At the Heart of Conspiracy...

[Pull My Finger]

Apologies in advance for length...

I can't help but notice that much of what is discussed amongst 'theorists' still does nothing to actually change anything...

9/11, UFO's, Reptilian Agenda's, the CIA drug cartel, symbology, secret societies, New World Order, blood lines, Enron's, Holy Grail's, JFK's, etc, etc.

While there is truth and even proof in some of these subjects, nobody seems to tie it to the single most imporant conspiracy of them all - the vehicle that allows these conspiracies to be perpetrated in the first place. Most of these conspiracies are designed to protect this vehicle.

I am talking about our monetary and banking practices. ABOVE ALL ELSE, this is the ONE thing that can hurt the conspirators. It is their 'Achilles Heel'.

Most of you will think I am crazy to propose that it is possible to pay off the National Debt in 2-3 years, AND lower taxes, AND adequately fund our necessary public works and services...

While I will discuss the Federal Reserve, this information is true (in various forms of course) for almost every country on the planet...

The Fed controls interest rates
The Fed controls the country's reserves
The Fed controls the printing of money
The Fed tries to balance the economy

These are widely understood things about the Fed. What is not widey known, is that there is nothing Federal about the Fed. It is a PRIVATE organization made up of private member banks and stockholders - many of which are not even American. It operates above the law, and has never been audited.

It's pretty simple to see the gargantuan conflict of interest, and potential for extreme corruption/manipulation already... But there is more...

The profits made by this private organization come directly from the debts of average Americans and their Government. This is evident in the record consumer and National debts along with bank profits.

Moreover, the practice of Fractional Reserve Banking allows banks to issue 10x or more currency than actual reserves on hand. Ever wonder why the Fed tells us inflation is under control while in a single generation it is almost a must to have 2 incomes (and a renter or foreign exchange student) in the home just to make ends meet?
It's because 80%+ of the economy has absolutely nothing to back it. It's been fabricated out of thin air, and has seriously diluted the value of the dollar.

The corrupt 'elite' literally have a money making machine in the privitization of a country's central bank. It is this system that allows much of the corruption and hardship we experience today to take place. As long as this system stays in place the conspirators could weather multiple government collapses, scandals in any or all industries/markets, and even the assassination of every key player. The names and faces may change, but the corruption and their agenda would not miss a beat...

Now, with the help of the World Bank, the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the conspirators have applied their principles on a global scale. This is the crux of the New World Order that Bush sr., Rockefeller, Kissinger, etc have spoken about...

Any country that is under this system needs to withdraw from the WB, BIS, IMF, remove FRB banking practices, and abolish the laws that allow for a private central bank. Central banks are needed, but not in the hands of private corporations...

While this (IMO) is most important, there are two other areas that need serious attention as well. I will address these in different posts.

I ask that you not take my word for it. Look into it yourselves, and make up your own minds...
Consider these quotes in closing...

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." – Henry Ford

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” - Johann Wolfgang Goethe

“Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” - Meyer Amshel Rothschild

"We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board… This evil Institution has impoverished… the people of the United States… and has practically bankrupted our government." - Louis T. McFadden, Republican Rep for Pennsylvania &
Former chairman of the house banking and currency committee during depression

“The Federal Reserve definitely caused the Great depression by contracting the amount of currency in circulation by 1/3 from 1929 to 1933.”
“Any system which gives so much power and so much discretion to a few men, (so) that mistakes – excusable or not – can have such far reaching effects, is a bad system.” - Milton Friedman, Nobel Prize winning economist.

 

[Doremus Jessup]

How are the events of 9/11 tied to the Fed?

 

[Pull My Finger]

How are the events of 9/11 tied to the Fed?

9/11 was a psychological attack on the American (and indeed the world) population. Many know that it was not perpetrated by Osama/Al Queda, but by the elite who control the American Government itself. It was done, amongst many other things, to help usher in the New World Order.

The Federal Reserve, while the most powerful central bank in the world, is but a tiny piece of the puzzle...

The backbone of the NWO is private central banks (like the Fed) in every country, all governed by the World Bank.

The same people who run/manipulate these central banks are the same people who orchestrated 9/11.

Don't take my word...

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Apologies in advance for length...

I can't help but notice that much of what is discussed amongst 'theorists' still does nothing to actually change anything...

9/11, UFO's, Reptilian Agenda's, the CIA drug cartel, symbology, secret societies, New World Order, blood lines, Enron's, Holy Grail's, JFK's, etc, etc.

While there is truth and even proof in some of these subjects, nobody seems to tie it to the single most imporant conspiracy of them all - the vehicle that allows these conspiracies to be perpetrated in the first place. Most of these conspiracies are designed to protect this vehicle.

