Are Trump supporters afraid of black people?

[Dacke]

Not all trump supporters are racists, but most racists are trump supporters.

Is that really true though?

 

[smallvoice]

The dodge is that you avoid making the case to begin with that the "black demographic" doesn't care enough about themselves in the first place such that needs they care more about themselves which you imply they don't, or even try. You can't prove any of what you say. You provide no evidence. Your claims are therefor unfounded for lack of proof that is your burden and need not be debated further by your opposition, me. See you on another thread.

Open the newspaper, read how they treat each other. Its not open for debate. It's plain as day.

 

[smallvoice]

Well, to be fair Republicans, as a whole are afraid of people of color because they tend to vote against them. That's why there's such an effort to suppress their vote.

Got any documentation that supports your specious claim?

 

[smallvoice]

I would guess then that most Trump supporters should care more about themselves because Trump has shown He doesn't care about them, they don't benefit any more than ever before from Trump, yet keep supporting Him so they must not care much about themselves to do with, at least, health and economics.

That's certainly an ignorant interpretation of the facts you stated. Are you trying to convince yourself? That will not work with thinking people.

 

[Dacke]

The kind of selfless tribalism that this thread emobdies is the exact reason people should not bother with politics. The OP is trying to argue that the people who support the guy they do not like are in fact racist (i.e. evil). But, the thing that makes racism so evil is the exact same thing found in the generalisation about Trump-supporters being racists.

This kind of political fanboy-ism is just pathetic.

 

[Ginza]

Trump supporters are certainly not afraid of black people.

Democrats are certainly afraid of losing the black vote.

 

[Ginza]

Well, to be fair Republicans, as a whole are afraid of people of color because they tend to vote against them. That's why there's such an effort to suppress their vote.

They are not afraid of black people. Many just feel that black people could contribute more to the good of America than they do.

 

[lurchadams]

They are not afraid of black people. Many just feel that black people could contribute more to the good of America than they do.

Why do you think that black people tend not to vote for Republicans?

 

[post]

They are not afraid of black people. Many just feel that black people could contribute more to the good of America than they do.

"Many just feel...", "could contribute more ", LOL ! ...and those who've locked the gates and barred the doors, will be the judge of who have satisfied your "demands"? They've been to college, earned their degrees, but ..... waiting, still waiting, since at least 1908.... follow the money!

Arbeit Macht Frei !

Opinion | The peril of valuing celebrity over history - The New York Times
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Yet, speaking of history, this conjuring of the appearance of opposition where none actually exists has been mandated by the American political system since the onset of the Cold War. The quadrennial political puppet show, highlighting not opposition but its appearance, is essential to keeping the captive-taking war machine running and to inoculating the American people from the viral knowledge that they themselves were first to be captured.....
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...Sinclair Lewis, for his part, showed how the simultaneously banalizing methods of capitalist enterprise (false advertising, consumerism, pieties of affluence, amoral bureaucracy) are exactly what that enterprise created to keep from being criticized. ...
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If "they" just be seen and not heard, and are willing to wait patiently.....

Alpha Kappa Alpha - Wikipedia
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority

The sorority was founded on January 15, 1908, at the historically black Howard University in Washington, D.C., by a group of sixteen students led by Ethel Hedgeman Lyle. Forming a sorority broke barriers for African-American women in areas where they had little power or authority due to a lack of opportunities for minorities and women in the early 20th century.[6] Alpha Kappa Alpha was incorporated on January 29, 1913.

One of the largest historically African American Greek-letter organizations consisting of college-educated women of many diverse backgrounds from around the world, the sorority serves through a membership of more than 300,000 women in 1,024 chapters in the United States and several other countries.[3] ...

Why Do Boards Have So Few Black Directors?
Why Do Boards Have So Few Black Directors?

