Are You Willing to Starve to Marginally Reduce the Mortality Rate of the Coronavirus

[AmNat]

Simple question. Are you willing to go hungry during a depression, so that a handful of immunocompromised coronavirus patients can live a little bit longer (before dying of something else)?

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Economic System serves me, I do not serve it.

THE END

 

[Moonglow]

Simple question. Are you willing to go hungry during a depression, so that a handful of immunocompromised coronavirus patients can live a little bit longer (before dying of something else)?

Before I started receiving disability in 2012 I dumpster dived. I don't plan on doing it again..

 

[RetiredUSN]

Simple question. Are you willing to go hungry during a depression, so that a handful of immunocompromised coronavirus patients can live a little bit longer (before dying of something else)?

I am willing to make sacrifices and life style adjustments to minimize any harm that I might possibly do to a compromised person.

That is all that is being asked from from all of us.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I am willing to make sacrifices and life style adjustments to minimize any harm that I might possibly do to a compromised person.

That is all that is being asked from from all of us.

No, we are being asked to sacrifice perhaps our lives but for sure the lives of family and friends to this bug.....plus the lives of some of our best and brightest.

We are also being told to make the lives of our first responders at least Hell, and maybe ending their lives as well.

Let us be Chrystal clear on this point.

 

[Individual]

Why, when I can just go out in the yard and grab a chicken or a duck or go to the pond and catch a few fish and then pick some fruits and vegetables from the yard or garden and eat the same as we do each and every day?

 

[Waddy]

I have enough stocked up not to starve. But I would go hungry for a day if it helped someone live longer.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

I think we need to change the name of the 'pro-life' people to the 'lets us pick and choose who lives' people..

 

[Chomsky]

I am willing to make sacrifices and life style adjustments to minimize any harm that I might possibly do to a compromised person.

That is all that is being asked from from all of us.

Hear! Hear!

:thumbs:

 

[roguenuke]

Simple question. Are you willing to go hungry during a depression, so that a handful of immunocompromised coronavirus patients can live a little bit longer (before dying of something else)?

It's not just those immunocompromised who will die. We are going to overwhelm our medical system if we dont take that into account. That will cause others who would have been treatable to die too. And those people matter to others.

I'm not going to starve since I not only planned ahead for this timeframe, but all the adults in my house have pretty good jobs. There are 4 of us. Even my husband's job, which is potentially in danger now, is one where we are comfortable he can find a new one rather quickly for what he does. The job he just left for his current is willing to take him back at any time.

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[ALiberalModerate]

It's estimated that around 1 in 25 people are sociopaths and completely lack a conscience. I think that stat holds pretty well when you look at the worldview of some of our posters on this forum.

 

[Napoleon]

Simple question. Are you willing to go hungry during a depression, so that a handful of immunocompromised coronavirus patients can live a little bit longer (before dying of something else)?

27% of those who test positive require hospitalization in Ohio. 15 have died but 223 others are hanging in there right now thanks to the availability of medical treatment. At peak, Ohio is expecting between 6,000-8,000 new cases per day. We’re not talking a handful of people. Thousands may die as hospitals are overwhelmed and possibly hundreds of thousands if we don’t maintain social distancing policies. Those lives shouldn’t be sacrificed just because first world Fran doesn’t want to eat rice and beans.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

27% of those who test positive require hospitalization in Ohio. 15 have died but 223 others are hanging in there right now thanks to the availability of medical treatment. At peak, Ohio is expecting between 6,000-8,000 new cases per day. We’re not talking a handful of people. Thousands may die as hospitals are overwhelmed and possibly hundreds of thousands if we don’t maintain social distancing policies. Those lives shouldn’t be sacrificed just because first world Fran doesn’t want to eat rice and beans.

You see the kind of crap some people say and you wonder how in the hell do they sleep at night, I guess just fine though, which is the problem.

 

[CaughtInThe]

It's estimated that around 1 in 25 people are sociopaths and completely lack a conscience. I think that stat holds pretty well when you look at the worldview of some of our posters on this forum.

And it's really easy to see who they are when things get a little stressful. They can't help but show us their true selves.

 

[AmNat]

I think we need to change the name of the 'pro-life' people to the 'lets us pick and choose who lives' people..

Let me guess, you support abortion?

It's not just those immunocompromised who will die. We are going to overwhelm our medical system if we dont take that into account. That will cause others who would have been treatable to die too. And those people matter to others.

I'm not going to starve since I not only planned ahead for this timeframe, but all the adults in my house have pretty good jobs. There are 4 of us. Even my husband's job, which is potentially in danger now, is one where we are comfortable he can find a new one rather quickly for what he does. The job he just left for his current is willing to take him back at any time.

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27% of those who test positive require hospitalization in Ohio. 15 have died but 223 others are hanging in there right now thanks to the availability of medical treatment. At peak, Ohio is expecting between 6,000-8,000 new cases per day. We’re not talking a handful of people. Thousands may die as hospitals are overwhelmed and possibly hundreds of thousands if we don’t maintain social distancing policies. Those lives shouldn’t be sacrificed just because first world Fran doesn’t want to eat rice and beans.

Has the mass casualty doomsday scenario come true in any country? Has any country experienced more deaths from coronavirus than it experiences in any given week in the normal course of things?

During the HIV panic, we saw the same "OMG it's exponential! We're all gonna die" hysteria that we're seeing now. Real viruses don't work that way, and the case rate has become linear or sublinear in every country that's been a "hotspot" for more than a few weeks.

It's estimated that around 1 in 25 people are sociopaths and completely lack a conscience. I think that stat holds pretty well when you look at the worldview of some of our posters on this forum.

