Are the Trump tax only for the rich?

[Conservative]

Tax revenues by year,

FY 2019 - $3.42 trillion. (.08 increase)
FY 2018 - $3.34 trillion. (.02 increase)
FY 2017 - $3.32 trillion. (.05 increase)
FY 2016 - $3.27 trillion. (.02 increase)
FY 2015 - $3.25 trillion. (.24 increase)
FY 2014 - $3.02 trillion. (.25 increase)
FY 2013 - $2.77 trillion. (.32 increase)
FY 2012 - $2.45 trillion. (.15 increase)
FY 2011 - $2.30 trillion. (.14 increase)
FY 2010 - $2.16 trillion. (.06 increase)
FY 2009 - $2.10 trillion. (.42 decrease)
FY 2008 - $2.52 trillion. (.05 decrease)
FY 2007 - $2.57 trillion.

https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762



Job creation rankings by president,

#1 Bill Clinton
#3 Ronald Reagan
#4 Jimmy Carter
#6 Barack Obama
#13 Donald Trump

https://www.thebalance.com/job-creation-by-president-by-number-and-percent-3863218

First of all 2018 isn't being reported yet, second 2019 is a projection but even the projections show revenue growth if that even matters, why is it so important for the federal govt. to take more tax dollars from the taxpayers vs. letting the taxpayers keep the money in the states where the states and local governments can solve their own social problems? what makes you think a bureaucrat in D.C. that helped create the current 21 trillion dollar debt deserves more money?

Now on the jobs issue, is a part time job the same as a full time job? Is a job lost that returns a job created? Your numbers aren't in context and here is the context

When the recession began there were 146 million Americans Employed, Obama's stimulus was signed in February 2009 and employment went down to 138 million by the end of the year thus a loss of 8 million jobs from the high point. Those jobs came back in 2014 so were those jobs created or returning? by the end of the Obama term there were 152 million Americans working thus 6 million more people employed 10 years later and you call that job creation?

I cannot believe how easy it is to indoctrinate people and how poorly educated people are with regards to data. Do you know what a part time job for economic reasons is?? Those are people who wanted full time jobs but couldn't find one in the Obama economy. These are people who are employed thus skewing the data favorably for you but those jobs are lower paying and lower taxed jobs which impact revenue. Now let's see if this sinks in

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12032194
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level - Part-Time for Economic Reasons, All Industries
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Hours at work: 1 to 34 hours
Reasons work not as scheduled: Economic reasons
Worker status/schedules: At work part time
Years: 2008 to 2018

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 4846 4902 4904 5220 5286 5540 5930 5851 6148 6690 7311 8029
2009 8046 8796 9145 8908 9113 9024 8891 9029 8847 8979 9114 9098
2010 8530 8936 9233 9178 8845 8577 8500 8800 9246 8837 8873 8935
2011 8470 8464 8645 8652 8576 8427 8281 8788 9166 8657 8447 8171
2012 8305 8238 7775 7913 8101 8072 8082 7974 8671 8203 8166 7943
2013 8151 8178 7722 7964 7937 8103 8099 7816 7764 7936 7718 7827
2014 7302 7304 7451 7516 7260 7425 7400 7169 7007 7031 6885 6817
2015 6820 6693 6653 6622 6643 6386 6234 6411 6025 5807 6159 6027
2016 5960 6021 6099 6027 6491 5751 5898 5977 5893 5955 5719 5554
2017 5776 5670 5500 5309 5268 5264 5236 5209 5148 4880 4851 4915
2018 4989 5160 5019 4985 4948 4743 4567 4379 4642 4621 4802

 

[Conservative]

I think you're referring to the Debt Bush generated as the deficits in Obama's first term were generated by the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, the Bush Tax cuts, and the recession itself. All of which began under Bush and ended under Obama. Once Obama fixed all of Bush's messes he reduced the deficit each of the last four years of his Presidency.

I think you better learn how to research data and explain to us how a war that ended in 2008 is still being paid for in 2012? I cannot believe how poorly educated far too many people are. the Iraq War was paid for during the years Bush was in office, you don't defer those kind of expenses and regardless of what is on budget or off budget still goes to the deficit. Where are you getting your information?

You keep believing what you are told and keep destroying what little credibility you have. This thread is about the Trump tax cuts and the results generated which you want to ignore. Why? what is so great about giving the bureaucrats more money and taking it out of the state and local communities?

 

[holbritter]

Well, I just completed my taxes for the 2018 tax year.

My income was pretty much the same year to year- only about a 2% increase year over year. Poor me!

My Federal Taxes owed reduced by 22%. Refund was down a bit. Taxes withheld for the year were down about 17%. I got a little more in every paycheck and still got a refund of about the same size: down 5% year over year.

Thank you, President Trump!

I've read posts from many of the Never Trumpers here that the tax cuts were only for "The Rich". I'm am decidedly NOT in that group of folks and yet I got a 22% cut in taxes.

As we all do our taxes here, how about we all post our personal experiences and outcomes?

Might be interesting to review the real world facts as opposed to the partisan hackery that has dominated the conversation through the year after the Trump Tax Cut was signed into law.

Estimates of Federal Tax income are that it will increase by 192 billion this year over last. The increase last year was 129 Billion and the year before that was 164 Billion.

The 192 Billion increase is the biggest one since the jump logged in 2009 based on the 2008 economy. In 2011, Federal Tax Revenue actually dropped.

I paid less and the Feds get more. Sounds pretty good! More work of the guy with the magic wand.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/federal-receipt-and-outlay-summary

I got about the same amount of refund as well. Plus the extra $50 in my paycheck when the cuts were made. I appreciate the little extra money I'm getting. I know it's not much to some.

