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You make a lot of far out claims you can't back up. That the Biblical Jesus never existed is one of them.
You have belief, not facts.
Well, the points I make for that are the ones you clutch to as your axioms, so they certainly would not register with you.
Do you know what apologetics means? His "minimal facts" approach is not convincing. Is that all he's got? Minimal, indeed. Obviously, the author is a believer, just like you. Find another source from a non-believer. The Jesus story is a story just like any other of the many god stories that men have written. This guy has only demonstrated how little there is as far as facts when it comes to Jesus.
Here is a critique of Habermas's "brilliant" minimal facts "proof":
The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus by Gary Habermas and Michael Licona (Review)
You don't have any FACTS that the Biblical Jesus isn't true, but you go on ad mauseum with that folly anyway.
Nuts. Here's an example of the worthless arguments made in your link:
Quote: "Second, the willingness of the early apostles to die for their faith also means nothing, for a very simple reason: people of many other religions believed so strongly that they were willing to die for their false beliefs, too. Jews were willing to die for their belief that Yahweh didn’t want them to eat bacon.3 The early Muslims were willing to die for their beliefs, for example Sumayyah bint Khubbat and Husayn ibn Ali – to say nothing of modern suicide bombers. Thousands of adherents to Bábism (an offshoot of Islam) were put to death for their faith in the 1840s.4 Hundreds of Bahá’ís have been executed for their faith.5 Martyrdom for Vahiguru is a central practice of Sikhism. There have been martyrs for Zoroastrianism, Jainism, Scientology, paganism, Shintoism, and many other faiths. Martyrdom around the world shows the strong appeal of blind belief, not the actual truth of what is believed."
The reason THAT REASONING is faulty is because those people given as examples (Muslims, babism, Baha'i, Vahiguru, Sikhism, etc.) died BELIEVING THEIR BELIEFS WERE REAL, not false. They may have turned out to be false by pundits later, but they died believing their beliefs were true.
The apostles died for what they believed was true, and no one has yet to demonstrate their beliefs were false.
Here's another farce: "(3) (the Gospels) are internally contradictory, (4) and are contradictory between sources, too."
Give me your best ONE (1) example. Just ONE. And don't give me a half-baked laundry list. Just pick out the ONE (1) best example you have. Cite the scriptures involved. And make sure it deals with one of the central tenets of the faith, rather than some largely unimportant issue.
And for the record, all four Gospels, plus various epistles, confirm the resurrection.
Dying for any belief is not a proof of the validity of the belief.
Where's your example that I requested from my previous post? Do you just make claims without backing them up?
WHy, yes, i do. I know it is physically impossible to walk on water, turn water into wine without time, yeast and grapes, or rise from the dead. That is all that is needed to show that the Gospel Jesus didn't exist.
What's mathematically impossible is your bizarre belief in abiogenesis.
Tell me, what are my beliefs about abiogensis and how are you calculating the odds??? Can you show that the calculations you claim are correct?? Show what the odds are, and how you arrived at the number, and then show that is the proper calculations. You won't answer of course....
You have been given many examples but you always ignore them. All you have is blind faith.
Right after you show me the scientific studies that prove that God and the supernatural do not and cannot exist.
Right after you show me the scientific studies that prove that God and the supernatural do not and cannot exist.
Right after you show me the scientific studies that prove that God and the supernatural do not and cannot exist.
Right after you show me the scientific studies that prove that God and the supernatural do not and cannot exist.
Science does not study things for which there is zero observable or measurable evidence which can be tested objectively.
Still waiting on your best one (1) example from this post:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/philo...od-w-352-a-post1066686221.html#post1066686221
Do you ever research these issues on your own or just parrot what you pull off some anti-Christianity website? I've given away over 400 research books on the Gospels, etc. You should be true to yourself and do some legitimate research because your eternity depends on it.
Still waiting on your best one (1) example from this post:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/philo...od-w-352-a-post1066686221.html#post1066686221
Do you ever research these issues on your own or just parrot what you pull off some anti-Christianity website? I've given away over 400 research books on the Gospels, etc. You should be true to yourself and do some legitimate research because your eternity depends on it.
I would say there is no way to successfully answer if there is or isn't a god or gods. I do not believe that the answer to that question is one that is important for us to discover or one that people should spend so much of their time thinking or worrying about.
There is nothing to research. I don't need books or websites to tell me the obvious.
You know, the more I learned in college the more things I found out I didn't know. But that doesn't mean I didn't learn a great deal.
You haven't done your homework on the subjects of Christ and the New Testament, and you profess to know about it - that it's bogus? That's an absolute farce to make that leap of logic.