You see the kind of crap some people say and you wonder how in the hell do they sleep at night, I guess just fine though, which is the problem.

And it's really easy to see who they are when things get a little stressful. They can't help but show us their true selves.

Thank you for these informative replies! They definitely demonstrate superior virtue, not a lack of reasoning capability!

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Thank you for these informative replies! They definitely demonstrate superior virtue, not a lack of reasoning capability!

If we assume the epidemiological models are correct, then at least 75% of Americans would become infected this year if we continue business as usual. With a 1.2% fatality rate, that would be 2.8 million Americans would die. Are you okay with that?

 

[What if...?]

Simple question. Are you willing to go hungry during a depression, so that a handful of immunocompromised coronavirus patients can live a little bit longer (before dying of something else)?

I won't starve.

And doing what trump resisted and staying home may have bought enough time to get ahead of it a bit.

Are you willing for a busload of kids from a bad accident die because the hospitals were all too full to help them so the stock.market gamblers can keep harvesting capital?

 

[Cardinal]

Simple question. Are you willing to go hungry during a depression, so that a handful of immunocompromised coronavirus patients can live a little bit longer (before dying of something else)?

Just out of curiosity, how do you know you don’t have any undiagnosed issues yourself? Or older relatives? Or relatives with immunocompromised issues or undiagnosed problems?

 

[roguenuke]

Let me guess, you support abortion?





Has the mass casualty doomsday scenario come true in any country? Has any country experienced more deaths from coronavirus than it experiences in any given week in the normal course of things?

During the HIV panic, we saw the same "OMG it's exponential! We're all gonna die" hysteria that we're seeing now. Real viruses don't work that way, and the case rate has become linear or sublinear in every country that's been a "hotspot" for more than a few weeks.







Thank you for these informative replies! They definitely demonstrate superior virtue, not a lack of reasoning capability!

Every country reporting infections has taken steps to mitigate the effects. Those steps have helped reduce the deaths.

And those normal deaths from other things arent just stopping, pausing because of the pandemic. It just adds to how many are dying. So yes, the pandemic is adding to deaths per day for these countries, in some cases increasing their overall numbers of x number of deaths per 10000 people.

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[Cardinal]

If we assume the epidemiological models are correct, then at least 75% of Americans would become infected this year if we continue business as usual. With a 1.2% fatality rate, that would be 2.8 million Americans would die. Are you okay with that?

I don’t think an appeal to a broader concept of humanity beyond himself is going to work here. His question pre-negates any humanitarian concerns.

 

[MSgt]

Simple question. Are you willing to go hungry during a depression, so that a handful of immunocompromised coronavirus patients can live a little bit longer (before dying of something else)?

Oh, there's a far better question to ask:

Conservatives, after years and years of misusing the word socialism to denigrate people in economic need (as if it was always just liberals), will you gladly go ahead and starve rather than accept government assistance now? After all, if you need government assistance, you obviously made bad life choices and don't work hard.

This virus is certainly not affecting me and mine, thus I get to denigrate from a place of convenience.

 

[Helix]

i'm willing to vote against a lying orange turd to piss off his fan club.

 

[jpn]

Simple question. Are you willing to go hungry during a depression, so that a handful of immunocompromised coronavirus patients can live a little bit longer (before dying of something else)?

I remember when conservatives were hysterical about "death panels" that Obamacare supposedly was going to impose on our elderly. (Of course it was a lie, but boy, they were sure worked up).

I remember when the Republican Party was the "pro-life party."

I don't ever remember the Republican Party ever sticking to any of their supposed principles.

 

[jpn]

Are you willing to go hungry during a depression

Thanks to the Democrats, who added almost all the support for workers to the latest aid bill, they won't have to go hungry.

And the provisions added by the Democrats will save countless businesses from going under.

This is what the Democrats added:

Vastly expanded unemployment benefits through June for anyone who’s lost income due to COVID-19.
$100 billion for hospitals.
A change in the “checks for everyone” program to insure that low-income workers get the full $1,200.
Removal of a provision that would have excluded nonprofits that receive Medicaid funding from the small-business grants.
A ban on the Trump family getting aid.
Oversight on the corporate lending facility.
$150 billion for state and local governments.
$25 billion for food stamps.
$30 billion for schools.

Thank you Democrats.

 

[MSgt]

i'm willing to vote against a lying orange turd to piss off his fan club.

Ha! I too see the entertainment value in all of this:

- A fan club, that went from praising its leader for his complacency and denigration towards the media and Democrats to, now, praising its leader for accepting Democrat assistance in creating a social aid package for the needy.

- A fan club, that went from skewing the truth about Bush bail-outs to banks and corporations in 2008 to, now, praising its leader for accepting GOP schemes to cut even more taxes while offering bailouts to corporations.

And underneath this $2 trillion aid package we have a government that has to constantly issue Treasury Bonds to China in order to keep up with its gross overspending and ever increasing reductions in revenue. From Reagan, to Bush, and to Trump, any person can plainly see that finding a "fiscal conservative" is akin to finding Big Foot. Tragic how the wealthiest nation in history still needs to rely on Chinese lending and even a Chinese billionaire's donation of 500,000 test kits. The GOP's routine counterproductive economic practices is exactly why the U.S. consistently proves less-than when it comes to addressing a crisis.

The fan club is a mess and is so easily manipulated because they really have no sense of an ideology anymore. There is only orange leader as he battles "fake news," the "deep state," and other absurd conspiracy theories to save their very souls against the fantasized Left. Logic, reason, and simple common sense need not be pre-requisites to join the cult. In fact, these would be obstacles.