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Army Raises Enlistment Age for Reservists to 39

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I saw this earlier and almost posted it.

Much better than a draft IMO.
 

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Well the draft didn't work so well during Nam. Ended up with a bunch of guys that didn't want to serve. But we're falling short of the numbers needed so we've got to do something.
 

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Pacridge said:
Well the draft didn't work so well during Nam. Ended up with a bunch of guys that didn't want to serve. But we're falling short of the numbers needed so we've got to do something.
It is a replacement for a draft, and hopefully it will eliminate any need for a draft. If Bush doesn't invade any other countries throughout his second term, no draft should be needed and this measure will be all. Of course, that's one mighty big 'if', considering the way Mr. Bush talks...
 

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It is a replacement for a draft, and hopefully it will eliminate any need for a draft. If Bush doesn't invade any other countries throughout his second term, no draft should be needed and this measure will be all. Of course, that's one mighty big 'if', considering the way Mr. Bush talks...
He's a results oriented guy. When he talks, folks tend to listen. Who's listening? How about the folks in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iran and a few others in that neck of the woods. They saw what happened in Iraq and they don't want to see anything resembling free elections in their bailiwicks.
 

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haha

darn.. so you mean we are not gonna be able to sucker punch France?
 

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Fantasea said:
He's a results oriented guy. When he talks, folks tend to listen. Who's listening? How about the folks in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iran and a few others in that neck of the woods. They saw what happened in Iraq and they don't want to see anything resembling free elections in their bailiwicks.
Really, because usually when he talks I can't figure out what the he*l he's trying to say. Just the other day (March 16th) I heard him say: "I repeat, personal accounts do not permanently fix the solution." :screwy Well if he says so, he ought to know he's the President.
 

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Pacridge said:
Really, because usually when he talks I can't figure out what the he*l he's trying to say. Just the other day (March 16th) I heard him say: "I repeat, personal accounts do not permanently fix the solution." :screwy Well if he says so, he ought to know he's the President.
First, you take a phrase out of context and expect to be considered clever.

Second, you take the same phrase and conveniently ignore the operative word, "permanently".

Third, no definitive plan has been released. When one is, then there will be something to debate.

The thrust seems to be toward allowing workers under the age of fifty to set aside part of their social security tax in a private account which they will own and may will to their heirs. The plan is optional. Folks may stick with the current SS plan if they wish. There will be no change for anyone over the age of fifty who is working and no change at all for anyone currently receiving benefits.

If that, in fact, is how things shake out, where's the problem?
 

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First, you take a phrase out of context and expect to be considered clever.

Second, you take the same phrase and conveniently ignore the operative word, "permanently".

Third, no definitive plan has been released. When one is, then there will be something to debate.

The thrust seems to be toward allowing workers under the age of fifty to set aside part of their social security tax in a private account which they will own and may will to their heirs. The plan is optional. Folks may stick with the current SS plan if they wish. There will be no change for anyone over the age of fifty who is working and no change at all for anyone currently receiving benefits.

If that, in fact, is how things shake out, where's the problem?
I'm not ignoring any words. The statement didn't make any sense when he said it and I didn't have to take any of it out of context for it not to make any sense. Listening to Bush speak is much like watching a drunk man attempt to walk across an icy road. You're welcome to defend it, but I doubt his verbal skills will see any improvement.
 

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Pacridge said:
Well the draft didn't work so well during Nam. Ended up with a bunch of guys that didn't want to serve. But we're falling short of the numbers needed so we've got to do something.
Of course it didn't. When you have a system that allows the privileged to easily evade it, the less privileged are going to resent it very much, and rightly. There are not going to be all that many 39-year-olds lusting after a Reserve career. :screwy
 

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Pacridge said:
I'm not ignoring any words. The statement didn't make any sense when he said it and I didn't have to take any of it out of context for it not to make any sense. Listening to Bush speak is much like watching a drunk man attempt to walk across an icy road. You're welcome to defend it, but I doubt his verbal skills will see any improvement.
My experience is that, where others are concerned, people see exactly what they wish to see.

One cannot take a single sound bite, sentence, or paragraph, and extrapolate it into the proposal for a federal program. However, those who have an ax to grind will seize upon a few words and try, mightily, to do so.

His verbal skills are what they are. Given his successes and achievements, I wouldn't care if he was mute. He manages to get the job done. That's what counts.
 

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Fantasea said:
My experience is that, where others are concerned, people see exactly what they wish to see.

