Barr Says Justice Dept. Has Not Seen Evidence of Fraud That Would Undo Biden’s Win

[OpportunityCost]

What is it I did? What choice did I make you take? Lol, you chose these positions, I described them.

Lol, this is hilarious for a guy claiming those who dont vote for Trump arent real Americans.

You described Republicans in this thread as being in 2 groups, making it a false choice. I never claimed that about how someone votes. You should quit lying.

 

[Hatuey]

You described Republicans in this thread as being in 2 groups, making it a false choice. I never claimed that about how someone votes. You should quit lying.

Nope - I said right posters in this thread live in a wide asortment of conspiracy theories. Benghazi, Pizza joint, you name it, and that there are posters who dont believe in those things, and they arent participating and they are not here. If you can find a single right eing poster who doesnt believe in any of the theories of the Qsphere, you are more than welcome to point them out. I did not make any of you choose to believe these things, and then participate in the thread. Again, it is why it is a description, and not a dichotomy false or otherwise.

However that isn't what all your "Hatuey is a troll" complaints are about, are they? If you think they are trolling, then quit the talking my dude, and report it. Nothing else to discuss.

You arent confusing anyone not wearing a red hat with all this yabbering. I know the rules of this place.

Lol.

 

[MTAtech]

No sign of Reuben - sorry ReubenSherr - these past few days, wonder whatever became of him...

Trump lost, so he was sent to Siberia.

 

[dairyair]

They've offered a good deal of proof. As far as poll observers - that's where a lot of the issues lie. Probably the majority of the cases involve issues where observers were excluded from the process or flat not allowed to observe. In many cases, in a manner that was flat contradicted by state law (like Michigan). In Georgia they even said the building had a water leak, evacuated the building due to the 'emergency' (kicking out the observers), and kept counting. in other cases, observers were relegated to an area where they couldn't see anything, or a fraction of the number allocated was allowed. In other case they were told 'these were already counted'.

There absolutely should be (and in many cases are) provisions to allow both parties to observe the process. If someone doesn't show - shame on them. In this case, they weren't allowed to observe. That's a big issue. And yes, I would be upset if the situation was reversed. In fact, Democrats should be screaming about this too.

I doubt there's ever a case where the other party is NOT allowed to observe? What party would allow such a rule?

 

[Atomic Kid]

You smart off to me you get the same in return. Try to have a conversation you will get the same in return. You open with wise acre comments, Doc didn't.

Even Doc is having difficulty trying to figure out just what the hell it is you're talking about.

 

[Atomic Kid]

We're talking about different things.

Recount - actually, the recounts have found a number of issues, including missing memory sticks and votes. And while the overall result may have changed, there were many accuracy issues.

The issue here though is looking at the logs - evidence that they could have been altered, manipulated, votes inserted, changed, bypassed, gaps in the logs, votes entered faster than a human could, votes flipped, etc. It's actually pretty shocking, given the concerns raised, that some counties were actually considering wiping out the machines. And your explanation makes no sense with regards to disposal of mail in ballot envelopes when they are required by law to retain them.

I'll say. I'm talking about things grounded in reality and fact. You're not. No memory sticks or votes were missing. Just found to have have been previously submitted for counting. And that didn't have anything to do with the Dominion voting machines or it's software. That was just human errors of omission. Which always happens to some small degree in any endeavor in which human beings are involved. We aren't machines. We aren't perfect. The number of overlooked votes and that memory stick were far too small a number to have any chance of changing the results. And there weren't any real accuracy issues in recounts. In Georgia no individual county showed a variation in margin larger than 0.73%, and the variation in margin in 103 of the state’s 159 counties was less than 0.05%.

Also these claims that Dominion voting machine logs or votes can be somehow altered or manipulated have no basis in reality. Voting machine systems are, by design, meant to be used as closed systems that are not networked. It's technologically impossible to see votes being counted in real time and/or to 'flip' or change them. Also all Dominion systems use paper ballots or paper records for auditing.

There are also no incidents of poll watchers/observers being excluded or prohibited from observing the vote counting process. There were some places where because of the Covid outbreak where they were required to stay at least 6 feet away. But they never blocked from observing the process entirely. And each time this question has been raised in the courts Trump's lawyers have backed off on asserting those claims.

 

[HangLow]

I guess after the Official E.C. vote
Dumbass can stop all his NONSENSE???