I am talking about our monetary and banking practices. ABOVE ALL ELSE, this is the ONE thing that can hurt the conspirators. It is their 'Achilles Heel'.

Most of you will think I am crazy to propose that it is possible to pay off the National Debt in 2-3 years, AND lower taxes, AND adequately fund our necessary public works and services...

While I will discuss the Federal Reserve, this information is true (in various forms of course) for almost every country on the planet...

The Fed controls interest rates
The Fed controls the country's reserves
The Fed controls the printing of money
The Fed tries to balance the economy

These are widely understood things about the Fed. What is not widey known, is that there is nothing Federal about the Fed. It is a PRIVATE organization made up of private member banks and stockholders - many of which are not even American. It operates above the law, and has never been audited.

The Fed is headed by the board of governors which are appointed by the President and Comfirmed by the Senate, they are a Federal Agency and periodically report to the Senate.

 

[Kandahar]

9/11 was a psychological attack on the American (and indeed the world) population. Many know that it was not perpetrated by Osama/Al Queda, but by the elite who control the American Government itself. It was done, amongst many other things, to help usher in the New World Order.

Now see, you were starting to make a credible-sounding (although irrational) argument about the Fed...and then you go and destroy all your credibility by writing this.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Now see, you were starting to make a credible-sounding (although irrational) argument about the Fed...and then you go and destroy all your credibility by writing this.

What do you expect from someone promoting rehashed Nazi Propaganda?

 

[Pull My Finger]

What do you expect from someone promoting rehashed Nazi Propaganda?

lol, skip right past the 'conspiracy nut' stage and go right to the anti-semite nazi... it's stale, really.

Look up the NWO. It is not a phrase cooked up by us conspiracy 'nuts', it's come right out of the mouths of our leaders. Bush sr, Rockefeller, etc...

Don't let this turn into a logical debate TOT, or you might not have a leg to stand on. Don't hate the player...

btw, my mother's side - all jewish, so you'll have to do better than just 'theory' about my nazism...

Peace

 

[Iriemon]

Why did you start another thread on the exact same subjects when we were discussing these exact same topics in another thread you started just a week ago?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/economics/18598-fed-conflict-interest.html

Your "the evil Fed controls the world" theory is based upon a number of false presumptions and incorrect understandings of how the Fed operates, as was pointed out in that thread. Here you are repeating the same things again.

It doesn't matter how many times you start a thread on the exact same subject if you do not either acknowledge facts, or provide some reliable evidence for your version of them.

Peace.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

lol, skip right past the 'conspiracy nut' stage and go right to the anti-semite nazi... it's stale, really.

It's rehashed nazi-propaganda with an American twist. It's elders of zion redux.

Look up the NWO. It is not a phrase cooked up by us conspiracy 'nuts', it's come right out of the mouths of our leaders. Bush sr, Rockefeller, etc...

Ya a euphamism for the Pax Americana, it's a good thing.

Don't let this turn into a logical debate TOT, or you might not have a leg to stand on. Don't hate the player...

This from the guy whose every post is steeped in conspiracism.

btw, my mother's side - all jewish, so you'll have to do better than just 'theory' about my nazism...

That's why I said rehashed Nazi Propaganda.

 

[Kandahar]

Look up the NWO. It is not a phrase cooked up by us conspiracy 'nuts', it's come right out of the mouths of our leaders. Bush sr, Rockefeller, etc...

When Bush used the phrase, it meant something completely different than when you nuts use the phrase. Please show me the speech where Bush claimed that this New World Order was a Zionist freemason cabal secretly controlling the world, or whatever the hell you believe.

 

[Gardener]

zyprexa


Now.

 

[Pull My Finger]

Why did you start another thread on the exact same subjects when we were discussing these exact same topics in another thread you started just a week ago?

I posted in both because I was new & wasn't sure if it would be accepted in the 'economics' category. Also, I didn't know if those who read the 'economics' category would read the conspiracy category... I was wrong... very wrong... lol

Unless future subject matter is overtly conspiracy in nature, I will only post on the other relevant threads...

Peace

 

[Pull My Finger]

It's rehashed nazi-propaganda with an American twist. It's elders of zion redux.

There are those who claim it is a Jewish or Zionist conspiracy. I'm not one of them. If there happens to be a lot of Jews in the mix, who cares...

Ya a euphamism for the Pax Americana, it's a good thing.

Funny you mention Pax Americana...

