As part of Korea deal, should wee pull our troops out of Japan and South Korea?

[independentusa]

I have been reading and watching and found a lot of people who believe one of the NK's desire in this deal is to have us pull our troops out of both South Korea and Japan. Donald Trump has questioned the need for our troops to remain in these two countries. So, do you think it is a good idea as part of a deal to pull our troops out of the two countries?

 

[DaveFagan]

i have been reading and watching and found a lot of people who believe one of the nk's desire in this deal is to have us pull our troops out of both south korea and japan. Donald trump has questioned the need for our troops to remain in these two countries. So, do you think it is a good idea as part of a deal to pull our troops out of the two countries?

yes!
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[Roadvirus]

I think the pulling out of troops should only be done if NK meets certain criteria, such as allowing full access to any weapons sites at any time during a certain length of time. For example, if they allow inspectors into sites unrestricted for 2 years, we'll remove a certain number of troops from SK and/or Japan. After another 2 years, we'll remove more troops.

 

[Chomsky]

No! Absolutely not!

This is Xi's & Kim's goal. It is the power we hold over them, and once relinquished it's gone for good. It should never occur, until the PRNK has been 100% certified de-nuked, and the terms to proceed to a peace-treaty have been fully hammered-out and verified.

 

[Parrish]

No. Our allies, Japan in the Pacific, South Korea, NZ and Australia, also are not in favor of troop withdrawals or reductions in forces in the region.

 

[independentusa]

yes!
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One of the arguments against pulling them out is that it gives the Far East to Chins. Is that okay with you?

 

[Rob Larrikin]

No! Absolutely not!

This is Xi's & Kim's goal. It is the power we hold over them, and once relinquished it's gone for good. It should never occur, until the PRNK has been 100% certified de-nuked, and the terms to proceed to a peace-treaty have been fully hammered-out and verified.

Being a negotiator, Trump may offer (while bargaining) to reduce the numbers.

 

[faithful_servant]

I have been reading and watching and found a lot of people who believe one of the NK's desire in this deal is to have us pull our troops out of both South Korea and Japan. Donald Trump has questioned the need for our troops to remain in these two countries. So, do you think it is a good idea as part of a deal to pull our troops out of the two countries?

Nope. NK isn't the only player, Having a strong military presence in Japan and SK is also a deterrent for China.

 

[Old Trapper]

i have been reading and watching and found a lot of people who believe one of the nk's desire in this deal is to have us pull our troops out of both south korea and japan. Donald trump has questioned the need for our troops to remain in these two countries. So, do you think it is a good idea as part of a deal to pull our troops out of the two countries?

no!!!

 

[Mizzy22]

I have been reading and watching and found a lot of people who believe one of the NK's desire in this deal is to have us pull our troops out of both South Korea and Japan. Donald Trump has questioned the need for our troops to remain in these two countries. So, do you think it is a good idea as part of a deal to pull our troops out of the two countries?

Is it a good idea,to stab two allies in the back?
Probably a good idea to an Orange Madman.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I have been reading and watching and found a lot of people who believe one of the NK's desire in this deal is to have us pull our troops out of both South Korea and Japan. Donald Trump has questioned the need for our troops to remain in these two countries. So, do you think it is a good idea as part of a deal to pull our troops out of the two countries?

Only if, and it's a big big IF, if we get EVERYTHING we want as far as denuclearization, and it's verified, and only if we can be absolutely certain DPRK will not launch attacks on South Korea.
Thus, it is doubtful, although we might be able to look into trimming our thirty thousand troops down a bit in return for certain significant concessions from Kim, and we might be able to promise to cease overtly hostile exercises in the region.

 

[Mason66]

I have been reading and watching and found a lot of people who believe one of the NK's desire in this deal is to have us pull our troops out of both South Korea and Japan. Donald Trump has questioned the need for our troops to remain in these two countries. So, do you think it is a good idea as part of a deal to pull our troops out of the two countries?

Was that part of the deal or are you asking for your own information?

 

[Marion Morrison]

That doesn't sound like a good idea.

 

[yankintx]

No! Absolutely not!

This is Xi's & Kim's goal. It is the power we hold over them, and once relinquished it's gone for good. It should never occur, until the PRNK has been 100% certified de-nuked, and the terms to proceed to a peace-treaty have been fully hammered-out and verified.

Why is the Right ignoring this man abuse of human rights. He throws his people into concentration camps. When did this country stop giving a fig ?

 

[NonoBadDog]

I have been reading and watching and found a lot of people who believe one of the NK's desire in this deal is to have us pull our troops out of both South Korea and Japan. Donald Trump has questioned the need for our troops to remain in these two countries. So, do you think it is a good idea as part of a deal to pull our troops out of the two countries?

Won't ever happen regardless of what we (the public) think or want.

 

[MovingPictures]

Sounds like Trump got nothing new from this summit, or any timeline or specifics from North Korea at all.

That would make it identical to previous popcorn farts.

 

[Tangmo]

No! Absolutely not!

This is Xi's & Kim's goal. It is the power we hold over them, and once relinquished it's gone for good. It should never occur, until the PRNK has been 100% certified de-nuked, and the terms to proceed to a peace-treaty have been fully hammered-out and verified.