Why Do Boards Have So Few Black Directors?

by J. Yo-Jud Cheng , Boris Groysberg and Paul M. Healy

August 13, 2020

.....The underrepresentation of Black professionals is especially bleak in the highest echelon of corporate America: boards of directors. Although newly-appointed directors are increasingly diverse, 37% of S&P 500 firms did not have any Black board members in 2019 and Black directors comprised just 4.1% of Russell 3000 board members that same year. In light of these persistent racial inequities, Reddit’s co-founder and executive chairman of the board, Alexis Ohanian, recently stepped down, stating: “I’ve resigned as a member of the Reddit board, [and] I have urged them to fill my seat with a Black candidate.” Reddit has since appointed its first Black board member: Y Combinator CEO Michael Seibel.

..To answer those questions, we draw upon a survey we previously conducted of over 1,000 U.S. board directors between 2015-2016. We note that only 24 of our survey respondents identified as Black/African American, reflecting our own shortcomings in engaging a diverse set of survey respondents as well as the state of board diversity in the U.S. today. Our small sample size necessitates that we be careful in interpreting our results....

Interviews with 59 Black Female Executives Explore Intersectional Invisibility and Strategies to Overcome It
Interviews with 59 Black Female Executives Explore Intersectional Invisibility and Strategies to Overcome It

....Black women continue to be sorely underrepresented in leadership roles in corporate America. Currently, they make up 12.7% of the U.S. population, yet they represent only 1.3% of senior management and executive roles of S&P 500 firms, 2.2% of Fortune 500 boards of directors, and in a post-Ursula Burns world, there is not a single black female CEO in the Fortune 500.

...

The Fed - Distribution: Distribution of Household Wealth in the U.S. since 1989

 

[TurtleDude]

So you deny the obvious?

I deny that Trump supporters are more racist than Biden supporters.

 

[TurtleDude]

"Many just feel...", "could contribute more ", LOL ! ...and those who've locked the gates and barred the doors, will be the judge of who have satisfied your "demands"? They've been to college, earned their degrees, but ..... waiting, still waiting, since at least 1908.... follow the money!

Arbeit Macht Frei !



If "they" just be seen and not heard, and are willing to wait patiently.....





The Fed - Distribution: Distribution of Household Wealth in the U.S. since 1989

what is your solution to prosperous and industrious people becoming wealthier? as long as investments make money, those of us who make more than we spend will increase our wealth

 

[TurtleDude]

Is that really true though?

Of course not, he supports the party that decreed the VP choice had to meet a racial litmus test

 

[post]

what is your solution to prosperous and industrious people becoming wealthier? as long as investments make money, those of us who make more than we spend will increase our wealth

You're joking, right?

"what is your solution to prosperous and industrious (WHITE) people becoming wealthier?"

Female, black activist billionaires need to raise awareness of.... oh, wait! They are as rare as hen's teeth !

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Admit it is endemic in the United States and sincerely, immediately resolve to end systemic racism.... in the executive suites and board rooms of the Fortune 500 corps., and proceed from there. It has never even been attempted!

Alpha Kappa Alpha - Wikipedia
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority

The sorority was founded on January 15, 1908, at the historically black Howard University in Washington, D.C., by a group of sixteen students led by Ethel Hedgeman Lyle. Forming a sorority broke barriers for African-American women in areas where they had little power or authority due to a lack of opportunities for minorities and women in the early 20th century.[6] Alpha Kappa Alpha was incorporated on January 29, 1913.

One of the largest historically African American Greek-letter organizations consisting of college-educated women of many diverse backgrounds from around the world, the sorority serves through a membership of more than 300,000 women in 1,024 chapters in the United States and several other countries.[3] ...

Why Do Boards Have So Few Black Directors?
Why Do Boards Have So Few Black Directors?

