'At the limit,' Mexico buckles under migrant surge to U.S.

[MickeyW]

TAPACHULA, Mexico/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Mexico is struggling to stem the flow of Central American migrants traveling to the United States ahead of the U.S. presidential election, causing major concern in Washington, which is weighing sending more agents to help.

In 2014, Mexico moved to strengthen its southern border when a surge in child migrants from Central America sparked a political crisis in the United States.

Last year, Mexico detained over 190,000 migrants, more than double the number in 2012.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/limit-mexico-buckles-under-migrant-surge-u-154033655.html

 

[chuckiechan]

Hillary has all but publically said that she is going to grant amnesty to all illegals who are here. Can you blame them?

Free stuff and good jobs for the good ones, and a huge new market for the Hispanic criminal cartels.

It's a win-win for the democrats.

 

[Moot]

This whole subject makes ill. If anyone deserves refugee status it's those children trying to flee from the gang violence that the US helped to create.

 

[cpwill]

This whole subject makes ill. If anyone deserves refugee status it's those children trying to flee from the gang violence that the US helped to create.

That the US helped create? That's crazy talk.

 

[azgreg]

I hear they want to build a fence along their Southern border. Maybe they can get Guatemala to pay for it.

 

[Moot]

That the US helped create? That's crazy talk.

No, I'm talking about Iran-Contra, CIA and NAFTA.

 

[clownboy]

Perhaps if Mexico did not encourage the Coyotajes, the human smugglers, they wouldn't have the problem of everyone coming to their nation to be smuggled into the US.

 

[cpwill]

No, I'm talking about Iran-Contra, CIA and NAFTA.

......so, three decades ago. That's your argument.

Sending the cartels automatic weapons five years ago, not so much.

Okedokek.

 

[Moot]

......so, three decades ago. That's your argument.

Sending the cartels automatic weapons five years ago, not so much.

Okedokek.

Do you think the cartels just appeared out of thin air? These things don't just happen over night.

 

[11Bravo]

This whole subject makes ill. If anyone deserves refugee status it's those children trying to flee from the gang violence that the US helped to create.

Of course. Every dangerous city in the country is run by liberal policies and has been for decades. These poor children in LA, New York City, Compton, Detroit, Baltimore, DC (a province), Chicago...die at the hands of liberal policies :-(

 

[cpwill]

Do you think the cartels just appeared out of thin air? These things don't just happen over night.

Nope. Modern levels of violence in Honduras, however, are not a product of NAFTA or Iran Contra.

 

[legalimmigrant]

This whole subject makes ill. If anyone deserves refugee status it's those children trying to flee from the gang violence that the US helped to create.

Nobody deserves nothing. This garbage can is full.

 

[americanwoman]

Nobody deserves nothing. This garbage can is full.

Considering you immigrated here, you must think the garbage can was full of promises of a better life.

 

[Moot]

Nope. Modern levels of violence in Honduras, however, are not a product of NAFTA or Iran Contra.

I beg to differ.

US involvement in Central America is at the core of almost everything that is occurring there today. From the assassinations, the over throw of governments, the civil wars, US funded gorillas, free trade agreements, etc, etc, etc. The ATF scandal is a mere by product of what occurred before.

 

[Tigerace117]

I beg to differ.

US involvement in Central America is at the core of almost everything that is occurring there today. From the assassinations, the over throw of governments, the civil wars, US funded gorillas, free trade agreements, etc, etc, etc. The ATF scandal is a mere by product of what occurred before.

We have a trained gorilla army? Awesome

In all seriousness Central America was a mess during the Cold War. We were involved with some unsavory types, but the Sandinistas weren't exactly saints either.

 

[Moot]

We have a trained gorilla army? Awesome

In all seriousness Central America was a mess during the Cold War. We were involved with some unsavory types, but the Sandinistas weren't exactly saints either.

If Central America wasn't a mess before, it sure as hell was after Reagan got through with it. The over throw of democratically governments, US funded assassination squads....and all just so the US could have cheap bananas all year round. Oh and lets not forget the assassination of the nuns by the US funded and trained El Salvador government military.

Those civil wars in Central America were caused by US involvement and entire generations grew up in a war zone. Those that weren't killed migrated to the US....only to end up US prisons where they learned how to be gang members...then get deported back their war torn impoverished countries with their new found gang culture....that they learned in the US.

