At least 100 killed in suspected Islamist attacks in Niger

[The Mark]

“Terrorists” have killed around 100 people in two villages in western Niger, the latest in a string of civilian massacres that have rocked the jihadist-plagued Tillaberi region, a local mayor has said.

At least 100 die in Niger attacks blamed on jihadists

Attacks on two villages were launched just as first-round results were announced in presidential election

www.theguardian.com

Ho hum, another day - another Islamist massacre. No matter how many people Islamists kill, the Western world seems determined to never wonder aloud how much 'Islam' there is in 'Islamist'. Many on this forum simply refuse to accept the possibility of a connection, regardless of how easy it is to prove that connection.

Qur'an 9:111 - Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed.

Let the whataboutism begin.

I may be wrong about this, but I suspect that the vast majority of Muslims have less to do with the extremists than the bulk of conservatives/Republicans have to do with the people that attacked the Capitol.

How's that for a whataboutism?

 

[stevecanuck]

I may be wrong about this, but I suspect that the vast majority of Muslims have less to do with the extremists than the bulk of conservatives/Republicans have to do with the people that attacked the Capitol.

How's that for a whataboutism?

As perfect as it was pointless.

And, oh look, yet another progressive who can't be bothered to preface his remarks with something like, "Of course the loss of life is tragic, and nothing can excuse it, but .......".

 

[The Mark]

As perfect as it was pointless.

And, oh look, yet another progressive who can't be bothered to preface his remarks with something like, "Of course the loss of life is tragic, and nothing can excuse it, but .......".

Why would I need to state something so obvious?

Loss of life is always a negative.

 

[dixon01767]

I may be wrong about this, but I suspect that the vast majority of Muslims have less to do with the extremists than the bulk of conservatives/Republicans have to do with the people that attacked the Capitol.

How's that for a whataboutism?

????? The vast majority of Muslims claim the below are the divinely inspired commandments of Allah himself. Big difference.

[3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

[2.244] And fight in the way of Allah,...

[2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

[3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

[4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

[4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them,

 

[stevecanuck]

Why would I need to state something so obvious?

Loss of life is always a negative.

BS. It never crossed your mind to spare a thought for the victims. You just couldn't wait to stand on their graves and get straight to whataboutism.

Dismissed.

 

[The Mark]

BS. It never crossed your mind to spare a thought for the victims. You just couldn't wait to stand on their graves and get straight to whataboutism.

Dismissed.

Ah, I forgot you could literally read my thoughts.

Curses, foiled again.

 

[dave8383]

As perfect as it was pointless.

And, oh look, yet another progressive who can't be bothered to preface his remarks with something like, "Of course the loss of life is tragic, and nothing can excuse it, but .......".

Due to rightwing terrorism:

About 20,000 National Guard Members To Deploy For Inauguration, Officials Say

January 13, 20213:05 PM ET
BRAKKTON BOOKER

National Guard troops are inside the U.S. Capitol Visitor Center to reinforce security Wednesday at the Capitol in Washington. It comes a week after an insurrection at the Capitol.
J. Scott Applewhite/AP

https://www.npr.org/sections/insurr...e-deployed-for-inauguration-d-c-official-says

 

[dixon01767]

Due to rightwing terrorism:

Well, Jan 21 we will know if it was due to right wing terrorism or the left wings obsessive focus on right wing terrorism.

 

[dave8383]

Well, Jan 21 we will know if it was due to right wing terrorism or the left wings obsessive focus on right wing terrorism.

That makes no sense at all.

 

[stevecanuck]

That makes no sense at all.

Take it outside please.

 

[dixon01767]

That makes no sense at all.

Perhaps it will come to you by the 21st.

 

[dixon01767]

Iran is conducting military exercises shooting off its big missiles and guns.

“The message of this drill is our might and firm determination to defend our sovereignty, our holy ruling system, and our values against the enemies of Islam and Iran,” said Gen. Hossein Salami, the Guard’s top commander.

The text of Islamic doctrine in action today.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth,

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

 

[dixon01767]

Well, Jan 21 we will know if it was due to right wing terrorism or the left wings obsessive focus on right wing terrorism.

See what I meant? Purely the left wings obsessive, delusional focus on right wing terrorism.

 

[dave8383]

Iran is conducting military exercises shooting off its big missiles and guns.

“The message of this drill is our might and firm determination to defend our sovereignty, our holy ruling system, and our values against the enemies of Islam and Iran,” said Gen. Hossein Salami, the Guard’s top commander.

The text of Islamic doctrine in action today.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth,

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

 

[dixon01767]

Are you actually comparing "unlawful entry" and "disorderly conduct" to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until... religion is only for Allah"? Or were you highlighting the vastness of the contrast?

 

[dave8383]

Are you actually comparing "unlawful entry" and "disorderly conduct" to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until... religion is only for Allah"? Or were you highlighting the vastness of the contrast?

I'm saying isn't it funny how similar those in this country who are fixated on Islam are to Islam. You included.

 

[dixon01767]

I'm saying isn't it funny how similar those in this country who are fixated on Islam are to Islam. You included.

???? Not following your train of thought. Commenting on a thread about the Islamist attack isnt a fixation. Seems those compelled to defend it from legitimate criticism are the ones fixated.

 

[dave8383]

???? Not following your train of thought. Commenting on a thread about the Islamist attack isnt a fixation. Seems those compelled to defend it from legitimate criticism are the ones fixated.

Extremists are extremists be they Muslim or Trumpists. They're all a pain in the ass that have more in common with each other than they have with the rest of us.

 

[dixon01767]

Extremists are extremists be they Muslim or Trumpists. They're all a pain in the ass that have more in common with each other than they have with the rest of us.

You labeling Muslims who follow a strict literal interpretation of the Koran as extremists, should give you some indication of the contents of the koran.

 

[dave8383]

You labeling Muslims who follow a strict literal interpretation of the Koran as extremists, should give you some indication of the contents of the koran.

Look, have your conversation about how evil everyone else is and the adults will take care of the real threat. Trump and his fellow idiots.

 

[dixon01767]

Look, have your conversation about how evil everyone else is

Actually, I haven't labeled anyone evil and my criticisms have been of Islamic doctrine, not people.

 

[dave8383]

Actually, I haven't labeled anyone evil and my criticisms have been of Islamic doctrine, not people.

Rewrite the Koran then.

 

[dixon01767]

Rewrite the Koran then.

The writings of the Koran have stayed the same for centuries. From our nations first foreign war.

But one cannot get around what Jefferson heard when he went with John Adams to wait upon Tripoli’s ambassador to London in March 1785. When they inquired by what right the Barbary states preyed upon American shipping, enslaving both crews and passengers, America’s two foremost envoys were informed that “it was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
Jefferson Versus the Muslim Pirates by Christopher Hitchens, City Journal Spring 2007

The likes of ISIS and Alqaeda have taken the place of the Caliphates back in the day.

 

[stevecanuck]

Rewrite the Koran then.

ohmyohmyohmy. The level of ignorance required to make that statement is nearly incalculable.

 

[dave8383]

The writings of the Koran have stayed the same for centuries.

Then it's time for you to rewrite it.