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Is that where they hold you underwater until you come around to their way of thinking?Yes or No
My older sister had to do the Southern Baptist "full dunk" baptism.Is that where they hold you underwater until you come around to their way of thinking?
I remember that line from a comedian. I can't for the life of me remember which one.My older sister had to do the Southern Baptist "full dunk" baptism.
As a former diver, I too have done the “full dunk” but it was by choice with no external aids.My older sister had to do the Southern Baptist "full dunk" baptism.
I am not and therefore voted no. I am not even sure what a Baptist is other than I think it’s one of the sects of Christianity that is occasionally battling it out with the other sects. Are these the folks that dunk people in water at churches? I remember attending a few of those as a kid and not really understanding what was going on.
My personal experience was/is they like to yell more, and louder, thump their bibles harder while doing so as they strut back and forth across the stage, and make damned sure if you don't toe the hardcore Southern Baptist theological line ( such as it is ) --- off to the lake of fire and eternal damnation after drawing your last earthly breath. - All in all, such a soothing, peaceful, loving message to convey to an impressionable young child.I have heard a lot of talk about "southern Baptists". Are they that different ideologically from other kinds of Baptists, or just that they live geographically in the south?
Ugh, no.Yes or No
My personal experience was/is they like to yell more, and louder, thump their bibles harder while doing so as they strut back and forth across the stage, and make damned sure if you don't toe the hardcore Southern Baptist theological line ( such as it is ) --- off to the lake of fire and eternal damnation after drawing your last earthly breath. - All in all, such a soothing, peaceful, loving message to convey to an impressionable young child.
When I attended the Southern Baptist Church, it was between 1953 and 1963, before the Civil Rights Act was passed. Blacks weren't allowed to go into the building at all, and the so-called "Pastor" was very prone to using the "N" word. --- Full disclosure: My paternal grandfather was a Deacon at the Southern Methodist Church, a town judge, and a big shot in the KKK. He took myself and my two brothers to a KKK initiation/cross burning 'ceremony' in 1957 when I was 4 years old on a huge piece of property he owned in rural SE Ok.Interesting. I was just looking this up, and learned that Southern Baptists separated from the northern Baptists before the Civil War, around 1845, over the questions of whether slavery was acceptable. The southern Baptist believed that slavery was OK and even proscribed by scripture:
"[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts."
-Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States of America.
"There is not one verse in the Bible inhibiting slavery, but many regulating it. It is not then, we conclude, immoral."
-Rev. Alexander Campbell, 1861
"The right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example."
-Rev. R. Furman, D.D., Baptist, of South Carolina, 1861
"... under the same protection as any other species of lawful property...That the Ten Commandments are the word of G-d, and as such, of the very highest authority, is acknowledged by Christians as well as by Jews...How dare you, in the face of the sanction and protection afforded to slave property in the Ten Commandments--how dare you denounce slaveholding as a sin? When you remember that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Job--the men with whom the Almighty conversed, with whose names he emphatically connects his own most holy name, and to whom He vouchsafed to give the character of 'perfect, upright, fearing G-d and eschewing evil' (Job 1:8)--that all these men were slaveholders, does it not strike you that you are guilty of something very little short of blasphemy?"
-MJ Raphall, 1861
They have more recently apologized for this position. So I guess rather than just generally being louder and generally more socially conservative than their Northern cousins, I am not sure there is ideologically that big a difference between them anymore:
“ The Southern Baptist Convention has tried before to atone for its past. The denomination began in 1845 when it split from Baptists in the North over slavery. ”
Oldest Institution of Southern Baptist Convention Reveals Past Ties to Slavery (Published 2018)
The 71-page report is a recitation of decades of bigotry, directed first at African slaves and later at African-American citizens.www.nytimes.com
And, unfortunately, this abomination still exists.When I attended the Southern Baptist Church, it was between 1953 and 1963, before the Civil Rights Act was passed. Blacks weren't allowed to go into the building at all, and the so-called "Pastor" was very prone to using the "N" word. --- Full disclosure: My paternal grandfather was a Deacon at the Southern Methodist Church, a town judge, and a big shot in the KKK. He took myself and my two brothers to a KKK initiation/cross burning 'ceremony' in 1957 when I was 4 years old on a huge piece of property he owned in rural SE Ok.
Was brought up fire and brimstone Southern Baptist until the age of 11, also went to Southern Methodist at times, switched to/baptized Lutheran; am an atheist.
Interesting. I was just looking this up, and learned that Southern Baptists separated from the northern Baptists before the Civil War, around 1845, over the questions of whether slavery was acceptable. The southern Baptist believed that slavery was OK and even proscribed by scripture:
"[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts."
-Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States of America.
"There is not one verse in the Bible inhibiting slavery, but many regulating it. It is not then, we conclude, immoral."
-Rev. Alexander Campbell, 1861
"The right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example."
-Rev. R. Furman, D.D., Baptist, of South Carolina, 1861
"... under the same protection as any other species of lawful property...That the Ten Commandments are the word of G-d, and as such, of the very highest authority, is acknowledged by Christians as well as by Jews...How dare you, in the face of the sanction and protection afforded to slave property in the Ten Commandments--how dare you denounce slaveholding as a sin? When you remember that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Job--the men with whom the Almighty conversed, with whose names he emphatically connects his own most holy name, and to whom He vouchsafed to give the character of 'perfect, upright, fearing G-d and eschewing evil' (Job 1:8)--that all these men were slaveholders, does it not strike you that you are guilty of something very little short of blasphemy?"
-MJ Raphall, 1861
They have more recently apologized for this position. So I guess rather than just generally being louder and generally more socially conservative than their Northern cousins, I am not sure there is ideologically that big a difference between them anymore:
“ The Southern Baptist Convention has tried before to atone for its past. The denomination began in 1845 when it split from Baptists in the North over slavery. ”
Oldest Institution of Southern Baptist Convention Reveals Past Ties to Slavery (Published 2018)
The 71-page report is a recitation of decades of bigotry, directed first at African slaves and later at African-American citizens.www.nytimes.com