No. Our allies, Japan in the Pacific, South Korea, NZ and Australia, also are not in favor of troop withdrawals or reductions in forces in the region.

Indeed.

US forces in SK and Japan are of the same strategic significance as are the territory of each the South China Sea and the East Sea. Give any of that up and the Chinese dictators in Beijing will rightfully expect to grab the rest of it. And they will grab it. CCP Dictators in Beijing will then be picking out the furniture and drapes for when they move into your house and home here.

Nuclearization of the Korean peninsula was always designed for one purpose only which is to leverage the USA off the peninsula, out of Japan and to surrender the SCS. The nukes meanwhile will remain or be returned to the peninsula. The Kim Dynasty's number one has always been to rule over all Koreans in one Korea unified under the Kims. This boy Kim III was raised on that from before his adolescence, same as his father was.

All of this is why I have high confidence (belief) the joint chiefs and SecDef Mattis favor a military strike against Kim and His Gang and against the North broadly if that too would be required to eliminate the strategic threat to the USA. Chinese armed forces would then become irrelevant in the SCS, the East Sea and in the Asia-Pacific-Indian Ocean strategic region. I note that many people have always believed it would be near impossible for Beijing and the USA to avoid or avert some kind of military clash. We have indeed seen Xi Jinping remove the mask of China's peaceful rise. Xi's major problem is the classic Chinese flaw, i.e., hubris. Xi is doing it too soon and against the timetable laid out by Deng Xiao Ping. Little Dung.

 

[RetiredUSN]

Why is the Right ignoring this man abuse of human rights. He throws his people into concentration camps. When did this country stop giving a fig ?

OMG, do you ever stop with this nonsense?

I guess a nonsensical retort would be to refer back to the awesome Iran deal made by the last president?

After all, we all know that Iran never hung a gay man, or a woman for adultery, right?

And then again, there is those awesome displays in Saudi Arabia where beheadings are a public sport.

 

[yankintx]

Looks like Trump got a special relationship with Lil Dic, how fascinating. Did they look at each other and smile, yes Trump is that easy.

 

[holbritter]

I have been reading and watching and found a lot of people who believe one of the NK's desire in this deal is to have us pull our troops out of both South Korea and Japan. Donald Trump has questioned the need for our troops to remain in these two countries. So, do you think it is a good idea as part of a deal to pull our troops out of the two countries?

It would reduce our defense spending by about $10 billion a year, so maybe.

 

[DaveFagan]

One of the arguments against pulling them out is that it gives the Far East to Chins. Is that okay with you?

Yes. We killed millions in Phillipines. We killed millions in Japan. We killed millions in Korea. We killed millions in Vietnam. We killed millions in Cambodia/Laos. WE encouraged Japan to invade Mongolia/Korea and that resulted in 20 million dead, at least. I think our killing record in the Far East speaks for itself. We're really trying to control trade and trade routes in the Far East using hegemonic economic and military manipulation. The USA is broke. China is flush. China is using its' wealth to fund trade routes all over Eurasia to the benefit of all involved, especially China and Russia. Trump is forced to face the realities of a near bankrupt Nation and his experience with many bankruptcies may serve us well in this matter. The USA record on foreign development always follows the Latin American pattern of "Banana Republics," and corrupt governments. Panama, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, Cuba, etc. are all examples of USA CORPORATISM that has been ongoing for a century. I don't see China as a threat. The military they are developing is in place to defend against foreign/USA military on their near shores and neighboring Nations. That's the same USA that has killed millions all over the Far East. We are not the World's policeman. That is a propaganda narrative designed to conceal aggressive hegemonic behavior by the USA military and economic structures. Because of the USA indebtedness, the economic hegemony is threatened by sound currencies (think China and Russia). Our currency would have already crashed if it weren't for the fact that the sheer volume/quantity of it has spread all ovet the World due to the need for PetroDollars for energy purchases. That, and these holdings of USA reserves by foreign Nations puts everyone in the same boat with us and if it crashes, they crash. Neevertheless, the debt cycle ends in bankruptcy, not Nirvana.
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[DaveFagan]

Indeed.

US forces in SK and Japan are of the same strategic significance as are the territory of each the South China Sea and the East Sea. Give any of that up and the Chinese dictators in Beijing will rightfully expect to grab the rest of it. And they will grab it. CCP Dictators in Beijing will then be picking out the furniture and drapes for when they move into your house and home here.

Nuclearization of the Korean peninsula was always designed for one purpose only which is to leverage the USA off the peninsula, out of Japan and to surrender the SCS. The nukes meanwhile will remain or be returned to the peninsula. The Kim Dynasty's number one has always been to rule over all Koreans in one Korea unified under the Kims. This boy Kim III was raised on that from before his adolescence, same as his father was.

