Barack Obama - the Best Republican President Since Eisenhower!

[Kushinator]

hypocrite much?

Another poster made a 400+ word post that was entirely false. You are trolling me because i typically call you out for having a piss poor understanding of political economy.

You gotta try to keep up appearances i guess.

 

[Mycroft]

ARC -

Where did I say that Obama lowered state taxes? I never said that, so please stop claiming I did. I said that under Obama, our tax burden is lower than at any time since the early 1950's. If he had had his way, the wealthy - and only the wealthy - would have higher taxes. That was all he ever pushed for. And if you'll recall, ONE-THIRD of the stimulus was tax cuts - but those were included only because Obama wanted to get Republican votes.

hmmm...now where have I seen THAT kind of thing said before? Oh, yeah....It was me who said that Obama has been held to the center by the House Republicans.

Starting to change your tune? Ready to admit that Obama is truly a liberal? That the only thing that has stopped him from doing more liberal mayhem is the Republicans?

 

[ARealConservative]

Another poster made a 400+ word post that was entirely false. You are trolling me because i typically call you out for having a piss poor understanding of political economy.

You gotta try to keep up appearances i guess.

false. you came in and crapped over a 400+ post reply, then cried about trolling when someone treated you the same way.

 

[iguanaman]

So you will vote yourselves into economic collapse instead. Brilliant.

Why is that always the choice? Countries don't EVER need a recession.....unless the aim is to further increase the gap between rich and poor and weaken the middle class.
That's why every Republican President has had one in his first term, Bush had one in BOTH terms.

 

[davidtaylorjr]

Jesus.

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

You apparently haven't read the whole thread.

 

[Kushinator]

false. you came in and crapped over a 400+ post reply, then cried about trolling when someone treated you the same way.

The dude made **** up, and i called him out on it. End of story. Besides, it had nothing to do with you whatsoever.

 

[ARealConservative]

The dude made **** up, and i called him out on it. End of story. Besides, it had nothing to do with you whatsoever.

if it was so easy to attack, you shouldn't of trolled it like you did, then cried when you were treated the same way. are you 12 or something?

 

[Kushinator]

if it was so easy to attack, you shouldn't of trolled it like you did, then cried when you were treated the same way. are you 12 or something?

The guy made up all that nonsense. Notice how he failed to supply any bit of support for his position. Your perception of me trolling his post does not require you to continue to actually troll me. You are not his mother.

If you feel so strongly about the post in reference, then by all means provide some support for it (of course you cannot, and will continue to rattle on).

 

[ARealConservative]

The guy made up all that nonsense. Notice how he failed to supply any bit of support for his position. Your perception of me trolling his post does not require you to continue to actually troll me. You are not his mother.

If you feel so strongly about the post in reference, then by all means provide some support for it (of course you cannot, and will continue to rattle on).

this thread is based on made up nonsense. pick your poison

 

[calamity]

The guy made up all that nonsense. Notice how he failed to supply any bit of support for his position. Your perception of me trolling his post does not require you to continue to actually troll me. You are not his mother.

If you feel so strongly about the post in reference, then by all means provide some support for it (of course you cannot, and will continue to rattle on).

Conservatives always make **** up. How else would they keep that "Obama is a Marxist Socialist" nonsense alive?

 

[ARealConservative]

Conservatives always make **** up. How else would they keep that "Obama is a Marxist Socialist" nonsense alive?

checks thread title.

backs out of thread.

 

[calamity]

this thread is based on made up nonsense. pick your poison

Most of your posts are made up nonsense. Repeatedly you'd be asked, in multiple threads, to substantiate an assertion with a credible source, to which you respond by simply asserting more unsubstantiated nonsense.

 

[Kushinator]

Most of your posts are made up nonsense. Repeatedly you'd be asked, in multiple threads, to substantiate an assertion with a credible source, to which you respond by simply asserting more unsubstantiated nonsense.

It is the standard response by fake libertarians.

 

[KLATTU]

Unde
8. Bush gave up on Osama bin Laden - President Obama didn't.

9. !

Nobody ever gave up on Bin Laden. That's pretty clear from statements made by the folks who actually did the work of finding and catching him.
What is also clear is that the key information in finding him was obtained by Enhanced Interrogation, which Obama and the left have done nothing but disparage.
If it was solely up to Obama and the left, those techniques would never have been used and Bin Laden would still be out there.
Remember that.

 

[ARealConservative]

Most of your posts are made up nonsense. Repeatedly you'd be asked, in multiple threads, to substantiate an assertion with a credible source, to which you respond by simply asserting more unsubstantiated nonsense.

false. link to such a thread.

 

[calamity]

false. link to such a thread.

No need, we have this one, with your two-dozen posts, showing exactly what I mean in all its glory.

 

[ARealConservative]

lmao. get a load of these clowns.


calamity ~ you'd be asked, in multiple threads, to substantiate an assertion with a credible source, to which you respond by simply asserting more unsubstantiated nonsense.

me ~ link please

calamity ~ no need

 

[OpportunityCost]

Under President Obama:

1. We pay less of a percentage of our personal income in federal taxes since any time since 1950.

Taxes are low because the economy is in the ****ter..Whoopee.

