Bad day for the leftist (1 Viewer)

[Stinger]

We capture the second in command for Al qaeda in Iraq (oh I forgot there are not terrorist there) and over 200 Taliban met their deaths in Afghanistan (oh I forgot we are ignoring them).

Good news is bad news for the left.

 

[PeteEU]

He was not second in command.... thats media and Bush administration spin. He was however a higher level terrorist.

 

[jfuh]

We capture the second in command for Al qaeda in Iraq (oh I forgot there are not terrorist there) and over 200 Taliban met their deaths in Afghanistan (oh I forgot we are ignoring them).

Good news is bad news for the left.

1. source?
2. why is this bad news for those of us that are on the left?
3. Where's OBL?

 

[Stinger]

1. source?
2. why is this bad news for those of us that are on the left?
3. Where's OBL?

1. Spare me
2. They are both successes
3. Notice how you must post something you think a failure to offset the success. Didn't even bother to acknowledge our success, got to bring up something we have, so far, failed to do. How telling.

You guys just can't stand it.

 

[Stinger]

He was not second in command.... thats media and Bush administration spin. He was however a higher level terrorist.

By ELENA BECATOROS, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 49 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Authorities on Sunday announced the capture of al-Qaida in Iraq's No. 2 leader, accusing him of "brutal and merciless" terror operations, including the bombing of a Shiite shrine that touched off the sectarian pushing Iraq toward civil war.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060903/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_060903184020bloodletting







Along with every other report. I stand by the what I posted until evidence is presented otherwise.

 

[niftydrifty]

We capture the second in command for Al qaeda in Iraq (oh I forgot there are not terrorist there) and over 200 Taliban met their deaths in Afghanistan (oh I forgot we are ignoring them).

Good news is bad news for the left.

Hahahaha. Stinker, you are hilarious.

"We capture..." Well, in the world I live in, "we" includes left, right, middle, etc. I realize that you extremists need to demonize others in order to thrive.

Who ever said there are not terrorists in Iraq. I believe the 'leftist line' is that they are there NOW.

And who says we are ignoring the Taliban?

If you're still wondering what a strawman argument is, you just made one.

:roll:

 

[jfuh]

1. Spare me

So no source?

2. They are both successes

and this is bad for us on the left because?

3. Notice how you must post something you think a failure to offset the success. Didn't even bother to acknowledge our success, got to bring up something we have, so far, failed to do. How telling.
You guys just can't stand it.

Can't stand what? You don't have a source for this. And the source you gave in the later post went to a blank page. Sorry but there is very few that you say that I find believable, given your record of apologetics and attacks against liberals and leftist - ie title of this thread.

 

[PeteEU]

By ELENA BECATOROS, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 49 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Authorities on Sunday announced the capture of al-Qaida in Iraq's No. 2 leader, accusing him of "brutal and merciless" terror operations, including the bombing of a Shiite shrine that touched off the sectarian pushing Iraq toward civil war.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060903/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_060903184020bloodletting

Along with every other report. I stand by the what I posted until evidence is presented otherwise.

Who reported him as nr. 2? The Iraqi goverment spokesman. The US military refuse to put a number on him but agree as I have stated that hw was an important capture.

But a United States military official was more cautious in describing Mr. Saeedi’s place in the organization’s pecking order. While he was a “top-tier guy” who supervised those who carried out the Samarra bombing, “I’m not sure we are ready to put a number on him,” said the American official, who agreed to speak only without being identified because Iraqi officials had been designated to announce the capture. “It’s a very decentralized operation,” the official said.

From http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/03/w...779f8a08&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=slogin

Yes its New York Times, the so called anit Bush, anti war, anti conservative, liberal bla bla, but the point is made. All the other news organisations have a standard AP (or Reuters or AFP) text, so of course they are similar.

Also it was offically the Iraqies that caught him, not "we" as in the US.

 

[Tashah]

Associated Press
No. 2 al-Qaida Leader in Iraq Arrested
By ELENA BECATOROS - 09.03.2006

Iraq's national security advisor - Mouwafak al-Rubaie - said Hamed Jumaa Farid al-Saeedi, known as Abu Humam or Abu Rana, was arrested a few days ago as he hid in a residential building southwest of Baqouba.

Not much is known about al-Saeedi, but al-Rubaie said he was the second most important al-Qaida in Iraq leader after Abu Ayyub al-Masri. Al-Masri is believed to have taken over the group after a U.S. air strike killed leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi north of Baghdad on June 7.

A senior coalition official told The Associated Press that coalition forces were involved in al-Saeedi's arrest, but would not give details on what role they played.

No. 2 al-Qaida Leader in Iraq Arrested - accessed on 9.4.06

 

[tecoyah]

Any Good News at this point is welcome,but does little to change the overall picture seen daily in Iraq. I can celebrate this success, yet continue to worry about the War. If this were some sort of Turning point battle in the ongoing war we must deal with I would be amongst the first to throw a party.....sadly its not.