All of this is why I have high confidence (belief) the joint chiefs and SecDef Mattis favor a military strike against Kim and His Gang and against the North broadly if that too would be required to eliminate the strategic threat to the USA. Chinese armed forces would then become irrelevant in the SCS, the East Sea and in the Asia-Pacific-Indian Ocean strategic region. I note that many people have always believed it would be near impossible for Beijing and the USA to avoid or avert some kind of military clash. We have indeed seen Xi Jinping remove the mask of China's peaceful rise. Xi's major problem is the classic Chinese flaw, i.e., hubris. Xi is doing it too soon and against the timetable laid out by Deng Xiao Ping. Little Dung.

Youssa! Talk about having one's head stuck in a propaganda narrative pipeline. Check the ventilation system at Seaview Tower 5, Condo 2602.
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[Fledermaus]

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[Tigerace117]

Yes. We killed millions in Phillipines. We killed millions in Japan. We killed millions in Korea. We killed millions in Vietnam. We killed millions in Cambodia/Laos. WE encouraged Japan to invade Mongolia/Korea and that resulted in 20 million dead, at least. I think our killing record in the Far East speaks for itself. We're really trying to control trade and trade routes in the Far East using hegemonic economic and military manipulation. The USA is broke. China is flush. China is using its' wealth to fund trade routes all over Eurasia to the benefit of all involved, especially China and Russia. Trump is forced to face the realities of a near bankrupt Nation and his experience with many bankruptcies may serve us well in this matter. The USA record on foreign development always follows the Latin American pattern of "Banana Republics," and corrupt governments. Panama, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, Cuba, etc. are all examples of USA CORPORATISM that has been ongoing for a century. I don't see China as a threat. The military they are developing is in place to defend against foreign/USA military on their near shores and neighboring Nations. That's the same USA that has killed millions all over the Far East. We are not the World's policeman. That is a propaganda narrative designed to conceal aggressive hegemonic behavior by the USA military and economic structures. Because of the USA indebtedness, the economic hegemony is threatened by sound currencies (think China and Russia). Our currency would have already crashed if it weren't for the fact that the sheer volume/quantity of it has spread all ovet the World due to the need for PetroDollars for energy purchases. That, and these holdings of USA reserves by foreign Nations puts everyone in the same boat with us and if it crashes, they crash. Neevertheless, the debt cycle ends in bankruptcy, not Nirvana.
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What a titanic load of crap. Even for a North Korean fanboy your historical ignorance is truly laughable.

The Philippine Rebellion and Moro War saw 16,000 Filipino Troops killed in action. There were also a few hundred thousand deaths from cholera and famine.

In case you missed it, that's not "millions" of people. Is it regrettable? Sure. But Filipinos also overwhelmingly supported the US in the Second World War, so clearly they don't agree with your fantasies.

Yes, Imperial Japan, a deeply evil and utterly psychotic regime was crushed by the United States. Yes, Japan took a lot of casualties before they were finally forced to surrender. So what? Are we going to bemoan the number of SS killed by America next? You do realize that they were planning on setting off the bubonic plague in San Francisco.....right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cherry_Blossoms_at_Night

If North Korea hadn't brutally invaded South Korea, it never would have lost a single person. Instead, it chose to start a war. There are consequences to doung something like that.

Likewise, the North Vietnamese never would have lost anybody if they hadn't invaded the South; and Laos; and Cambodia.

Lol no, we did not encourage Japan to invade either Korea or Mongolia. Furthermore, the US took strong, decisive actions economically against Japan following their war crimes in China.

:lamo

Ah yes, the delusions that China, a country which really has killed tens of millions of innocent people, is some sort of benevolent guardian.

What a load of crap.

 

[Fledermaus]

Yes. We killed millions in Phillipines. We killed millions in Japan. We killed millions in Korea. We killed millions in Vietnam. We killed millions in Cambodia/Laos. WE encouraged Japan to invade Mongolia/Korea and that resulted in 20 million dead, at least. I think our killing record in the Far East speaks for itself. We're really trying to control trade and trade routes in the Far East using hegemonic economic and military manipulation. The USA is broke. China is flush. China is using its' wealth to fund trade routes all over Eurasia to the benefit of all involved, especially China and Russia. Trump is forced to face the realities of a near bankrupt Nation and his experience with many bankruptcies may serve us well in this matter. The USA record on foreign development always follows the Latin American pattern of "Banana Republics," and corrupt governments. Panama, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, Cuba, etc. are all examples of USA CORPORATISM that has been ongoing for a century. I don't see China as a threat. The military they are developing is in place to defend against foreign/USA military on their near shores and neighboring Nations. That's the same USA that has killed millions all over the Far East. We are not the World's policeman. That is a propaganda narrative designed to conceal aggressive hegemonic behavior by the USA military and economic structures. Because of the USA indebtedness, the economic hegemony is threatened by sound currencies (think China and Russia). Our currency would have already crashed if it weren't for the fact that the sheer volume/quantity of it has spread all ovet the World due to the need for PetroDollars for energy purchases. That, and these holdings of USA reserves by foreign Nations puts everyone in the same boat with us and if it crashes, they crash. Neevertheless, the debt cycle ends in bankruptcy, not Nirvana.
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We encouraged the Japanese to invade Korea and Mongolia?

Since when?

Why would Japan need to invade Korea?

Japan already owned Korea.

Japan's ownership of Korea began with the Japan/Korea Treaty of 1876...