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Ask someone who actually has experience.
Someone with actual experience just educated you.
Ask someone who actually has experience.
I disliked the Beretta. Didn't like weight distribution, sights, grip size, slide, anything.
We had humvees and occasionally Sheridans.
Only our Bradley drivers were issued sidearms and they were only issued sidearms.
We were 'heavy weapons company' (D). We were 11H(a). I read that division of battalion and mos no longer exists. Our arms room (I was awarded the cush job of company armorer for my last 6 months) had everything from 9mm to TOW missile systems with comp and thermal. For pistol qual, we grabbed whomever was available that day or wanted to go to the range. My friends and I had a variety of personal pistols; my opinion is mostly from personal comparisons.
(rolling my eyes at yet another off topic excuse to Trump bash)
You guys are more fixated on Trump than those Trump supporters are.
You live, breathe, and eat Trump 24 hours a day and can't quit talking about him for even one minute, can you?
What will be the purpose of your life once he is out of office?
From FOX News
Army says new war-ready M17 pistol will change modern combat
Earlier this year, soldiers with the Army’s 101st Airborne Division were the first to receive the services’ new high-tech 9mm pistol engineered to give dismounted infantry a vastly increased ability to fight and close with an enemy in caves, tunnels, crawl spaces, houses and other close quarter combat scenarios.
Service weapons developers and soldiers say the new M17 and M18 pistol, designed as a next-generation handgun to follow the Army’s current M9 Beretta, is expected to substantially change combat tactics, techniques and strategies for dismounted soldiers on-the-move.
“You can close with the enemy in close quarter combat and engage the enemy with one hand. It is tough to do this with the M9,” Lt. Col. Martin O’Donnell, spokesman for the 101st Airborne, told reporters earlier this year.
The new pistol is built with a more ergonomic configuration to better accommodate the widest possible range of hand grip techniques for soldiers and enable rapid hand switching as needed in combat. The M17 is said by developers to bring much tighter dispersion, improved versatility and next-generation accuracy.
COMMENT:-
It's great to see the American military buying American weapons from an American firm (even if that American firm isn't actually owned by Americans).
PS - Unless things have changed a whole lot, "The enemy is within accurate pistol shot range." means the same thing as "Somebody screwed up and the enemy is too damn close." 99 times out of 100.
Someone with actual experience just educated you.
In the M113 mech infantry units there were 5 line companies (A-E). Echo company was the anti-armor company, mounted in M901's. They were all issued rifles, I think. I don't recall any enlisted troops having a sidearm as their primary weapon. I was only in a 113 unit for a year or so before we transitioned to Bradleys, then there were only 4 line companies, doing away with the anti-armor company.
Looks like a nice pistol. But saying it will transform modern warfare seems a bit way over the top. It's just a pistol.
10mm? Thats a hot load. Ive heard pistols using that caliber develop cracks in their barrels after just a few hundred rounds fired. I prefer the 45 ACP myself.
I can think of several scenarios in which you may need to fire one-handed. They are all scenarios you definitely don’t want to find yourself in, but it happens.
Oh no it isn't!
It's an **A*M*E*R*I*C*A*N** pistol.
You do know that "mechanized infantry" and "cavalry" are NOT the same thing, don't you?
My goodness, an actual person who served as MOUNTED cavalry and who is still alive.
I'm impressed.
I'll tell you this much, once Trump is out of office and his Trump-style Republican minions are out of power, searching for a purpose in life will be much easier because I won't wake up every single goddamned day wondering if either my son or my wife are about to lose their health coverage, and I won't have to wonder if my wife is going to get a great big phony "THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE" followed by a privatization letter and a kick in the teeth.
And that's just for starters.
You should thank your lucky stars that YOUR life is so fortunate that you are largely insulated from his nonsense.
That's why you seem to think this is some kind of a joke.
Giving "sticking it to libtards" as a reason to live and a purpose in life to a few million otherwise worthless people was a great reality tee vee script idea. It is not, however, a blueprint for preserving the greatest modern industrialized free democratic republic in history.
It's a recipe for destroying it.
Real Housewives, Survivor, Big Brother and The Apprentice and all the other "screw over your buddy" shows are not "reality" but now, thanks to Trumpism, they have become boilerplate substitutes for patriotism, family values, ethics, morals and upward mobility, and the weapons grade historical revisionism to keep those illusions afloat have become a multi-billion dollar industry, and the coin of the realm in social media.
Congratulations, you've learned how to turn the movie "Idiocracy" into a how-to training film. And you sit there and nonchalantly act as if it's no big deal.
Well, it is a big deal.
Pink:From FOX News
Army says new war-ready M17 pistol will change modern combat
Earlier this year, soldiers with the Army’s 101st Airborne Division were the first to receive the services’ new high-tech 9mm pistol engineered to give dismounted infantry a vastly increased ability to fight and close with an enemy in caves, tunnels, crawl spaces, houses and other close quarter combat scenarios.
Service weapons developers and soldiers say the new M17 and M18 pistol, designed as a next-generation handgun to follow the Army’s current M9 Beretta, is expected to substantially change combat tactics, techniques and strategies for dismounted soldiers on-the-move.
“You can close with the enemy in close quarter combat and engage the enemy with one hand. It is tough to do this with the M9,” Lt. Col. Martin O’Donnell, spokesman for the 101st Airborne, told reporters earlier this year.
The new pistol is built with a more ergonomic configuration to better accommodate the widest possible range of hand grip techniques for soldiers and enable rapid hand switching as needed in combat. The M17 is said by developers to bring much tighter dispersion, improved versatility and next-generation accuracy.
COMMENT:-
It's great to see the American military buying American weapons from an American firm (even if that American firm isn't actually owned by Americans).
PS - Unless things have changed a whole lot, "The enemy is within accurate pistol shot range." means the same thing as "Somebody screwed up and the enemy is too damn close." 99 times out of 100.
I was mech infantry, actually. If cavalry still rode horses, that would have been different.
I'll tell you this much, once Trump is out of office and his Trump-style Republican minions are out of power, searching for a purpose in life will be much easier because I won't wake up every single goddamned day wondering if either my son or my wife are about to lose their health coverage, and I won't have to wonder if my wife is going to get a great big phony "THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE" followed by a privatization letter and a kick in the teeth.
And that's just for starters.
You should thank your lucky stars that YOUR life is so fortunate that you are largely insulated from his nonsense.
That's why you seem to think this is some kind of a joke.
Giving "sticking it to libtards" as a reason to live and a purpose in life to a few million otherwise worthless people was a great reality tee vee script idea. It is not, however, a blueprint for preserving the greatest modern industrialized free democratic republic in history.
It's a recipe for destroying it.
Real Housewives, Survivor, Big Brother and The Apprentice and all the other "screw over your buddy" shows are not "reality" but now, thanks to Trumpism, they have become boilerplate substitutes for patriotism, family values, ethics, morals and upward mobility, and the weapons grade historical revisionism to keep those illusions afloat have become a multi-billion dollar industry, and the coin of the realm in social media.
Congratulations, you've learned how to turn the movie "Idiocracy" into a how-to training film. And you sit there and nonchalantly act as if it's no big deal.
Well, it is a big deal.
I don't live in Los Angeles, so NO, it is not a big deal.
I am not subject to the propaganda you must digest each and every hour of the day.
You have been programmed and don't even know it.
The PC world rules the entire universe where you live.
I know, I used to live in Tujunga and worked in Burbank.
I can think of several scenarios in which you may need to fire one-handed. They are all scenarios you definitely don’t want to find yourself in, but it happens.