Being a pro choice does not mean pro choice people want to force you to abort!!!!!

Jetboogieman · Dec 24, 2016

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JayDubya said:
Nope. Demonstrable lie.

Absolutely true.

It's a pretty small fraction of women who kill innocent human beings for their own selfish gain, but they belong in prison as much as any man does. Again, you lie.

So you do want to jail women for being women.

Good, then we're all agreed on where you stand.

Not just a lie, but insane. I'm pretty sure there is no God. Sex is fine.

How about we just don't kill other human beings in cold blood though? Seem fair enough?

I did mean to say that despite you not being religious, the legislation that you support and your allies in all this, are religious, big government statists that want to control women's lives.

Onward statist soldiers eh Jay!

LaylaWindu · Dec 24, 2016

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Medusa said:
Yes ,it was started for people like you

Well you got one thing right, I didn't read that post and couldn't even see it till you qouted it but I'm positive its full of lies attacks and nonsensical internet banter and not real life perspective. In the past the posts written by that person wouldn't be taken seriously in real life, they were dishonest, attacking, and completely counterproductive to civil rational adult conversation.

Medusa · Dec 24, 2016

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LaylaWindu said:
"Being a pro choice does not mean pro choice people want to force you to abort!!!!!"
That is 100% correct, just because you are pro-choice OF COURSE is does not mean you want to force people abort. Only an imbecile would claim otherwise. As a person, as a human being YOU get to define what it means for YOU and what your beliefs are. I am pro-life so me and you do not agree on this issue but you will NEVER catch me dishonestly telling you how you feel. That's how children talk not adults. I may never agree with your opinions but they are yours to have. As for the point of your thread, be careful it's close to being a post just like you are demeaning. It's not but it's close. Always be careful not to group all people together. Just like pro-choicers are different so are pro-lifers.

One another board I visit there's a guy there that always uses terms I used to ignore but now I'm putting more and more stock into them because of the huge differences of people IRL and people on the internet. Seems to be quit some difference between real life pro-lifers and pro-choicers and internet pro-lifers and pro-choicers. I have seen some people here on BOTH sides with views that I have NEVER come across in real life. I have been to countless events on this issues and currently belong to two different groups and some of the things I read online are NEVER spoken in real life or the few things that I have heard maybe similar nobody takes seriously and those people are part of the problem.

Back to the point if you ever want to have a discussion openly or privately let me know, it's what I do. We will never agree but I will not make up your opinions for you. I will also never lie but at the same time I will point out anything that is being discussed that is not true.

There are very reasonable pro lifers ,if you are one of them ,no problem layla

Henrin · Dec 24, 2016

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Medusa said:
There are very reasonable pro lifers ,if you are one of them ,no problem layla

Do you think believing abortion should be legal for so many weeks is a pro-life position?

WCH · Dec 24, 2016

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Medusa said:
you implied women may be stoned for aborting,the same thing is valid for rapists?

I don't believe in stoning anyone but, lots of people don't follow the law regardless the punishment.

LaylaWindu · Dec 24, 2016

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Crovax said:
That is a bunch of strawman bull****, no one wants to jail women.

In real life I agree, I have never encountered that but HERE, there have been at least two posters who talks that way and worse. So it's not a strawman at all as far as what people discuss here but it does go exactly to my point. It' a counter productive discussion because all it does is distract from real topics and discussion. IRL we talk about other things that are more important and honest.

Medusa · Dec 24, 2016

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Henrin said:
Do you think believing abortion should be legal for so many weeks is a pro-life position?

do you think I do ?

Jetboogieman · Dec 24, 2016

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Henrin said:
Did you now that some medical decisions that affect others directly are already illegal?

What? He supports jailing women for an action that they have a choice to make. How is that jailing women for being women again?

Ah, the other statist libertarian come to support and cheer on his fellow statist libertarian.

Henrin · Dec 24, 2016

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Medusa said:
do you think I do ?

No. Guess who believes that position and calls herself pro-life.

Medusa · Dec 24, 2016

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Henrin said:
No. Guess who believes that position and calls herself pro-life.

Many pro lifers oppose the idea that women should abort a rapist's baby,agree?

LaylaWindu · Dec 24, 2016

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Josie said:
The term "pro-choice" literally means you are for a woman's right to choose to end the life of her unborn child..... or not. No, that doesn't mean they are jumping for joy and applauding when an unborn child is killed. It just means they're okay with women having the right to end their baby's life if they so choose.

But most are only pro-choice up until viability of the fetus. After that, most people wouldn't support the woman's choice to abort because the baby could live without her.

This is decently accurate and civil. Some people may object to the wording but that's another thing that is a hurdle in the abortion debate/discussion. Regardless it's honest and can promote discussion and is a foundation of adult conversation. Good job!

Henrin · Dec 24, 2016

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Medusa said:
Many pro lifers oppose the idea that women should abort a rapist's baby,agree?

Yeah, so? Is it random question day?

LaylaWindu · Dec 24, 2016

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Abortion is about abortion, it's not about guns.

Medusa · Dec 24, 2016

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Henrin said:
Yeah, so? Is it random question day?

So rapists may be encouraged by this ****ty idea ?