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-Peace
TheLOW

 

[OpportunityCost]

Nope - I said right posters in this thread live in a wide asortment of conspiracy theories. Benghazi, Pizza joint, you name it, and that there are posters who dont believe in those things, and they arent participating and they are not here. If you can find a single right eing poster who doesnt believe in any of the theories of the Qsphere, you are more than welcome to point them out. I did not make any of you choose to believe these things, and then participate in the thread. Again, it is why it is a description, and not a dichotomy false or otherwise.

However that isn't what all your "Hatuey is a troll" complaints are about, are they? If you think they are trolling, then quit the talking my dude, and report it. Nothing else to discuss.

You arent confusing anyone not wearing a red hat with all this yabbering. I know the rules of this place.

Lol.

Again with the lie and the smear. I mean I guess it is easier to demonize people so its easier to dehumanize them. Its your stock and trade. You didn't address the voting lie. You also don't have to violate the rules here to be trolling. So you keep lying, its about the only thing you are good at anymore, you sure don't bring an weight to any conversations.

 

[pamak]

Election fraud has a LONG history in Illinois.

Is this the "evidence" you have for the 2020 federal election fraud you claim that it exists?
Please stay on topic and present evidence related to the topic.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Yes, it has been known that the Trump Administration has taken election security intensely seriously. The fact that Trump will never be satisfied with how secure elections are is probably a contributing factor to why they are so secure.

Have you kept up with the evidence presented to support election fraud? There is substantial evidence to support intentional tampering with both votes and with tabulations.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Trump is alleging massive, widespread voter fraud across the entire country and said he had proof.

Why is he losing in court and why are his lawyers saying to Judges that they are not alleging fraud?

Theyve now had a month, to produce ANY evidence of ANY kind of alleged widespread and massive voter fraud the likes of which would involve the effort of thousands with command and control apparatus to organize and.... They’ve produced Nothing.

As usual, you stand with liars, con artists, cheats, frauds, criminals, grifters and morons...

As you ALWAYS have.

Because they wear your political t shirt.

If you think they haven't produced evidence you haven't kept up or you refuse to acknowledge the evidence. Tech specialist, signed affidavits by whistleblowers, video tape of mystery ballots appearing and being counted after hours. Yes none of the officials who took part in the count have admitted a need to recount or investigate and only a couple of judges have ruled in favor to hold ballots or freeze voting machines for the time being, but then how many crooks condemn themselves. It will take a appeals court or the SCOTUS to eventually get to the bottom of it all.

 

[trouble13]

This makes no sense. I thought barr was a trump lacky? With all this new found respect for barr is there also new found credibility for his opinion about the mueller report too? I get dizzy trying to keep up with the progressive mental gymnastics

 

[Hatuey]

Again with the lie and the smear.

There is no lie if everyone I am talking about fits the description. Not to mention if it is a lie, then it cant be a false dichotomy because both choices actually have to exist in some sense.

I will give you one more shot at doing more than complain without basis that I am trolling. Show one person on your side of the argument in this thread who doesnt match the description I gave?

Lmao, your arguments got embarrassing quickly, and now you are trying to run around and intimidate posters will allegations that would be substantiated by you reporting their "trolling". However you aren't, so I'll keep elaborating: You fit the Benghazi type I was discussing, so you, and those ideologically like you, are here, in this thread with us.

We appreciate that.

 

[Cardinal]

Have you kept up with the evidence presented to support election fraud? There is substantial evidence to support intentional tampering with both votes and with tabulations.

Republicans insisting there’s evidence of election fraud is now the same as the 13 year old who swears he has a hot girlfriend but she’s in Canada so you’ve never met her.

 

[Cardinal]

This makes no sense. I thought barr was a trump lacky? With all this new found respect for barr is there also new found credibility for his opinion about the mueller report too? I get dizzy trying to keep up with the progressive mental gymnastics

Barr is a corrupt liar who drew a line in the sand, and that line was overturning a free and fair election.

I know it‘s odd because most trump lackies don’t have any line in the sand at all. When they sign up for trump’s corruption, they sign up for ALL of it.

 

[OpportunityCost]

There is no lie if everyone I am talking about fits the description. Not to mention if it is a lie, then it cant be a false dichotomy because both choices actually have to exist in some sense.

I will give you one more shot at doing more than complain without basis that I am trolling. Show one person on your side of the argument in this thread who doesnt match the description I gave?

