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Discrimination is fine.....until it affects you.
Where did that come from? LOL!
Discrimination is fine.....until it affects you.
You are fine with companies choosing to discriminate against women that want birth control.....because it will never affect you in your school district. As soon as something might affect you.....trust me you will be the first to file a suitWhere did that come from? LOL!
You are fine with companies choosing to discriminate against women that want birth control.....because it will never affect you in your school district. As soon as something might affect you.....trust me you will be the first to file a suit
I look at the posts about the dems and Ginsburg being responsible for abortions. Do you actually think that there were no abortions before Roe, or that there were fewer abortions, then you do not know history. There have been abortions since forever and the number will never really be known as poor families and the rich as well did not tell people as it violated the laws in every state in the union. The only real thing that Roe did was make it safer for women to get one as they could go to a real doctor and have it done. Just so you know I am a Catholic and against abortion as that is what my religion says I must be. Should my or your beliefs be the ones that run this country and all of the women. And do you think that outlawing abortions again will stop them any more than it did before Roe? And now I hear that the religious right wing want to once again outlaw contraceptives. Won't that help the situation?
It would cost you a ton to get insurance on your own and you would not even complain?I just gave you a scenario of what would greatly affect me in terms of my school insurance and said I'd just get new insurance. What have I ever said that leads you to believe I wouldn't get new insurance, but I'd be the first one in line to file a lawsuit against the district? Please show your work.
It would cost you a ton to get insurance on your own and you would not even complain?
I'm not buying it
You are making my caseIt would also cost me a ton to change districts. So....
Okay? So have you.
oh, no doubt. all Americans have benefitted from the things that liberals fought for. women and minorities especially.
Yes. The question here is --- why do you keep bringing it up to me, specifically?
Some of the larger states, like MI and SD, only have one facility now and their residents go elsewhere because it's closer.which all takes time. so women, after Republicans get enough Justices to overturn it, will have decades and decades of pissed off women who have seen their choice taken away by the CentGov.
oh, and you're welcome for allowing you to wear a bikini if you want.
What greater statement is there than changing the law to suit one's religious agenda? Catholics and evangelicals have been making abortion and women's contraceptives less and less accessible in all conservative states ever since Roe. With any new development in abortion technology and /or women's contraceptives religious conservatives initiate massive efforts to make them illegal or limit availability to the public. Is there any reason to expect this behavior to cease when their religious belief is that contraception is against God's plan? If you want a public statement go to the mission and vision statements of individual sects.Why are you telling me about insurance coverage? I asked about his statement about the religious right wanting to outlaw contraceptives.
Care to explain what you consider women's duty and obligation?Abortion further cheapens life and is the epitome of selfishness. Liberals have absolutely zero concept of duty and obligation.
Especially long term forms. Those types are the most reliable. Many bcp are rendered ineffective for the remainder of the month if you inadvertently miss one pill.Making abortion illegal will not stop women from having an abortion.
The true solution is to keep abortions legal but make birth control accessible and child care accessible for those in need so that abortions are unnecessary unless the woman or unborn has a medical condition that puts their life or long term health in grave danger.
Sadly, sex education and accessible birth control, which might make for fewer abortions, are things that many opponents of abortion find themselves opposing as well. Witness Rush Limbaugh’s idiotic rant against a woman who testified in favor of birth control being included in health insurance. Clinton said it best about abortion, it should be “safe, legal, and rare.”Making abortion illegal will not stop women from having an abortion.
The true solution is to keep abortions legal but make birth control accessible and child care accessible for those in need so that abortions are unnecessary unless the woman or unborn has a medical condition that puts their life or long term health in grave danger.
What about people whose religious beliefs have them opposed to transfusions? Vasectomies? Capital punishment? Is their religious liberty harmed by financing such things publicly?Okay. That affects women who CHOOSE to participate in that insurance plan. Women who CHOOSE to be part of that religious group and school. Do they have no other choices?
Being for religious liberty to not have to pay for some or all birth control through their insurance isn’t stifling any woman’s ability to get birth control. All women in the country have easy access to birth control.
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What social issues?liberals are always wrong on the Social issues front.
Btw, those who would have Roe v Wade overturned, who goes to jail in proposals to outlaw abortions? Would you penalize the doc, the head of the clinic, nurses and attendants, whom? Is there any draft legislation out there one can refer to?What social issues?
There arent any. He just made it up.You've been asked at least twice about this statement. Who are these "religious right wing" people who want to outlaw contraceptives?
you mean special rights at the expense of everyone else. See, problem is social liberalism is a copout and cowardice. Let's take it to its logical conclusion and abolish ALL criminal laws, OK? There's social liberalism for ya.
We should let insurance companies cover or not cover whatever they want. It’s their company. They will also suffer the consequences when no one chooses their plan because they refuse to cover certain things. Just like the article you posted. No one is forcing women to take certain insurance plans. No one is restricting women from birth control. Don’t like an LDS insurance plan that covers no birth control? Don’t choose it.
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are you a woman?
yes.....
then you, and people like you, have benefitted massively more (from liberal change) than people like me (i'm a white, male landowner with coin).
Of course. But would you be saying "you're welcome that you can wear a bikini" to a pro-choice woman like weaver or Scrab?