2. Taxes are lower for the middle class now than when he took office.

And Obamacare is about to drop a $1 trillion atom bomb on those "lower taxes"

3. Politifact says that Obama's statement that "taxes are lower now for CEO's and hedge fund managers than at any time since the 1950's" is 'mostly true'.

But he has nothing to do with that, he WANTS them to be higher.

4. The Dow Jones has more than doubled since its nadir a couple months after President Obama took office.

And as soon as they announced they were going to stop printing it dropped 300points in 1 day. Its being propped up with the printing press and artificially low lending rates.

5. President Obama got 'Obamacare' passed - and it was a REPUBLICAN idea pushed by the Heritage Foundation and Newt Gingrich until somebody with a (D) behind his name was able to get it passed.

There have been a lot of position papers and ideas passed around regarding health care---the problem with the bill that was passed was that it will not correct a lot of the problems and it will make others worse, all while limiting choices on health care plans.

6. President Obama will likely get immigration reform passed - and in a form that is much more conservative than Reagan's amnesty.

Because the immigration issue isnt different at all now than it was 40 years ago. My lord what lying propaganda.

7. President Obama has deported more immigrants than any other president.

...we have more coming in than ever before, is this really even relevant?

8. Bush gave up on Osama bin Laden - President Obama didn't.

I really dont think the phrase "gave up" is even close to the truth. But dont let lying slow you down.

9. AND Obama was able to get almost all of the above done despite the fact that he's had to deal with the most obstructive Congress since the Civil War!

He had 2 years with ALL of the control. His own party had the reins in both houses. Why didnt he pass immigration reform, financial reform, and all the other things you liberals say are so vital back when he could with no opposition?

If only Barack Hussein Obama had an (R) behind his name, he'd be called the Second Coming of Reagan by our nation's Republicans!

Keep telling yourself that, if you believed this pile of crap you can probably believe anything.

 

[calamity]

lmao. get a load of these clowns.


calamity ~ you'd be asked, in multiple threads, to substantiate an assertion with a credible source, to which you respond by simply asserting more unsubstantiated nonsense.

me ~ link please

calamity ~ no need

Right because your nonsense is all over this thread.

 

[ARealConservative]

Right because your nonsense is all over this thread.

then you will have no problem showing an example of me failing to provide an assertion. show who asked for it, and show me ignoring it.

 

[calamity]

then you will have no problem showing an example of me failing to provide an assertion. show who asked for it, and show me ignoring it.

Sure.

Here's your first post.

it works in both directions. the left on this forum often list Reagan as one of the worst politicians ever. Yet, as you pointed out, Obama isn't much different. So how do liberals reconcile this?

Assertion made with nothing backing it up. In fact, there is not one citation in any of your 30 posts, just endless lines of crap pulled out of your ass.

 

[ARealConservative]

Sure.

Here's your first post.

Assertion made with nothing backing it up. In fact, there is not one citation in any of your 30 posts, just endless lines of crap pulled out of your ass.

show where I was asked to back it up.

the person I replied to readily agreed this goes on by both sides.

 

[calamity]

show where I was asked to back it up.

the person I replied to readily agreed this goes on by both sides.

Fine. Back it up, specifically the nonsense about "the Left" calling Reagan the worst politician ever. You made that crap up. Just like everything else said in this thread.

 

[ARealConservative]

Fine. Back it up, specifically the nonsense about "the Left" calling Reagan the worst politician ever. You made that crap up. Just like everything else said in this thread.

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[Glen Contrarian]

Nobody ever gave up on Bin Laden. That's pretty clear from statements made by the folks who actually did the work of finding and catching him.
What is also clear is that the key information in finding him was obtained by Enhanced Interrogation, which Obama and the left have done nothing but disparage.
If it was solely up to Obama and the left, those techniques would never have been used and Bin Laden would still be out there.
Remember that.

Gee, those who were actually involved in the investigation said that no, 'enhanced interrogation' was NOT an effective factor in finding bin Laden.

Guy, there was a time when America's very future was in doubt. Troops went to the man in charge because they wanted to torture the 'truth' out of their prisoners in order to not lose the war. Here was their commander's reply:

“Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause… for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country.”

You may have heard of that commander - his name was George Washington, and yes, America's future was still very much in doubt, in infinitely greater danger of defeat than anything Osama bin Laden could have dreamed. And yet he still forbade torture.

Back in the mid 2000's, two dozen men who were tasked with interrogating German prisoners of war came out as a group against Bush's torture, and said they could get higher quality intelligence from a prisoner with a game of chess than all the waterboarding ever could, because once those hardline Nazis figured out that their enemy wasn't as evil and horrible as Hitler had told them, they sang like birds:

"We got more information out of a German general with a game of chess or Ping-Pong than they do today, with their torture," said Henry Kolm, 90, an MIT physicist who had been assigned to play chess in Germany with Hitler's deputy, Rudolf Hess.

And any military historian worth his salt will tell you that intelligence was probably the single greatest single factor - other than perhaps Hitler's hubris - in the allied victory over the axis.

So you can listen to your right-wing buddies about torture...or you can listen to the men of the greatest generation who dealt with the Nazis, and you can listen to George Washington. Your choice.