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Not with Putin in office and that was the question of this thread.I likewise am amazed by people like you. The fact remains that we invaded a sovereign nation illegally, based on a lie, and killed large numbers of civilians. It was evil, and it was wrong. Did we pay a price for it? Were we permanently excommunicated from civil society? No. We are doing just fine.
Someone asked if Russia can ‘ever again’ freely interact with other nations. My opinion and reply is ‘yes’ they can, because the United States remains an existential proof point that one can invade nations over and over, kill civilizations, destroy infrastructure and commit atrocities, then move on as if none of this ever happened. Your post exemplifies my point. You’ve moved on, and you’ve found a way to rationalize why what Russia is doing is worse than anything we’ve done, and therefore why Russia must remain excluded while we remain included.
Yes Iraq 2 was a horrible horrible atrocity, fought for all the wrong and false reasons. But we have paid for it in spades, in lives, in treasure in the respect of our allies and neighbors around the world. We have virtually no friends in the Middle East any longer unless you want to consider Saudi a friend. That would be a laugh.
The difference is that we admit that we went in to Iraq for the wrong reasons and without an exit strategy. We admit that we told ourselves massive lies and told the world massive lies. Heck Blinken just admitted it again in front of the UN when he referred to the lies told by Colin Powell in front of the UN. Don't expect Putin to own up to this massive mistake in Ukraine or his savagery in Syria or in Grosny. and if you cannot see the difference between Iraq/US and Ukraine/Russia I will have a hard time helping you.
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