One cannot take a single sound bite, sentence, or paragraph, and extrapolate it into the proposal for a federal program. However, those who have an ax to grind will seize upon a few words and try, mightily, to do so.

His verbal skills are what they are. Given his successes and achievements, I wouldn't care if he was mute.He manages to get the job done. That's what counts.
:agree Good post Fantasea. That is why there is a lot of personal hatred for him.

Like the highly intellectual John Kerry said: "I can't believe I'm losing to this idiot."

Libs think Bush is stupid - yet somehow he succeeds.
 

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:agree Good post Fantasea. That is why there is a lot of personal hatred for him.

Like the highly intellectual John Kerry said: "I can't believe I'm losing to this idiot."

Libs think Bush is stupid - yet somehow he succeeds.
When did Kerry say that?
 

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Fantasea said:
My experience is that, where others are concerned, people see exactly what they wish to see.

One cannot take a single sound bite, sentence, or paragraph, and extrapolate it into the proposal for a federal program. However, those who have an ax to grind will seize upon a few words and try, mightily, to do so.

His verbal skills are what they are. Given his successes and achievements, I wouldn't care if he was mute. He manages to get the job done. That's what counts.
You start off by saying "people listen when Bush speaks." I point out many times when he speaks I can't understand what he's taking about. You then say I'm taking something he said out of context. I then point out I didn't take anything out of context. You then state: "However, those who have an ax to grind will seize upon a few words and try, mightily, to do so." "and that His verbal skills are what they are. Given his successes and achievements, I wouldn't care if he was mute." Nice of you to come full circle. And it's not a few words, it's endless. Here's a couple of my favorites:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.'' —Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

Maybe it would be better if he were mute.
 

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Pacridge said:
"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004
:rofl

Now that is funny.

However, I tend to agree with Fant - the job does indeed get done.
 

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Pacridge said:
When did Kerry say that?
Here's an excerpt.

"Mr Kerry, now in sessions with a speech coach, grew increasingly frustrated. After a faltering press conference by Mr Bush in April, and with Iraq in turmoil, Mr Kerry exclaimed: “I can’t believe I’m losing to this idiot”."

The rest of the story is hilarious as it describes the frustration in the Kerry household. You probably remember that Ms. Ketchup had a short fuse. You can find the entire article here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1344943,00.html

You will note that the publication is not part of the socialist-lib-dem apologist US media.
 

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Pacridge said:
You start off by saying "people listen when Bush speaks." I point out many times when he speaks I can't understand what he's taking about. You then say I'm taking something he said out of context. I then point out I didn't take anything out of context. You then state: "However, those who have an ax to grind will seize upon a few words and try, mightily, to do so." "and that His verbal skills are what they are. Given his successes and achievements, I wouldn't care if he was mute." Nice of you to come full circle. And it's not a few words, it's endless. Here's a couple of my favorites:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.'' —Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

Maybe it would be better if he were mute.
No matter how you slice it, the electorate understood him and so do the heads of state in the Middle East.

Now that the highly successful Iraqi elections are getting to be old news, I notice that the Europeans have quieted down and appear to be listening, too.

In addition to getting the job done, he gives us a few laughs, too. As the song lyric goes, "Who could ask for anything more?"
 

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Fantasea said:
Here's an excerpt.

"Mr Kerry, now in sessions with a speech coach, grew increasingly frustrated. After a faltering press conference by Mr Bush in April, and with Iraq in turmoil, Mr Kerry exclaimed: “I can’t believe I’m losing to this idiot”."

The rest of the story is hilarious as it describes the frustration in the Kerry household. You probably remember that Ms. Ketchup had a short fuse. You can find the entire article here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1344943,00.html

You will note that the publication is not part of the socialist-lib-dem apologist US media.
You're right that publication is owned by:

News Corp
Corporate Headquarters
10000 Santa Monica Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90067

They also own and operate Fox News, another organization that liked to make up stories about Mr. Kerry.

Here's a list of other so called news outlets that News Corp operates:

http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/newscorp.asp
 

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Pacridge said:
You're right that publication is owned by:

News Corp
Corporate Headquarters
10000 Santa Monica Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90067

They also own and operate Fox News, another organization that liked to make up stories about Mr. Kerry.

Here's a list of other so called news outlets that News Corp operates:

http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/newscorp.asp
That's why this story didn't appear in the NY Times or the LA Times, don't you know.
 
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