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[W:2475] Ariz. State Senate Hears Preliminary Audit Report

In fact Obama was one of the key figures in creating the housing market collapse and the consequent recession. Democrat in Congress denied there was a problem in the market and that any suspicions were, as usual, "racist".
Lol no. Republicans from 2001-2007 killed every single bill proposed in congress to address Fanny/Freddy which directly led to the housing collapse.
 
You don't think it sad and weird that someone would count up supposed lies that obviously couldn't be mistakes. Pretty shallow individual to always focus on the perceived negatives that never really impacted you or your family in any negative way. doubt seriously that you ever supported Trump and even though you benefited from his policies still have too much liberalism in you as he did everything possible to destroy the liberal ideology because results trumped propaganda for 74 million Americans, 10 million more than 2016. Think there will ever come a time when you stop diverting to Trump and start addressing the Biden results? Seems to me that Trump has a lot more influence on your life than your corrupt mayor and governor
 
The R's and they opposed Clinton on nearly everything, including Clinton's tax increase, that Gingrich said would cause a recession. It didn't.
So didn't that tax increase give us a GOP Congress? Did Clinton sign the tax cut act of I believe 1997? Selective partisan propaganda continues to come from you totally ignoring results.
 
Lol no. Republicans from 2001-2007 killed every single bill proposed in congress to address Fanny/Freddy which directly led to the housing collapse.
That's is contrary to every available fact and, unless Youtube took them down, have been there since that time. Are you aware of Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae at the time? Barney Frank? Maxine Waters? Who told you the above??? You've been used, seriously misinformed, and should be pissed off about it.

 
That's is contrary to every available fact and, unless Youtube took them down, have been there since that time. Are you aware of Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae at the time? Barney Frank? Maxine Waters? Who told you the above??? You've been used, seriously misinformed, and should be pissed off about it.


Then let's not forget Franklin Raines and Jaime Gorelick but then history is always re-written by the left when it doesn't match their narrative. Oh, almost forgot Chris Dodd and Glass Steagall
 
Yes the economy boomed under Trump as he unlike you understands the economy and private sector. He destroyed ISIS, he made NATO stronger and put America first which generated 10 million more votes than 2016. You cannot give a valid reason to support Biden
The economy under Trump was a continuation of the recovery begun under Obama with pretty much the same rates of growth. ISIS is still around. Just ask Iraq. Trump did Russia's bidding to weaken NATO by straining the relationships within it and pulling back on American support. Biden has gotten busy on restoring those fractured relationships with our allies. Trump doesn't understand anything about the economy or the private sector. He ignored his own advisers warnings that an uncontrolled spread of the virus would have serious economic implications and consequences associated with that spread. Trump could have leveled with the American people and worked mitigate those consequences by imploring all Americans to work together in a national effort to slow the spread by faithfully wearing masks, practicing social distancing and adopting extra hygienic practices in their daily routine. While also cautioning them that will be some difficulties that will have to be endured together until the virus is sufficiently slowed. If he had trusted the American to not blame him for natural consequences of pandemic as long he was doing everything he can help us fight it than maybe Biden might not have gotten 10 million votes than he did. But instead clung to his misplaced faith in American exceptionalism and his own instinct to protect his own self and political interest and not trust the American people. As charlatans are wont to do.
 
Right like all liberals lie as they claim they wanted the economic shutdown to stop the spread of the virus when the reality is they wanted the bad economic results to blame on Trump. What did you expect the economic results to be with the shutdown?
Not true at all. Nobody wanted that. But that what happens when you deliberately downplay a serious infectious disease and politicize it rather than manage it for the greater good of all.
 
You don't think it sad and weird that someone would count up supposed lies that obviously couldn't be mistakes. Pretty shallow individual to always focus on the perceived negatives that never really impacted you or your family in any negative way. doubt seriously that you ever supported Trump and even though you benefited from his policies still have too much liberalism in you as he did everything possible to destroy the liberal ideology because results trumped propaganda for 74 million Americans, 10 million more than 2016. Think there will ever come a time when you stop diverting to Trump and start addressing the Biden results? Seems to me that Trump has a lot more influence on your life than your corrupt mayor and governor
Its not sad or weird when the most powerful man in the world lies and misleads many times everyday. I notice you haven't defended any of his lies, just mad they are being referenced.

Here is a clue, its not about liberalism or conservatism. Its about a disgusting lying sack of shit that was in power for 4 years. A major danger to our democratic republic who only cares about himself.

Do you actually read your responses before posting?
 
Here is a clue, its not about liberalism or conservatism.
Exactly so.
Its about a disgusting lying sack of shit that was in power for 4 years. A major danger to our democratic republic who only cares about himself.
I have to disagree with that. Not in principle but in detail. The bigger problem is not Trump, who you have well described, but the 74 millions degenerates that enabled him and continue to enable scum like McConnell, Haley, Jordan, Greene, etc. etc. who continue to be a real danger to our nation.
 
That's is contrary to every available fact and, unless Youtube took them down, have been there since that time. Are you aware of Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae at the time? Barney Frank? Maxine Waters? Who told you the above??? You've been used, seriously misinformed, and should be pissed off about it.
It’s part of the congressional voting record from 2001-2007. Republicans killed every single attempt to regulate Fanny and Freddy.

 
Con, the entire world shutdown during the pandemic. Are you making the absurd claim that the entire world shutdown to create poor economic results to blame on Trump? Really? Run with that one.

I am not going to fall for your transparent trap -- when the news is good, Trump gets credit. When it is bad, blame Democratic governors.

He does that often, ignoring the simple fact a bunch of industries were going to be impacted because of the pandemic. Since he's only interested in pointing fingers, it's liberals who made all of this possible to blame Trump. It's a laughable premise.
 
