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Are you a liberal?

Are you liberal in thought and action or part of the center or the right

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 76.7%
  • No

    Votes: 7 16.3%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 7.0%

  • Total voters
    43
Are white supremacists terrorists?
That depends on the definition of domestic terrorist group you're using, which seems to be an issue that there is widespread disagreement on. Those clowns tend to be more about hating blacks and minorities than rioting, looting, attacking police as well as innocent people and displaying an utter disregard for authority of any kind. If one of these groups (you were vauge on which specific group, my guess is you did it intentionally knowing you) partakes in any of these mentioned, as Antifa does, then they absolutely are a domestic terror group.

Spewing hatred and bigotry doesn't make a group a domestic terror group. Acting on that hatred through violent means does make that group a domestic terror group.
 
I don't have any friends who are of the modern liberal/progressive stripe. I have zero tolerance for illogical nincompoopery. I would rather swim in a hot tub full of badgers than break bread with a liberal.
 
I'm a leftist.

"Liberal" is a very US-centric term and in the European sense means "Neo-Liberal", which basically sums up most of the GOP and a big chunk of the Democratic Party. Only the Bernie Sanders/Liz Warren-wings of the Democrats can be considered leftists. The Biden wing I would describe as Neo-Liberal too.
 
Sure they're not...

Okay. You got me.

Antifa operates from underneath a volcano, led by our fearsome Queen, AOC. We can cling to plate glass windows. We stomp up and down the underside of your staircase every night. We all have a union card signed personally by George Soros. We will settle for nothing less than absolute anarchy. Or a Hot Pocket. One or the other.
 
I don't think many people are all one way. I consider myself a progressive more than a liberal.
I'm no Liberal. I have a mind and can think critically. I am able-bodied and I expect to provide for myself and my family and not live off a government subsidy. And because I believe it is MY job to provide for myself and my family I believe it is my every right to keep 90%+ of my income vs. having it confiscated by an immoral government.
 
I'm no Liberal. I have a mind and can think critically. I am able-bodied and I expect to provide for myself and my family and not live off a government subsidy. And because I believe it is MY job to provide for myself and my family I believe it is my every right to keep 90%+ of my income vs. having it confiscated by an immoral government.
So, how is it when your beliefs crash into reality or do you somehow manage to keep ninety percent of your earned income?

Are you one of those folks who would rather see our government being run by the true patriots who visited the capitol on january the sixth?
 
I am a bit to the right of the below, mostly in the center.
You have mistakenly taken the classical definition of "liberal" and misconstrued it to refer to political "liberals." They aren't even close to having the same meaning. Leftist filth who call themselves "liberal" having been doing so since the 1960s in order to try to hide their socialist and communist ideology. Since the 1990s the truly hardcore leftist filth have taken to calling themselves "progressive." These are the Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot wannabes of this world, and have absolutely nothing to do with being progressive.

You are either very politically naive, or intentionally trolling, I haven't figured out which yet.
 
You have mistakenly taken the classical definition of "liberal" and misconstrued it to refer to political "liberals." They aren't even close to having the same meaning. Leftist filth who call themselves "liberal" having been doing so since the 1960s in order to try to hide their socialist and communist ideology. Since the 1990s the truly hardcore leftist filth have taken to calling themselves "progressive." These are the Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot wannabes of this world, and have absolutely nothing to do with being progressive.

You are either very politically naive, or intentionally trolling, I haven't figured out which yet.
:rolleyes:
 
You have mistakenly taken the classical definition of "liberal" and misconstrued it to refer to political "liberals." They aren't even close to having the same meaning. Leftist filth who call themselves "liberal" having been doing so since the 1960s in order to try to hide their socialist and communist ideology. Since the 1990s the truly hardcore leftist filth have taken to calling themselves "progressive." These are the Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot wannabes of this world, and have absolutely nothing to do with being progressive.

You are either very politically naive, or intentionally trolling, I haven't figured out which yet.

Here's where glitch assigns us attributes so he can continue demonizing people over things that exist only in his head.
 
That depends on the definition of domestic terrorist group you're using, which seems to be an issue that there is widespread disagreement on. Those clowns tend to be more about hating blacks and minorities than rioting, looting, attacking police as well as innocent people and displaying an utter disregard for authority of any kind. If one of these groups (you were vauge on which specific group, my guess is you did it intentionally knowing you) partakes in any of these mentioned, as Antifa does, then they absolutely are a domestic terror group.

Spewing hatred and bigotry doesn't make a group a domestic terror group. Acting on that hatred through violent means does make that group a domestic terror group.

Which is why federal agencies have listed white nationalist terror groups as the gravest domestic terror threat.

But not Antifa. Wonder why.
 
You have mistakenly taken the classical definition of "liberal" and misconstrued it to refer to political "liberals." They aren't even close to having the same meaning. Leftist filth who call themselves "liberal" having been doing so since the 1960s in order to try to hide their socialist and communist ideology. Since the 1990s the truly hardcore leftist filth have taken to calling themselves "progressive." These are the Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot wannabes of this world, and have absolutely nothing to do with being progressive.

