$180,000 for 12 years of education is not really that much. Beverly Hills spends 22,000 per year per student, for a total of $264, 000 and they don't have even a fraction of hurdles to overcome that detroit schools do.So $180,000 isn't enough money for the government to teach a kid to read. You believe there needs to be much greater spending, before we should expect any results, correct?
I presume you don't have kids, or have kids that went to a private school and have no clue about public education?Which is why I support school vouchers and school choice. Send your kids to government schools where they'll end up flipping burgers and spouting nonsense or send them to private schools with the help of vouchers to at least give them a fighting chance.
I presume you don't have kids, or have kids that went to a private school and have no clue about public education?
Stupid on so many levels."Separation of church and state" is not in the constitution. If the government funds all kinds of religious schools then it would not violate the establishment clause. It says "In God We Trust" on US bills, and there are daily prayers in both the senate and house.
Yes, and they shouldn't have to.
It is absolutely not in the interest of a person with no kids to pay to educate other people's kids. Basically you are saying "the common interest before self-interest" which is collectivist Nazi vomit.
"Separation of church and state" is not in the constitution. If the government funds all kinds of religious schools then it would not violate the establishment clause. It says "In God We Trust" on US bills, and there are daily prayers in both the senate and house.
Yes, and they shouldn't have to
Holy crap. Is it past your bed time?It is absolutely not in the interest of a person with no kids to pay to educate other people's kids. Basically you are saying "the common interest before self-interest" which is collectivist Nazi vomit.
There was Camden, NJ which dissolved its police force and started over with pretty good results. This was way back in 2013, and was done to end all sorts of corruption which included police planting evidence on people.Your grandmother wasn't allowed to open a bank account without her husband's permission.
Couldn't tell you because the police have not been defunded.
The US spends more than any other country on just about everything.You can pump money into some of these schools until every cent is spent and there would be no real improvement.
A kids education is something that takes parents, preferably two of them, who are paying into the tax base and involved in their childs school and daily education.
The US already spends more than any other country on education per pupil, unless that has changed.
You're hilarious.Biased fact checkers mean nothing.
Nah. Just use better sources and think.They may have have jumped the gun. I will wait and see.
But from the report it's not even clear that hiring teachers is the issue. Presumably Catholic schools are allowed to require that teachers be practising Catholics.
This report seems to be deliberately misleading.
Claiming everything you don't like is biased, without checking yourself, is putting your head in the sand.Biased fact checkers mean nothing.
We have tried for profit private (charter) schools and they have been an unmitigated disaster of corruption and inefficacy because that for-profit wants to create more profit with zero accountability.Government run schools produce educated adults in every country that out-performs the US on PISA scores. Just because you can't do something doesn't mean it can't be done.
Are you saying they should forbid catholic teaching on this?
$180,000 for 12 years of education is not really that much.
Beverly Hills spends 22,000 per year per student, for a total of $264, 000 and they don't have even a fraction of hurdles to overcome that detroit schools do.
It is a fact that what we are doing in Detroit isn't working.
Investment needs to be made not just in education but in helping solve other problems that hinder learning as well.
Keeping religion out of the classroom of a non-secular school, based in religious principles is not a winning argument in a country that counts Freedom of Religious as one of its bedrock principles.Religion should be kept out of the classroom. Why should it matter who is doing the teaching?
Enormous permanent underclasses are the norm throughout history and around the world.My guess is there are similar results in every liberal shithole city across the country. Government-run schools are creating an enormous, permanent, underclass, and you're fine with it, as long as they continue to vote Democrat.
Keeping religion out of the classroom of a non-secular school, based in religious principles is not a winning argument in a country that counts Freedom of Religious as one of its bedrock principles.
If you can teach Sunday school for example, you can teach religious principles Monday through Saturday in a school based on religious principles.
This is sort of a neat thread. Its a good example for how close the Far Left and the Far Right are to each other.
Ah-huh...ready to take up arms.....start a civil war over it. It is what it is. If you don't like it I would recommend a different country. You are not going to male any headway here with that argument.We had long ago learned the folly of religions and that mistake by our founders .
Secularity isn't the absence of religion. It's the prohibition of state investment in and encouragement of doctrine and creed. In the case of parochial schools, the problem isn't necessarily tax contributions, but rather the receipt of those subsidies but a non-compliance with their conditions. They could just refuse the lucre.Then it's only fair that the government pay for religious schools.
You can't have it both ways. If atheists don't want to pay for religious schools, then Christians shouldn't have to pay for secular schools.
Ah-huh...ready to take up arms.....start a civil war over it. It is what it is. If you don't like it I would recommend a different country. You are not going to male any headway here with that argument.
And this is coming from me...the guy that left organized religion, Catholicism and is never going back to any organized religion.
The case identified in the OP is clearly going to go through the Appellate Court and up to the SC.Secularity isn't the absence of religion. It's the prohibition of state investment in and encouragement of doctrine and creed. In the case of parochial schools, the problem isn't necessarily tax contributions, but rather the receipt of those subsidies but a non-compliance with their conditions. They could just refuse the lucre.
But, I expect even radcappers could figure that bit out.
Good luck......don't expect me to join you one the battlements for your crusade.We need to admit our mistakes and get religion in the closet where it belongs.
I don't see any issues in the report cited in the original post that relates to church teachings. Do you?No. Its against church teachings. In theory, someone gay could be good to go but they would have to be celibate. I don't think the issue is that the school requires "practicing catholics". The issue is that "gender identity" as it is known today and homosexuality are against church teachings. They're telling parents that their kids will be taught in an environment in alignment with the Church. These aren't minor or loosely held beliefs so courts will have to decide if the change in the civil rights law in MI is a violation of the 1st amendment in this case.
Perhaps it's been asked already, but please cite me the part of the law in question where it requires that the school not teach catholic doctrine. Please be specific. The devil is in the details when you preemptively file suit, or more specifically, when some far right christian group hires attorneys to file suit preemptively on your behalf.'Cease teaching and practicing the Catholic faith or close its doors forever': Catholic school's lawsuit against Michigan officials states sexual orientation, gender identity law violates religious beliefs | Blaze Media
A Catholic school in Michigan filed a federal lawsuit on Thursday against state officials over sexual orientation and gender identity laws recently incorporated into the state's Civil Rights Act, the Daily Caller News Foundation reported.The Sacred Heart of Jesus Parish Catholic school and three...www.theblaze.com
New law requires they not teach catholic doctrine in a private school.
The case identified in the OP is clearly going to go through the Appellate Court and up to the SC.
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