In fact Obama was one of the key figures in creating the housing market collapse and the consequent recession. Democrat in Congress denied there was a problem in the market and that any suspicions were, as usual, "racist".
Obama was a first term Senator, not president when the housing bubble burst.

Democrats took control of Congress in January 2007 after 14 years of Republican control. Yeah, it must have been the Democrat's fault.

Read a little about the cause of the crisis.
 
Not true at all. Nobody wanted that. But that what happens when you deliberately downplay a serious infectious disease and politicize it rather than manage it for the greater good of all.
Of course those who think Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess should be wondering why he didn't see through this ploy, and instead advocated everyone follow the CDC guidelines to help end the pandemic quickly, thereby giving the Democrats no political steam to blame him for the pandemic results.
;)
 
It was very easy to post policies that were helpful to Trump, Obama's anti private sector policies forcing businesses to offer ACA or getting taxed not to.

The businesses subject to the employer mandate already offered coverage (~95% did). It was designed to prevent employers from dropping coverage and dumping employees into the marketplaces, not to coerce employers to newly offer coverage.

That said, it was a mistake, they should’ve been encouraging employers to send employers to the marketplaces instead of preventing it.
 
I love reading claims that Obama was anti-private sector when the stock market boomed under his leadership as well as corporate profits.

If he was trying to be anti-private sector, he did an awful job. Even the ACA was a private sector solution -- private individuals buying private insurance policies from private insurance companies. As Con would say, socialism.
 
Not true at all. Nobody wanted that. But that what happens when you deliberately downplay a serious infectious disease and politicize it rather than manage it for the greater good of all.
The economic shutdown was bipartisan, do you know what that means?? Seriously downplay?? You keep ignoring that he declared the pandemic in March but keep focusing on the past so you don't have to address the failures of the Biden and incompetent Harris. It is stunning how poorly educated liberals are on basic civics including the 10th Amendment and even management 101 where you cannot have responsibility when you don't have the authority.
 
Its not sad or weird when the most powerful man in the world lies and misleads many times everyday. I notice you haven't defended any of his lies, just mad they are being referenced.

Here is a clue, its not about liberalism or conservatism. Its about a disgusting lying sack of shit that was in power for 4 years. A major danger to our democratic republic who only cares about himself.

Do you actually read your responses before posting?
So sad that people spent days and months wordsmithing everything Trump said and determining if it was a lie or not, what it a lie when Obama said we could keep our doctor and hospital or a mistake. Do you know the difference. Anyway Trump is out of office so stop diverting from your own state disaster and the terrible economic policies of Biden and incompetent Harris

Here is a clue results matter and all you do is divert from the best results of any President in history for the first three years in office. Liberals knew they couldn't address those results so they weaponized Covid and the supposed lies, tell me which of those supposed lies impacted you and your family? Your childish name calling of the President of the United States is noted just like your total ignorance of the disastrous results generated by your governor, Cuomo. Did Trump send infected seniors back into their nursing homes? Such passionate hatred you have for Trump almost like you were a family member of Obama/Biden. Why such passion, oh, wait, I get it, you didn't like the tax cuts that reduced the high amount of state and local taxes you were able to deduct from your federal return. got it, subsidizing those high taxes by reducing your federal return is class book liberalism, whining and complaining when the cost of liberalism is exposed
 
Remember when Trump said the market would crash if Biden was elected? 😂😂😂
I remember when Trump generated all those positive results that you want to ignore, are you a family member of Biden/Obama for what creates such loyalty to those two? You post crap all the time and when rebuked you are off and running to some other anti Trump thread. Too bad results don't resonate with people like you. Are you one of those liberals living in high taxed states pissed off because Trump reduced you deduction off your federal return for those high state and local taxes? What's wrong, the cost of liberalism exposed?
 
The economic shutdown was bipartisan, do you know what that means?? Seriously downplay?? You keep ignoring that he declared the pandemic in March but keep focusing on the past so you don't have to address the failures of the Biden and incompetent Harris. It is stunning how poorly educated liberals are on basic civics including the 10th Amendment and even management 101 where you cannot have responsibility when you don't have the authority.
So, you are saying the President of the United States has no responsibility to address pandemics? Breathtaking.

I guess it was just a coincidence that we had a president that downplayed and denied the seriousness of the virus, unlike every other world leader, and the U.S. had the most casualties of any country on Earth.

Yup, we must be the stupid ones 🙄
 
I remember when Trump generated all those positive results that you want to ignore, are you a family member of Biden/Obama for what creates such loyalty to those two? You post crap all the time and when rebuked you are off and running to some other anti Trump thread. Too bad results don't resonate with people like you. Are you one of those liberals living in high taxed states pissed off because Trump reduced you deduction off your federal return for those high state and local taxes? What's wrong, the cost of liberalism exposed?
To have a debate, all parties must work from a common set of facts. But you have your own set of facts that others do not accept, making debate
impossible.

I said above, remember when Trump said if Biden wins the economy will crash? Trump said that and instead of admitting he was *at least* wrong, you go off the rails into crazy town.
 
So, you are saying the President of the United States has no responsibility to address pandemics? Breathtaking.

I guess it was just a coincidence that we had a president that downplayed and denied the seriousness of the virus, unlike every other world leader, and the U.S. had the most casualties of any country on Earth.

Yup, we must be the stupid ones 🙄
I got my first shot on January 6 so it looks like he not only implemented a travel ban in January, one that your heroes in the Democratic Party didn't support, was part of the pandemic declaration in March 2020, got the first stimulus package approved that put money in people's pockets then implemented Project Warp Speed to get the vaccine approved another issue Biden said couldn't happen. Your biased partisan out of touch with reality posts show an historical ignorance and partisan hatred that is scary and unhealthy
 
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