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At 5:35 "We're just tryin' to help you out, make sure you're in compliance"

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So apparently this guy tried to register a lower in California. In response, a judge signed a search warrant and they sent 10 cops to search his home for a piece of metal:

 
Pretty disgusting. I guess cops have nothing better to do than harass people. Not like anyone is out there actually breaking the law and endangering people every day.
 
I guess that was the size of the SWAT team - 10 guys

Two elderly ladies in a park, one Japanese and one an American
The Japanese says "but I don't understand why you dropped TWO atomic bombs on Japan"
The American says "because dear, that's all we had..."
 
Tlrmln said:
Pretty disgusting. I guess cops have nothing better to do than harass people. Not like anyone is out there actually breaking the law and endangering people every day.
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The Californian district attorneys and AG want to turn criminals out of prison but they want to harass legal gun owners. No wonder people are moving out of California.
 
Sometimes harassment by police isn't about the cops on the scene, it's about how they got there. The overarching problem is police brutality, from the top and the ground. An aspect of this particular harassment is legislature playing games with sketchy laws. Basically, people are being harassed because the laws are sketchy. I'm very pro gun but wtf is going on with buying "80%", using a hole punch twice, and a gun was not purchased? Come on. We need to figure out that law.
 
Integrityrespec said:
The Californian district attorneys and AG want to turn criminals out of prison but they want to harass legal gun owners. No wonder people are moving out of California.
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Harass how ?

Cost of kiving seems to be the reason most people leave California.
 
What did this guy do to deserve that? He just tried to register an 80% receiver?
 
Rich2018 said:
No good reason ?

What did the judge issue the warrant for ?
Do you know ?
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It's pretty obvious from the video: they wanted to inspect his property to make sure he wasn't breaking the law.

Would you be okay with 10 cops police showing up at your house to double check and make sure you're not breaking the law? Maybe that you don't have a meth lab in your basement. You never know.
 
Tlrmln said:
It's pretty obvious from the video: they wanted to inspect his property to make sure he wasn't breaking the law.

Would you be okay with 10 cops police showing up at your house to double check and make sure you're not breaking the law? Maybe that you don't have a meth lab in your basement. You never know.
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Liberals.
 
Tlrmln said:
It's pretty obvious from the video: they wanted to inspect his property to make sure he wasn't breaking the law.

Would you be okay with 10 cops police showing up at your house to double check and make sure you're not breaking the law? Maybe that you don't have a meth lab in your basement. You never know.
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No that's not obvious from the video

Do you really think a judge signs a search warrant for law enforcement to just check if someone's breaking the law ?



"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
 
Rich2018 said:
No that's not obvious from the video

Do you really think a judge signs a search warrant for law enforcement to just check if someone's breaking the law ?



"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
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That's exactly what one of the officers said.

"We're just tryin' to help you out, make sure you're in compliance"
 
Rich2018 said:
No that's not obvious from the video

Do you really think a judge signs a search warrant for law enforcement to just check if someone's breaking the law ?



"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
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That's exactly what they said. They found the lower, said it's not an assault weapon so we're gonna leave it here, don't build outta compliance or you'll be in trouble, "we're just trying to help you out and make sure you're in compliance," and then see ya later.

It's hard to imagine what the "probable cause" could have been for this search.
 
Tlrmln said:
That's exactly what they said. They found the lower, said it's not an assault weapon so we're gonna leave it here, don't build outta compliance or you'll be in trouble, "we're just trying to help you out and make sure you're in compliance," and then see ya later.

It's hard to imagine what the "probable cause" could have been for this search.
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So the judge signing the search warrant did so on what basis ?
 
Rich2018 said:
So the judge signing the search warrant did so on what basis ?
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On the basis that he's a judge, and can sign whatever search warrant the cops put in front of him without seriously questioning it if he wants to.

If you can imagine an actual, legitimate probable cause, feel free to suggest what you think it might be.
 
Tlrmln said:
On the basis that he's a judge, and can sign whatever search warrant the cops put in front of him without seriously questioning it if he wants to.

If you can imagine an actual, legitimate probable cause, feel free to suggest what you think it might be.
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So you don't know

Or do you really think a judge will sign a search warrant with the justification left blank or ambiguous ?
 
Rich2018 said:
Or do you really think a judge will sign a search warrant with the justification left ... ambiguous ?
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Yes, absolutely.

Now answer my question: what could they possibly have put on that warrant that would have been true and would have constituted probable cause that a crime was committed.
 
California 80% receiver laws are complicated. The guy likely failed to dot an I or cross a t on the damn form. Most people never register these guns.
 
Grandpappy said:
California 80% receiver laws are complicated. The guy likely failed to dot an I or cross a t on the damn form. Most people never register these guns.
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It didn't look like an 80% lower, and nothing about the video indicates that's what it had to do with. The cop said that they found what they wanted to inspect, it wasn't an "assault weapon," and therefore they were going to leave it.
 
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