 

[Tigerace117]

If Central America wasn't a mess before, it sure as hell was after Reagan got through with it. The over throw of democratically governments, US funded assassination squads....and all just so the US could have cheap bananas all year round. Oh and lets not forget the assassination of the nuns by the US funded and trained El Salvador government military.

Those civil wars in Central America were caused by US involvement and entire generations grew up in a war zone. Those that weren't killed migrated to the US....only to end up US prisons where they learned how to be gang members...then get deported back their war torn impoverished countries with their new found gang culture....that they learned in the US.

Uh.....no, they weren't "caused by American involvement". The United States backed a number of Central American governments against communist rebels. There were plenty of coups. The Cubans were heavily involved throughout the region trying to export the revolution.

To quote my copy of A Quick and Dirty Guide To War

"The change will only succeed if there is peace. But with the automatic rifles and grenade launchers still at hand, the uneasy pistoleros(gunmen) in from the hills, the Red fascists with "their people" still in the Army and the police, the right wing militarists with death squads in the back room and tattered economies controlled by a wealthy elite and corrupt beaucracy, peace in the Central American backwater remains a ragged, distant prospect".

 

[cpwill]

I beg to differ.

US involvement in Central America is at the core of almost everything that is occurring there today. From the assassinations, the over throw of governments, the civil wars, US funded gorillas, free trade agreements, etc, etc, etc. The ATF scandal is a mere by product of what occurred before.

People think this way.

Okedoke, how many times did the US overthrow the government of Honduras?

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[Moot]

Uh.....no, they weren't "caused by American involvement". The United States backed a number of Central American governments against communist rebels. There were plenty of coups. The Cubans were heavily involved throughout the region trying to export the revolution.

To quote my copy of A Quick and Dirty Guide To War

"The change will only succeed if there is peace. But with the automatic rifles and grenade launchers still at hand, the uneasy pistoleros(gunmen) in from the hills, the Red fascists with "their people" still in the Army and the police, the right wing militarists with death squads in the back room and tattered economies controlled by a wealthy elite and corrupt beaucracy, peace in the Central American backwater remains a ragged, distant prospect".

Yes, indeed....the US supported and help train and arm right wing, fascist, dictator, authoritarian, militarized governments. And you think that brings peace?

See the list....it's looooong....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_United_States



The US had a little plan...whose "fair trade" was hard to swallow

And everywhere the US went...war was soon to follow.

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes, indeed....the US supported and help train right wing, fascist dictator authoritarian governments. And you think that brings peace?

See the list....it's looooong....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_United_States



The US had a little plan...whose "fair trade" was hard to swallow

And everywhere the US went...war was soon to follow.

Thats funny, considering that if all those Marxist guerillas in Central America had their way, they would have set up authoritarian regimes of their own.

You can complain that the US has authoritarian allies, which is true. But there's also plenty of US allies which are non authoritarian.

As opposed to the USSR and its little buddies like Cuba and (cough, cough) Sandinista Nicaraugua, which were all authoritarian regimes.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Dontcha just LOVE how the US is the blame for every single war in the world atm?

 

[legalimmigrant]

Considering you immigrated here, you must think the garbage can was full of promises of a better life.

We don't owe anyone better life or a promise of better life.

Liberals go apes*** when anybody mentions immigration without welfare.

This reveals the true nature of the big fat lie how immigrants, both legal and illegal, come here to work hard.

They come here to get the freebies and to rip the naive American taxpayers like you off.

 

[Moot]

Thats funny, considering that if all those Marxist guerillas in Central America had their way, they would have set up authoritarian regimes of their own.
You can complain that the US has authoritarian allies, which is true. But there's also plenty of US allies which are non authoritarian.

As opposed to the USSR and its little buddies like Cuba and (cough, cough) Sandinista Nicaraugua, which were all authoritarian regimes.

What came first, the United Fruit Company...or the Marxist guerillas? But were they really Marxist guerillas....or peasants demanding better wages from a US company exploiting them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

 

[Moot]

Nope. Modern levels of violence in Honduras, however, are not a product of NAFTA or Iran Contra.

It is in Mexico.

 

[Tigerace117]

What came first, the United Fruit Company...or the Marxist guerillas? But were they really Marxist guerillas....or peasants demanding better wages from a US company exploiting them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

Oh, there were plenty of Marxists running around down in Central and South America. United Fruit was scuzzy, but that doesn't excuse the actions of the Sandinistas, FARC, the Zapatistas, the Shining Path, ELN......