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I "mentioned slavery" as it related to whether or not there are any known words from the person known as Jesus of Nazareth (if he existed or not) concerning slavery. It was a very short statement on that one matter. To attempt to conflate that with me 'supporting' slavery does seem to be a bit of a stretch, an attempt to defend one (perhaps never was) person for their failure to talk about slavery by making an accusation against me based on a rather weak attempt at comparison of statements or non-statements as it were. My one sentence is somehow to be considered equal to all of the words attributed to the man known as Jesus - interesting.
I agree - read the damn(ed) book
Where in the New Testament is Jesus quoted as saying anything about homosexuality, either negative or positive?
Where in the New Testament does Jesus say anything about slavery and whether was he for it or against?
In many circles, silence, when confronted with evil indicates support.
They're counting charitable donations.
Every study has their drawbacks and it's important to look at that but I get the feeling that you don't really care about anything they say unless it paints religious (or maybe just christian) people in a bad light.
Which would leave 2/3 given by... what?
Second wealthiest, but yes, I'm aware. The fact remains, the richest people tend to be non-religious and also tend to give far more money away than the religious.
It used Christianity when it brought in more donations, now that it no longer does so, it dropped the name.
I have, thanks. That's why I'm no longer a Christian.
Jesus doesn't mention homosexuality directly, positively or negatively. He does, however, emphasize that nothing in the Old Testament, and that includes prohibitions against homosexuality, stops applying.
There are several passages in the New Testament that support slavery.
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5)
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2)
Jesus gives a parable where he clearly approves of punishing slaves even if they weren't aware they were doing anything wrong.
The slave will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48)
And if he had been silent, if he hadn't confirmed that Old Testament prohibitions were still in place, you might have a point. Too bad he did.
An agnostic atheist is like a Gay Republican. We all know they exist, however the two terms are contradictory. Atheism is the position that there is no such thing as supernatural activity a-la gods, fairies, elves etc. Theism is the position that those things do exist. Agnostics claim the position of 'I don't know'. That said, you can't say you don't know, and then somehow support the ONE atheistic claim that those things don't exist. You're simply an agnostic, a theist or an atheist.
They're counting money given directly to churches and thrown in collection plates, which may or may not be used charitably and may be used for church maintenance which is not charity. Because they do not factor out the money that is not used charitably, it's already a skewed study. You just keep using it because it's skewed your direction.
No, I expect a fair and equitable study that relies on facts. When it is so absurdly easy to find faults with the study, to point out where they went wrong, I must reject the study for faulty metrics, not for it's conclusion.
How is that skewed in my favor? I provided a couple of different studies, one of them gets much of it's info from the IRS but even without the tithing they still came to the conclusion that the religious give more and they give more to secular charities than the secular folk do.
Every study I have seen comes to the same overall conclusion that the religious and red states give more to charities.
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