You are either very politically naive, or intentionally trolling, I haven't figured out which yet.

Hitler was a right wing fascist. 🤣
 
That depends on the definition of domestic terrorist group you're using, which seems to be an issue that there is widespread disagreement on. Those clowns tend to be more about hating blacks and minorities than rioting, looting, attacking police as well as innocent people and displaying an utter disregard for authority of any kind. If one of these groups (you were vauge on which specific group, my guess is you did it intentionally knowing you) partakes in any of these mentioned, as Antifa does, then they absolutely are a domestic terror group.

Spewing hatred and bigotry doesn't make a group a domestic terror group. Acting on that hatred through violent means does make that group a domestic terror group.


You claim Antifa are domestic terrorists but white nationalists are not. White nationalists are responsible for the murder of millions of people. Antifa has never killed anyone. Your position is clearly intended to apologize for white nationalists.

One would expect your position to be held exclusively by the targets of Antifa. If I meet someone and they make your claim, that Antifa are domestic terrorists and white nationalists are not, I put them in the box. The "no doubt" box. I consider what you just did to be a tell. A no grey area tell. Encountering it, the subject is labeled and I move on.
 
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You claim Antifa are domestic terrorists but white nationalists are not. White nationalists are responsible for the murder of millions of people. Antifa has never killed anyone. Your position is clearly intended to apologize for white nationalists.

One would expect your position to be held exclusively by the targets of Antifa. If I meet someone and they make your claim, that Antifa are domestic terrorists and white nationalists are not, I put them in the box. The "no doubt" box.

I consider what you just did to be a tell. A no grey area tell.
"White nationalists" aren't a group per se, similar to Antifa. White nationalists are a set of groups, some worse than others. Antifa is a set of groups, some worse than others.

I don't recall ever reading about white nationalists being responsible for the deaths of millions of people. Perhaps you are confusing white nationalists with socialists or communists? Can you provide links to where white nationalists are responsible for millions of deaths?

And yes, members of Antifa has killed people, recently even, but I didn't mention anyone killing anyone, I mentioned violence. Do you need me to send you links to Antifa violence?

 
"White nationalists" aren't a group per se, similar to Antifa.

That's convenient bs. White nationalists have murdered millions of people. But you want us to demonize the people who oppose them and have never killed anyone. Your agenda is obvious.
 
It doesnt matter what you call yourself, what matters is if you vote D or R in elections.

Let's me real, there's no other viable option. There's no wishy washy bullshit in elections.
 
That's convenient bs. White nationalists have murdered millions of people. But you want us to demonize the people who oppose them and have never killed anyone. Your agenda is obvious.
So you have links to where millions of people have been murdered by white nationalists or do we chalk this up as another lie?

I'm not the one with an agenda here. White nationalists are scum and I've never said otherwise.
 
Spare us the nazi file dump, Red.
I have no idea what a nazi file dump is. If you're alluding to Antifa not being violent, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
 
"White nationalists" aren't a group per se, similar to Antifa. White nationalists are a set of groups, some worse than others. Antifa is a set of groups, some worse than others.

I don't recall ever reading about white nationalists being responsible for the deaths of millions of people. Perhaps you are confusing white nationalists with socialists or communists? Can you provide links to where white nationalists are responsible for millions of deaths?

And yes, members of Antifa has killed people, recently even, but I didn't mention anyone killing anyone, I mentioned violence. Do you need me to send you links to Antifa violence?


Is this the part where people have to pretend HITLER WAZ A SOCIALIST is a serious argument?
 
Is this the part where people have to pretend HITLER WAZ A SOCIALIST is a serious argument?

No, this is the part where we recognize the murders committed by and in the name of white nationalists and accept white nationalists are a terrorist group.

However, a rag tag unorganized gaggle of college students that protest nazis is not a terrorist group.

Attempting to turn the table on that reality is support of nazis. The fundamental claim inherent to "Antifa is a terrorist organization" is "white nationalists are not terrorists". That's what is being pushed. Clear support of nazis.

White nationalists are terrorists. Who can't say that. Show me someone that claims white nationalists are not terrorists and I'll show you a sympathizer.
 
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That's convenient bs. White nationalists have murdered millions of people. But you want us to demonize the people who oppose them and have never killed anyone. Your agenda is obvious.
He thinks there are good people on both sides.
 
Two things:
1 - you say "some". Some is not most and it's clearly not all. But you paint with a very broad brush which you shouldn't be doing.
2 - who are these politicians saying that it was just "tourist roaming the Capitol halls"?

Who is the leader of the GOP and where is the evidence that this leader says he loves those who attacked the Capitol building on 1/6?
Let's start with Rep. Paul Gosar, Rep. Ralph Norman, and Rep. Andrew Clyde who said, out loud, in public: “Let me be clear, there was no insurrection and to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie. Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures. You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from January 6, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.”

Trump tells Fox: "These were great, peaceful people and there was love in the air!"​

 
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