Why Do Boards Have So Few Black Directors?

by J. Yo-Jud Cheng , Boris Groysberg and Paul M. Healy

August 13, 2020

.....The underrepresentation of Black professionals is especially bleak in the highest echelon of corporate America: boards of directors. Although newly-appointed directors are increasingly diverse, 37% of S&P 500 firms did not have any Black board members in 2019 and Black directors comprised just 4.1% of Russell 3000 board members that same year. In light of these persistent racial inequities, Reddit’s co-founder and executive chairman of the board, Alexis Ohanian, recently stepped down, stating: “I’ve resigned as a member of the Reddit board, [and] I have urged them to fill my seat with a Black candidate.” Reddit has since appointed its first Black board member: Y Combinator CEO Michael Seibel.

..To answer those questions, we draw upon a survey we previously conducted of over 1,000 U.S. board directors between 2015-2016. We note that only 24 of our survey respondents identified as Black/African American, reflecting our own shortcomings in engaging a diverse set of survey respondents as well as the state of board diversity in the U.S. today. Our small sample size necessitates that we be careful in interpreting our results....

Interviews with 59 Black Female Executives Explore Intersectional Invisibility and Strategies to Overcome It
Interviews with 59 Black Female Executives Explore Intersectional Invisibility and Strategies to Overcome It

....Black women continue to be sorely underrepresented in leadership roles in corporate America. Currently, they make up 12.7% of the U.S. population, yet they represent only 1.3% of senior management and executive roles of S&P 500 firms, 2.2% of Fortune 500 boards of directors, and in a post-Ursula Burns world, there is not a single black female CEO in the Fortune 500.

...

Is this really so difficult to understand? If almost none of your members have networking access, via their fellow members, to the premier business opportunities, or to the opportunity to "fast track" at investment banks, etc., how will there ever be equal opportunity to accumulate wealth and influence?

Just pretend there is an "Oprah opportunity", around every corner?

Prince Hall Freemasonry - Wikipedia
Prince Hall Freemasonry is a branch of North American Freemasonry for African Americans founded by Prince Hall on September 29, 1784.... Prince Hall Freemasonry is the oldest and largest (300,000+ initiated members) predominantly African-American fraternity in the nation.[1] .....

 

[jaypatriot]

No, and a terrible poll.

There is a difference between being afraid of a demographic and simply not caring about that demographic. Republicans generally speaking fall into the latter.

Just how should Republicans care about black people?
Are they supposed to go out and meet as many black people as possible in order to appear open and inclusive?
Or are they just supposed to live their lives and treat every person with equal respect and courtesy just like a decent human being would behave?

 

[TurtleDude]

You're joking, right?

"what is your solution to prosperous and industrious (WHITE) people becoming wealthier?"

Female, black activist billionaires need to raise awareness of.... oh, wait! They are as rare as hen's teeth !

no answer I see.

 

[jaypatriot]

I would guess then that most Trump supporters should care more about themselves because Trump has shown He doesn't care about them, they don't benefit any more than ever before from Trump, yet keep supporting Him so they must not care much about themselves to do with, at least, health and economics.

Any person who would depend on someone in the White House to care about them has some real self-confidence issues that will not be solved by electing a Joe Biden or a Kamala Harris.
Politicians are in it to win it and want to stay in power as long as humanly possible.
And anyone who believes a politician when he/she says they "care " about people is naive and a perfect target for the Democratic Party that wants to put as many people under their care and control as they possibly can.

 

[jaypatriot]

Biden now has two black friends. Not too shabby for a guy who spent most of his adulthood living behind fences.

Don't forget Michelle who says she always goes high when others go low.
Maybe now she likes this country after 8 years in the White House.

 

[jaypatriot]

As a party, I would agree...the GOP doesnt much care about 'Black people". The GOP policies are not built to target "black people". Or "brown people". Or "white people". The GOP policies are built to provide opportunity for ALL people. But you are correct in saying that GOP politicians dont speicifcally target black people for political opportunities.

Why should they?