Lmao, your arguments got embarrassing quickly, and now you are trying to run around and intimidate posters will allegations that would be substantiated by you reporting their "trolling". However you aren't, so I'll keep elaborating: You fit the Benghazi type I was discussing, so you, and those ideologically like you, are here, in this thread with us.

We appreciate that.

You started this bullshit. You lied about voting. You made up bullshit about what other people do or no not believe and then presume to tell those of us posting that we have to prove to your satisfaction that we do or do not believe those things.

No one gives a **** about who you think is what, you do not matter enough. You are just someone that pretended to be hardcore here and is cruising on your laurels, so quit pissing and moaning about intimidation, quit your damn lying about other posters and demonizing so you can look like a cool kid, you aren't.

 

[Torus34]

We have, perhaps, a means of measuring courage. It can be in the number of days members of the entourage of President of the United States of America Donald Trump are willing to lose by speaking the truth. As of today, that's 46 days for Attorney General William Barr, among others.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. Remember the prophylactic Big 3: masks, hand washing and physical distancing.

Reminder. I try to respond to all who quote my posts. If you do not get a response from me, it may be that you've made it onto my 'Ignore' list.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Have you kept up with the evidence presented to support election fraud? There is substantial evidence to support intentional tampering with both votes and with tabulations.

The examples I have followed up on have all been proven to be non issues once investigated. It's good that these investigations occur, for sure.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Have you kept up with the evidence presented to support election fraud? There is substantial evidence to support intentional tampering with both votes and with tabulations.

No there isn't.

 

[snakestretcher]

Lou Dobbs has already called Barr a member of the deep state.

This whole fiasco is almost as good as the Dick van Dyke Show, but Rudy's jokes are actually funnier.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Have you kept up with the evidence presented to support election fraud? There is substantial evidence to support intentional tampering with both votes and with tabulations.

Would better for you to try harder at keeping in touch with reality.

 

[OscarLevant]

This whole fiasco is almost as good as the Dick van Dyke Show, but Rudy's jokes are actually funnier.

I liked Bozo better. I guess I'm dating myself.

 

[dcsports]

I doubt there's ever a case where the other party is NOT allowed to observe? What party would allow such a rule?

There's not a rule, of course. However, in practice, it happened in numerous cases this election. It's definitely something that needs to be fixed - and stopped.

 

[dcsports]

I'll say. I'm talking about things grounded in reality and fact. You're not. No memory sticks or votes were missing. Just found to have have been previously submitted for counting. And that didn't have anything to do with the Dominion voting machines or it's software. That was just human errors of omission. Which always happens to some small degree in any endeavor in which human beings are involved. We aren't machines. We aren't perfect. The number of overlooked votes and that memory stick were far too small a number to have any chance of changing the results. And there weren't any real accuracy issues in recounts. In Georgia no individual county showed a variation in margin larger than 0.73%, and the variation in margin in 103 of the state’s 159 counties was less than 0.05%.

Also these claims that Dominion voting machine logs or votes can be somehow altered or manipulated have no basis in reality. Voting machine systems are, by design, meant to be used as closed systems that are not networked. It's technologically impossible to see votes being counted in real time and/or to 'flip' or change them. Also all Dominion systems use paper ballots or paper records for auditing.

There are also no incidents of poll watchers/observers being excluded or prohibited from observing the vote counting process. There were some places where because of the Covid outbreak where they were required to stay at least 6 feet away. But they never blocked from observing the process entirely. And each time this question has been raised in the courts Trump's lawyers have backed off on asserting those claims.

lol -- you may be listening to some talking points, but your comments are absolutely not 'grounded in reality and fact'. Almost a willful disregard for reality. Too much to go through, but I'll point out two that really stand out.

1) You are parroting a Dominion press release. The use of 'excessive' language is a red flag - words like 'impossible' and 'no basis in reality' often indicate a statement that's wrong. In particular here, they've used terms like 'can be audited' but they are resistant to do it.

2) Absolutely many incidents of poll watchers being excluded from the observation process, or located so that they could not see it.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Barr Says Justice Dept. Has Not Seen Evidence of Fraud That Would Undo Biden’s Win
Attorney General William P. Barr said Tuesday that the Justice Department has not uncovered voting fraud at a scale that could have affected the results of the presidential election, reaffirming Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s win despite President Trump’s groundless claims that he was defrauded.

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When Barr throws in the towel, that’s the end game.

So fraud is not important anymore, only the scale of fraud is. That sliding scale will be a great excuse in a court of law. It wasn't really rape rape.