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The left using lying propaganda against their political opponents. You are purposefully lying.
So @redbeer and @Fletch are aware this is out there and plan to vote for MAGA anyway.
Never, ever, ever, ever complain that you're misunderstood. We know what you're voting for.
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The left using lying propaganda against their political opponents. You are purposefully lying.
No, I didn't get that from the context of his speech at all.Right so if he needs their vote now and not later that basically means he isn't leaving.
I agree there are other comments that steer in this direction, but my point is those are the better ones to attack than trying to frame this one as such when that wasn't the implication. I'm all about taking Trump to task, but accurately. Having listened to the speech in question, someone framing the quote we're discussing in the context of it implying dictatorship just doesn't cut it. Critiquing an opponent should be accurate, because the moment it's out of context or flat out incorrect, those critiquing lose credibility.See the problem is he flirts with these ideas of dictatorship so the throught that you and fletch want to cut him some slack in a sense isn't gonna happen.
He didn't even imply it. This is an example of someone taking a quote and framing it as something it isn't. I just don't think that's necessary given the loads of idiocy available to take Trump to task. My hope is Harris and other groups don't resort to this kind of tactic, because it's easy to call out and make them look dishonest. It's not going to be very convincing for those on the fence if the critiques against Trump are dishonest, and it only furthers the claims of his supporters who cling to victimhood.It's zero tolerance with trump even if he may not have directly said it.
No, I didn't get that from the context of his speech at all.
We'll agree to disagree. There is no way I could take the meaning of his comment as the one implied in the OP after listening to the entire speech.There's no context to understand. I've watched the longer excerpts and still come back to the same conclusion, which is that the short snippet is still literally what he said and what he meant to say. This example is just as indicative of his authoritarian thinking as any other. That we're debating what he really meant in the context of what he was saying is indicative that it's a pretty effective gaslight.
We'll agree to disagree. There is no way I could take the meaning of his comment as the one implied in the OP after listening to the entire speech.
Any comparison of trump to Hitler shows a level of ignorance that is disqualifyingSo @redbeer and @Fletch are aware this is out there and plan to vote for MAGA anyway.
Never, ever, ever, ever complain that you're misunderstood. We know what you're voting for.
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If you don't see the similarities, it is your level of ignorance you should be concerned with.Any comparison of trump to Hitler shows a level of ignorance that is disqualifying
Wow, I wasnt expecting that from you but it is good to see that there are still some libs out there capable of rational thought.No, I didn't get that from the context of his speech at all.
I agree there are other comments that steer in this direction, but my point is those are the better ones to attack than trying to frame this one as such when that wasn't the implication. I'm all about taking Trump to task, but accurately. Having listened to the speech in question, someone framing the quote we're discussing in the context of it implying dictatorship just doesn't cut it. Critiquing an opponent should be accurate, because the moment it's out of context or flat out incorrect, those critiquing lose credibility.
He didn't even imply it. This is an example of someone taking a quote and framing it as something it isn't. I just don't think that's necessary given the loads of idiocy available to take Trump to task. My hope is Harris and other groups don't resort to this kind of tactic, because it's easy to call out and make them look dishonest. It's not going to be very convincing for those on the fence if the critiques against Trump are dishonest, and it only furthers the claims of his supporters who cling to victimhood.
None of us know exactly what he was talking about. Having said that, what do YOU think he was talking about. There had to be SOME meaning to what he said.He was not talking about fixing the vote.....are you okay?
There are no similarities that exist outside the delusional imaginations of the left.If you don't see the similarities, it is your level of ignorance you should be concerned with.
Yes, there are plenty of people who know what he was talking about and have tried to get you libs to understand. You guys dont want to know.None of us know exactly what he was talking about. Having said that, what do YOU think he was talking about. There had to be SOME meaning to what he said.
See post #101 and then keep reading.The comment itself is all that needs to be understood. What normal political figure in a modern liberal democracy would ever say that voting won't matter in four years? It's just such a jaw-dropping remark, except that it isn't because we're beginning to normalize it and internalize it as part of what passes for normal discourse.
See post #101 and then keep reading.
Those reasons are that you simply refuse to believe anything that conflicts with your hatred of the man.I saw it. I dismissed it for the reasons I already described.
Any comparison of trump to Hitler shows a level of ignorance that is disqualifying
Now there's some irony. The MAGA party of let's go back to when America was great (even though we can't say when that was) telling progressives to get out of the 50's. We left the 50's and 60's. Many of your group have not.Look, get out of the 50s menatality or Amerrica cannot move forward ever. Do some white people hate blacks? Yes. Do lots of black people hate whites because of positions like yours and MSM. Yes.
Get over it, dude.
Well, I am asking so that means I want to know. If you KNOW what he meant, inform me.Yes, there are plenty of people who know what he was talking about and have tried to get you libs to understand. You guys dont want to know.
Those reasons are that you simply refuse to believe anything that conflicts with your hatred of the man.
You don't realize you are far left.Now there's some irony. The MAGA party of let's go back to when America was great (even though we can't say when that was) telling progressives to get out of the 50's. We left the 50's and 60's. Many of your group have not.
I am the first to admit not every cause championed by progressives were great ideas. But many were. And ALL were opposed by the conservatives who think like you- claiming the causes to be radical, unamerican, destined to destroy the fabric of America. Rinse and repeat. MAGA is just the latest iteration.
I wish sane, rational conservatives would step to the plate and end the cultlike travesty of MAGA, which has absolutely nothing to do with the greatness of America. MAGA brings out the absolute worst in Americans.
You finding a liberal author who says the same stupid stuff as the rest of the left is not convincing.Any comparison to Hitler shows ignorance? This statement of yours shows igriorance.
The comparison between Trump and Hitler may not be 100% but there are many things between the two that can be compared, meaning that that ignorance is yours by saying this statement,
Here are facts (not opinion) where some comparisons can be made, starting with the fact that Trump has clearly stated that there are many things about Hitler that he praises
Trump Apparently Has a List of Things He Loves About Adolf Hitler
Donald Trump's former chief of staff, John Kelly, says the former president used to praise lots of things about Hitler.
and here is a study about what Trump has done that compares to what Hitler did and there are quite a few comparisons
The reich stuff – what does Trump really have in common with Hitler?
Comparisons between the ex-president and the 20th-century Nazi leader are controversial but a new book says they resemble each other as political performance artists
They all think they are moderates.You don't realize you are far left.
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