The black American community votes as a bloc for the democrat party and has since the 1920s. There is no real value in investing campaign capital to attract votes you are unlikely to get. This was a message Malcolm X tried to address to black American voters way back in 1964. It didnt take.

But...you arent REALLY foolish enough to believe that the rat party 'cares' about black Americans, are you? The rat party has controlled every major city in this country for NUMEROUS decades...in some cities that goes all the way back to the 1800s. The rat party controls mayors offices, city councils, district attorneys offices, police departments, education system, economic development...and in EVERY instance they have destroyed the black American family and community. The only thing that the rat party as an entity cares about with regard to black Americans is their vote.

Well, they certainly don't care about enforcing laws in their own cities when radicals are burning buildings and attack police.

 

[post]

Don't forget Michelle who says she always goes high when others go low.
Maybe now she likes this country after 8 years in the White House.

no answer I see.

How dare you... this is what you pretend is your sincere effort to hold up your end of an actual discussion?

 

[TurtleDude]

How dare you... this is what you pretend is your sincere effort to hold up your end of an actual discussion?

how dare you? WTF? you never answered an easy question. You seem to whine about the rich getting richer. I don't see that as a problem and I see preventing that from happening as very deleterious to the country.

 

[post]

how dare you? WTF? you never answered an easy question. You seem to whine about the rich getting richer. I don't see that as a problem and I see preventing that from happening as very deleterious to the country.

If the majority of my posts.... and the "white grievance" movement's posts in this forum certainly are... were framed in this flavor of messaging, I would at least make a better effort to mask my false indignation. IOW, if you "scapegoat" concentrated wealth and the influence it purchases, it is not scapegoating, but when you do the following, (and you do!)....

‘Welfare Queen’ Becomes Issue in Reagan Campaign - The New York Times
‘Welfare Queen’ Becomes Issue in Reagan Campaign
Feb. 15, 1976

WASHINGTON, Feb. 14—Few people realize it, but Linda Taylor, a 47‐year‐old Chicago welfare recipient, has become a major campaign issue in the New Hampshire Republican Presidential primary.

The Washington Star

Former Gov. Ronald Reagan of California has referred to her at nearly every stop, using her as part of his “citizens’ press conference” format.

“There's a woman in Chicago,” the Republican candidate said recently to an audience in Gilford, N.H., during his freeswinging attack on welfare abuses. “She has 80 names, 30 addresses, 12 Social Security cards and is collecting veterans’ benefits on four nonexisting deceased husbands.” He added:

“And she's collecting Social Security on her cards. She's got Medicaid, getting food stamps and she is collecting welfare under each of her names. Her tax‐free cash income alone is over $150,000.”

Mr. Reagan never mentions the woman by name. But the effect is the same wherver he goes. During his second campaign swing through the state last month, for example, he startled people in Dublin and Jaffrey and Peterborough and Salem and in all the other little towns where he appeared. They were angry at “welfare chislers.” Mr. Reagan had hit a nerve.

 

[AlphaOmega]

just wondering why the deplorables are so racist. Are uneducated working class white males, that is really trumps base, afraid of black people. Just curious.

I always love it when racists expose themselves by starting threads like this. How long have you been spewing racism for?

 

[Luther]

No, and a terrible poll.

There is a difference between being afraid of a demographic and simply not caring about that demographic. Republicans generally speaking fall into the latter.

There is a difference between being afraid of a demographic and simply not caring about that demographic.

And pray tell how the ones who supposedly care about Black(Democrats) people are doing?

Take your time(LOL)

 

[Rickeroo]

This question is like being asked why I'm afraid of jumping in an ice-cold lake by a person standing on the shore in a winter coat.

 

[Jonsa]

Given that blacks are seven times as likely to commit murder as white people, do you think such fear is unwarranted?

Yep totally unwarranted. More whites kill whites than blacks kill blacks or whites. So being afraid of blacks because their murder rate is higher than whites is really just seeking some excuse to justify bigotry.