 

[Joby]

We capture the second in command for Al qaeda in Iraq (oh I forgot there are not terrorist there) and over 200 Taliban met their deaths in Afghanistan (oh I forgot we are ignoring them).

Good news is bad news for the left.

Great news for every american

Are the Kurdish Speratists only bad news for the right?

 

[Hoot]

General: "We just captured the number two leader of Al Qaeda!"

Reporter: "Who's considered the number one leader of Al Qaeda?"

General: "Well, that would have to be Osama bin Laden."

Reporter: "And who's the number two leader of Al Qaeda again?"

General: "Well...anyone we capture who is not Osama bin Laden."

 

[Stinger]

So no source?

No, jfuh, I made it all up.

Spare me.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

General: "We just captured the number two leader of Al Qaeda!"

Reporter: "Who's considered the number one leader of Al Qaeda?"

General: "Well, that would have to be Osama bin Laden."

Reporter: "And who's the number two leader of Al Qaeda again?"

General: "Well...anyone we capture who is not Osama bin Laden."

I believe he said the 2nd in command of Al-Qaeda in Iraq, Zawahiri is 2nd in command of the overall AQ.

 

[jfuh]

No, jfuh, I made it all up.

Spare me.

Well since you admit to making it all up, then there's nothing to talk about.

 

[Doremus Jessup]

Your choice of a title for this thread is pretty sad.

 

[Stinger]

Your choice of a title for this thread is pretty sad.

Sorry if you hate a does of reality.

 

[Stinger]

Originally Posted by Stinger
No, jfuh, I made it all up.

Spare me.

Well since you admit to making it all up, then there's nothing to talk about.

Since you were so totally unaware of this widely reported story you are correct, there was nothing to talk about with you. When you get up to speed maybe we can continue.

 

[niftydrifty]

Sorry if you hate a does of reality.

Can you name a single "leftist" that has said they don't want any terrorists to be captured? Post the quote here.

Yes, your thread title is sad.

 

[faithful_servant]

Can you name a single "leftist" that has said they don't want any terrorists to be captured? Post the quote here.

Yes, your thread title is sad.

His point is that the left seems to revel in the bad news and every time good news from Iraq is presented, the left will find a way to minimize it. I can prove this very easily.

 

[niftydrifty]

His point is that the left seems to revel in the bad news and every time good news from Iraq is presented, the left will find a way to minimize it. I can prove this very easily.

Go for it. The key word in your post is "seems." It seems that way, to you. No, the left doesn't in fact revel in bad news from Iraq. The left, the middle, and some of the right, are, in fact, disappointed by the poor leadership at the top, in regards to Iraq.

The negative developments in Iraq confirm it. Therefore, the left doesn't in fact, revel in bad news from Iraq.

If it seems that way to you and to Stinger, well, ... you can just talk about how stuff seems to you all you want.

The war is in fact, not going very well. If I even so much as mention this fact, you'd no doubt call that "minimizing" this one piece of news. All I can say is welcome to reality.

faithful_servant and Stinger are confused. Guys, tell me how this incident proves "the left" are wrong? Tell me how this one incident shows that the President/Cheney/Rumsfeld/etc are correct? How is this a "bad day for the leftist [sic]?"

 

[jfuh]

Since you were so totally unaware of this widely reported story you are correct, there was nothing to talk about with you. When you get up to speed maybe we can continue.

Yet you still refuse to post a source. I don't care if it's widely known or not, you make the argument, post a source for it. Dont' have other's doing your work for you. Yet you still fail to make any arugument as to why "this is a bad day for the leftist".

 

[ProudAmerican]

Yet you still refuse to post a source. I don't care if it's widely known or not, you make the argument, post a source for it. Dont' have other's doing your work for you. Yet you still fail to make any arugument as to why "this is a bad day for the leftist".

come on. its a bad day because we are capturing the very people many on the left claim arent in Iraq to begin with.

"Iraq has nothing to do with 9-11"

well, except for the fact that we are killing and capturing al queda members and leaders on a regular basis.

thats all.

 

[Stinger]

Yet you still refuse to post a source. I don't care if it's widely known or not, you make the argument, post a source for it. Dont' have other's doing your work for you. Yet you still fail to make any arugument as to why "this is a bad day for the leftist".

I am more than happy to let it stand that you came here and argued an opposing viewpoint without even having knowledge of the subject, shows the lack of credibility you post have.

 

[Stinger]

His point is that the left seems to revel in the bad news and every time good news from Iraq is presented, the left will find a way to minimize it. I can prove this very easily.

This thread proves it and proves, like jfuh, they don't even keep aware of what is going on. Do you believe he's harping about a source for this story that was the lead story on every broadcast and the frontpage of every newspaper I read when it happened. And he STILL doesn't believe it is true. Amazing.