"I would support a Presidential candidate who pledged to take the following steps: ... At the end of the war in the Persian Gulf, press for a comprehensive Middle East settlement and for a 'new world order' based not on Pax Americana but on peace through law with a stronger U.N. and World Court." - George McGovern, in The New York Times (February 1991)

"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance." President George Bush addressing the General Assembly of the U.N.,February 1,1992

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity (the Persian Gulf crisis) to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." George Bush, in his State of the Union Address, January 29, 1991

"There are a lot of very brilliant people who believe that the nation-state is fast becoming a relic of the past," - President Clinton, New York Times, November 25, 1997

This from the guy whose every post is steeped in conspiracism.

I posted somewhere else... The word 'conspiracy' has an automatic negative connotation attached. As soon as anything remotely 'conspiracy' comes up, all logic goes out the window. My views may not be popular, but that doesn't make me incapable of a logical discussion... While I have remained fairly tolerant to the 'mudslinging', 'mudslinging' is largely what I run into when I broach these subjects. It says more about you, than me...

That's why I said rehashed Nazi Propaganda.

You forgot to add the 'with a twist' the first time around, my bad...

Peace

 

[Pull My Finger]

When Bush used the phrase, it meant something completely different than when you nuts use the phrase. Please show me the speech where Bush claimed that this New World Order was a Zionist freemason cabal secretly controlling the world, or whatever the hell you believe.

Review the quotes provided to TOT in previous post.

Peace

 

[Pull My Finger]

zyprexa


Now.

Ignoramusill, stat.

I could get a list of highly successful bi-polar people, but I can't be bothered... Off the top of my head, Ben Stiller, Ted Turner, Buzz Aldrin...

Good one though.

Peace

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Just so you are aware, zyprexa is prescribed for a psychotic disorder, not Bipolar Disorder.

Just trying to keep information accurate. Carry on with the conspiracy theorizing.

 

[Pull My Finger]

Just so you are aware, zyprexa is prescribed for a psychotic disorder, not Bipolar Disorder.

Just trying to keep information accurate. Carry on with the conspiracy theorizing.

This is true. It is also commonly prescribed as a mood stabilizer for bi-polar patients (usually in conjunction with an anti-depressant), & as a 'sleeping pill' of sorts for those with anxiety disorders.
First & foremost though, it is an anti-psychotic.
Nice of you though, thanks

Peace

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

This is true. It is also commonly prescribed as a mood stabilizer for bi-polar patients (usually in conjunction with an anti-depressant), & as a 'sleeping pill' of sorts for those with anxiety disorders.
First & foremost though, it is an anti-psychotic.
Nice of you though, thanks

Peace

No, it's generally not prescribed as a mood stabilizer, though it is also used for those with Bipolar to either help them sleep or to reduce their agitation. For Bipolar it is used in conjunction with Lithium, Depakote, or Tegritol. Using it in conjunction with an anti-depressant as the only medications for Bipolar would be fairly ineffective in managing the cycling mood disruptions; you'd address the depression and sedate the person, that's all.

It is, however an anti-psychotic, first and foremost.

Just a public service announcement. Back to your regularly scheduled conspiracy. :mrgreen:

 

[Pull My Finger]

No, it's generally not prescribed as a mood stabilizer, though it is also used for those with Bipolar to either help them sleep or to reduce their agitation. For Bipolar it is used in conjunction with Lithium, Depakote, or Tegritol. Using it in conjunction with an anti-depressant as the only medications for Bipolar would be fairly ineffective in managing the cycling mood disruptions; you'd address the depression and sedate the person, that's all.

It is, however an anti-psychotic, first and foremost.

Just a public service announcement. Back to your regularly scheduled conspiracy. :mrgreen:

Thanks Cap'n. In my experience, I have seen it used by a few in the manner I described. We all get it though...
Bravo.

Peace

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Thanks Cap'n. In my experience, I have seen it used by a few in the manner I described. We all get it though...
Bravo.

Peace

Happy to assist in being a provider of information. We can call this little interlude, "I got lost on my way to the Health and Wellness Forum.' :mrgreen:

 

[Pull My Finger]

Happy to assist in being a provider of information. We can call this little interlude, "I got lost on my way to the Health and Wellness Forum.' :mrgreen:

I've got one too. We can call it "I got lost on my way to the smart *** moderators who unbecomingly dodge their own rules Forum."

hmmm.... yeah, I like that one better.

Peace

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

I've got one too. We can call it "I got lost on my way to the smart *** moderators who unbecomingly dodge their own rules Forum."

hmmm.... yeah, I like that one better.

Peace

C'mon, Pull My Finger. Just being a little silly. No harm was intended.

 

[Pull My Finger]

C'mon, Pull My Finger. Just being a little silly. No harm was intended.

No harm done.

Peace Out. (i'm bagged)