LaylaWindu · Dec 24, 2016

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RamFel said:
Oh please! Just what do you mean by that? Pro-choice means exactly what it means, nothing more, nothing less. I am tired of being accused of supporting babies over women just because women have already been born, and "We should guard them from ill health because the baby is dead anyway". Yeah, because you had it killed so that in fact, there is no baby! One of the craziest stupidist arguments ever to come out of the mouths and brains of morons who ever were created by God!

Let's finally face the real facts. Abortions are baby-killing procedures designed only to do one thing. To get rid of a baby so that she (the mom) doesn't have to face the shame of the girl. Or another purpose, so that if she has unprotected sex, she can be freed from her "problem".

How many more babies do we need to kill in order to disprove yet another leftist dumb ass stupidity?

TRUMP should do whatever it takes to stomp abortion into the ground and out of existence!

THIS is a perfect example of a post that does not represent real life positions of life or choice. It's dishonest, laughable, attacking, uncivil, immature and ignorant of the many topic and relating topics. This is what I would call an internet position and not a real life or honest position. It's counterproductive to making positive gains and having civil honest discussion.

Henrin · Dec 24, 2016

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Medusa said:
So rapists may be encouraged by this ****ty idea ?

What? How?

LaylaWindu · Dec 24, 2016

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Medusa said:
There are very reasonable pro lifers ,if you are one of them ,no problem layla

There are many of us believe it or not. I love the work my groups do, it's all about outreach, information, alternatives and honest work towards restriction.

JayDubya · Dec 24, 2016

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Jetboogieman said:
Absolutely true.

So you do want to jail women for being women.

I mean it would be nice if you could ever refrain from lying. Or at least big, stupid, obvious lies. :shrug:

minnie616 · Dec 24, 2016

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WCH said:
On this eve of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, thank God Mary and Joseph chose to be pro-life.

God sent an angel to Mary to ask her permission before Mary became pregnant with Jesus.

WCH · Dec 24, 2016

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minnie616 said:
God sent an angel to Mary to ask her permission before Mary became pregnant with Jesus.

Luke 1:26-38New International Version (NIV)

The Birth of Jesus Foretold
26 In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”

29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”

35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[a] the Son of God. 36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be unable to conceive is in her sixth month. 37 For no word from God will ever fail.”

38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

If we opened our hearts to the Lord, maybe an angel would come to all those who are pregnant.

Medusa · Dec 24, 2016

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WCH said:
Luke 1:26-38New International Version (NIV)

The Birth of Jesus Foretold
26 In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”

29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”

35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[a] the Son of God. 36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be unable to conceive is in her sixth month. 37 For no word from God will ever fail.”

38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

If we opened our hearts to the Lord, maybe an angel would come to all those who are pregnant.

if that was true the orphanages would not be full of unwanted kids

calamity · Dec 24, 2016

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Medusa said:
Don't confuse pro choice people having empathy for the others with many pro lifers that want to put women into jail for deciding for themselves and many of you are smart enough to know what PRO CHOICE means.I dont always post in this forum because I see hundreds of stupidities posted in the name of 'unborn' babies.Many of these people dont care about 'born' babies !lets not try to talk people into believing respecting other people's choices means 'supporting' killing babies

Interesting choice for a thread on Christmas Eve

But, yeah. I agree with you on this. People who claim to be pro life are really just anti-choice. As post #2 proves.

calamity · Dec 24, 2016

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JayDubya said:
"Pro-choice" means pro-abort. You support the ongoing legality of killing innocent human beings because you stupidly believe they are inferior to you somehow since they are young. It is a bigoted position ignorant of scientific fact and disrespectful of the human rights of others.

I like how the utter retardation "don't care about born babies" is right in the OP this time and not the usual off-topic drivel being spewed. Newsflash, you have never seen an anti-abortion person say that it should be legal to kill born babies. You never will. I have seen pro-aborts take that stance.

It would be nice if sooner or later one of you would have the integrity and logical consistency to not use that insipid logical fallacy of conflating your socialist views and your pro-abort views, but history suggests this is unlikely.

For someone who would just assume let a born baby die than have the government step up and provide it even an ounce of assistance, your words ring hollow.

You must be the most discredited poster, claiming to be "pro-life," in the history of the DP Abortion forum.

Cardinal · Dec 24, 2016

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JayDubya said:
"Pro-choice" means pro-abort. You support the ongoing legality of killing innocent human beings because you stupidly believe they are inferior to you somehow since they are young. It is a bigoted position ignorant of scientific fact and disrespectful of the human rights of others.

I like how the utter retardation "don't care about born babies" is right in the OP this time and not the usual off-topic drivel being spewed. Newsflash, you have never seen an anti-abortion person say that it should be legal to kill born babies. You never will. I have seen pro-aborts take that stance.

It would be nice if sooner or later one of you would have the integrity and logical consistency to not use that insipid logical fallacy of conflating your socialist views and your pro-abort views, but history suggests this is unlikely.

Fletch said:
Do you support my 'right to choose' to blow other peoples brains out with a gun if I so choose? If not, why not?

Ah yes, I knew there was a reason I don't go into the abortion forum.

Medusa · Dec 24, 2016

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Cardinal said:
Ah yes, I knew there was a reason I don't go into the abortion forum.

We have to agree

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