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Are You Willing to Pay $6000 More A Year in Tax?

I agree. We are very satisfied with our HC plan and its benefits relative to cost

-VySky

Because others are subsidizing your costs.
 
Perhaps for their much smaller populations and to a limited extent.

Never been tried for 350,000,000

Eventually you run out of other people's money.

The USA prints it's own money. Can't run out unless the press breaks.
 
House holds the purse strings.

And the budget going to $22T was a R house of 2018.
The new budget, effective Oct 1, 2019, is the D budget. Not yet passed. Glad you cleared that up.
And the R leader, tRUMP, has a veto power.
 

Feel better now? Maybe you'd like to answer my questions?
 

Great, then we could reduce our military costs.

Didn't tRUMP campaign on pulling our troops back stateside? When is that going to happen?
 
And the budget going to $22T was a R house of 2018.
The new budget, effective Oct 1, 2019, is the D budget. Not yet passed. Glad you cleared that up.
And the R leader, tRUMP, has a veto power.

22Trillion would be the debt not deficit.

When was the last time anyone passed a budget? [It was GW in 2006]
 
Feel better now? Maybe you'd like to answer my questions?

Before Trump the Left said the farmers were overly subsidized. Which is it?


BTW where are these price increases I keep hearing about?
Your first question was ignored because it was an off topic attempt at deflection. :naughty

The second, I more than adequately answered.
 
22Trillion would be the debt not deficit.

When was the last time anyone passed a budget? [It was GW in 2006]

Thx. Correct.
Anyway, the budget deficit, contributing to the debt, is from the R house.
And the R leader signed all spending.
He has the veto power.
 
Where has it not failed?

Scandanavia. And if you say they dont have socialism....then I just want more of whatever you call they have
 
Your first question was ignored because it was an off topic attempt at deflection. :naughty

The second, I more than adequately answered.

Like I said don't buy **** from China. Our bills haven't increased.
 
I don't.

Why do you want me to pay for your bills?

Have you ever had a car accident or your home hurt by a storm. When you use your insurance someone else is helping you pay the bill. You wonder why home insurance has gone up in price dramatically in the past 20 years, because we are all helping to pay for the storm damage caused by the stronger and larger storms hitting the USA in that time. So as you get older your health insurance will have to cover more expensive bills and others will be helping to pay them. It is the way insurance works and in the end heath care is all paid in some ways by insurance, probably including yours. Believe it or not the government health insurance like Medicare is less costly than private. One reason is the cost of administration. With Medicare it runs about 6.5% and for private it runs between 25 and 28%.
 
Because we're tired of paying for your bills.
If you aren't paying your fair share, someone else is doing so.

You haven't paid a dime of my bills.
 


Did you subtract the insurance premiums ? See, it's not about "taxes" without considering "total individual expenditures"

Did you factor in the fact that with UHC you won't to stress on health care, you won't have to stress out as to whether or not your private insurance will be there for you in your hour in need in the event of a catastrophic illness, when insurers are famous for finding some thing on your application that disqualifies you, or your health care solution is "experimental" when it is the only hope for your survival?

It is paid for the same way it is paid for in all of those countries, NOTING that their per capita costs are roughly half of what they are in the US.

How? See, health care dollars are already being spent, and medicare for everyone ( who wants it ) merely redirects money already being spent into a more efficient system.

There will be a tax, but it will be less than the aggregate premiums being paid that medicare will replace, for the average person, the costs will only be higher for those who can easily bear the burden, the affluent.
 

I don't stress about healthcare. I enjoy what I have

-VySky
 
I don't.

Why do you want me to pay for your bills?

Taxation is a collective thing. No one pays directly for anyone's anything. The share of your taxes for someone else's health care might only be a fraction of one cent, if you really want to look at it directly, which is a specious way to look at it.

If that is how you are reasoning, as a person who make laws, you'll never achieve a socially just society. You'll just be a libertarian and society will go to hell. Libertarianism is founded on specious reasoning.
 
I don't need anyone paying my bills. I do just fine.

Perhaps you should have done like I did and ensure that you can pay YOUR bills on your own, eh? Then we wouldn't need to spread your costs around around to me.

Did you send your kids to private schools?

No matter, taxation pays for public schooling, and I don't see anyone declaring bankcruptcy for it, as we do for private health care.
 
I don't need anyone paying my bills. I do just fine.

Perhaps you should have done like I did and ensure that you can pay YOUR bills on your own, eh? Then we wouldn't need to spread your costs around around to me.


That is the kind of reasoning used by libertarians.


In the forest, there are dandelions and sunflowers. Ask a libertarian, and the dandelion should become a sunflower if that dandelion wants more sunshine in a crowded forest where the sunflowers are hogging most of it.


Well, dandelions cannot become sunflowers, it's just nature. People are the same way. Some are very able, some aren't.


Libertarians/conservatives want to make policy based on how they think people should act or become and dems make policy based on how people are.


This is why a libertarian society would be a very cruel one. As a social democrat ( a capitalist social democrat ) I reject that philosophy with every fiber in my being, and will fight to the day I die to render conservatism/libertarianism to the dustbin of history where it belongs.
 
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Conservatives encourage people to take responsibility for themselves. Liberals encourage people to depend upon the government to take care of themselves.

You can go ahead and fight to enslave people...I'll fight to allow people to make their own choices.
 
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