 

[chad]

First of all 2018 isn't being reported yet, second 2019 is a projection but even the projections show revenue growth if that even matters, why is it so important for the federal govt. to take more tax dollars from the taxpayers vs. letting the taxpayers keep the money in the states where the states and local governments can solve their own social problems? what makes you think a bureaucrat in D.C. that helped create the current 21 trillion dollar debt deserves more money?

Now on the jobs issue, is a part time job the same as a full time job? Is a job lost that returns a job created? Your numbers aren't in context and here is the context

When the recession began there were 146 million Americans Employed, Obama's stimulus was signed in February 2009 and employment went down to 138 million by the end of the year thus a loss of 8 million jobs from the high point. Those jobs came back in 2014 so were those jobs created or returning? by the end of the Obama term there were 152 million Americans working thus 6 million more people employed 10 years later and you call that job creation?

I cannot believe how easy it is to indoctrinate people and how poorly educated people are with regards to data. Do you know what a part time job for economic reasons is?? Those are people who wanted full time jobs but couldn't find one in the Obama economy. These are people who are employed thus skewing the data favorably for you but those jobs are lower paying and lower taxed jobs which impact revenue. Now let's see if this sinks in

Personally would you agree for America to do the following things,

To tax all American workers at a tax rate that allows them to afford life's necessities (and for full time workers to have the money for a few perks, like a modest yearly vacation or cable television.)

For no American wealthy or poor to be punished by a overly high tax rate, and where no American looses the honest benefits of their work from taxes.

For welfare to be reformed so all Americans who need it get it, along with using non-stressful methods to get welfare receipts working. And reform that stops all people from getting welfare if they don't need it.

For all government waste to be eliminated.

For all Americans to have access to (basic) medical care and cost effective prevention measures (with able bodied/mined non-workers not receiving the same coverage as someone who works.)

To limit Americas military spending to the amount the next 3 most powerful countries spend combined.

To not allow excessive hazardous pollution (being a little dirty while not giving people cancer or birth defects.)


Would you agree to 100% of the above things being done?

 

[Tbird19482]

Personally would you agree for America to do the following things,

To tax all American workers at a tax rate that allows them to afford life's necessities (and for full time workers to have the money for a few perks, like a modest yearly vacation or cable television.)

For no American wealthy or poor to be punished by a overly high tax rate, and where no American looses the honest benefits of their work from taxes.

For welfare to be reformed so all Americans who need it get it, along with using non-stressful methods to get welfare receipts working. And reform that stops all people from getting welfare if they don't need it.

For all government waste to be eliminated.

For all Americans to have access to (basic) medical care and cost effective prevention measures (with able bodied/mined non-workers not receiving the same coverage as someone who works.)

To limit Americas military spending to the amount the next 3 most powerful countries spend combined.

To not allow excessive hazardous pollution (being a little dirty while not giving people cancer or birth defects.)


Would you agree to 100% of the above things being done?

Chad you have covered about everything the Dems want and He is a right winger a Trumpett
and they would rather see large Corporations like GE make Billions in US Profits and NOT pay a cent in US Income taxes and have the Hard working Middle class pay their way.
I don't know just what he made a year but I have been retired for over 10 years and I am getting sick and tired of paying MORE in US Income taxes then GE has
They make hundreds of Millions of dollars IF Not BILLIONS of dollars in US Profits and I have paid MORE in US Income taxes in a lot of years then They did.
They didn't pay any NOT ONE CENT in US Income taxes and got tax Benefits in a lot of years and I have had to pay Income taxes on my SS and retirement
I have to ask these morons is that FAIR?
I worked for over 55 Years paid into my retirement and the SS system and I pay MORE in US Income taxes then ( in 2017 ) 42% of ALL US Corporations that are making OVER a million dollars a year if NOT several BILLION dollars a year in US Profits.
Instead of Trump giving them a tax cut where according to the GAO over 65% of all US Corporations making OVER a million dollars a year will now NOT pay even ONE cent in US Income taxes.
Maybe IF Trump and the Republicans had actually Given the Hard working middle class people a real tax cut and eliminated some of the deductions the large Corporations get and then cut their Taxes it would have been a fair tax cut
But they didn't
Have a nice night

 

[code1211]

I don't think anyone said they were ONLY for the rich. The only thing that was said that vast majority of the benefit goes to the rich. You were given some cuts too for sure, to keep you voting right... but the main benefit of course goes to families like Trumps. They will get a windfall you can only dream of... See how it works out nicely - you are fooled and they get most of the benefit.

I can't really impact the amount of tax paid or not paid by another. If another guy is paying 10 times what I pay, I expect that any benefit from a cut will will amount to that much more for him.

You seem to be begrudging the rich a greater benefit.

Are you also aggrieved by the greater burden they bear both before and after the tax cut?

 

[code1211]

And the kicker will come later - when all the accrued debt from the resulting deficits has to be repaid. Wonder who will have to pay that? Trumpists or the middle class?

I'm pretty sure this will be handled by the enlightened plans of the Socialists in control. When was the last time we heard any of our politicians use the words "personal responsibility" during their campaign speeches?

Regarding the debt, we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. A guy driving drunk has a drinking problem. If we do not address the real problem, we'll never solve the real problem.

This is not a call for draconian cuts in spending. It's an observation that our law makers are doing the most stupid things often and doing the right things in the most stupid ways.

 

[code1211]

The Trump tax cuts do the following,

Raise low income workers after-tax income by 0.8%
Raise middle class Americans after-tax income by 1.5%
Raise the richest 1% of Americans after-tax income by 13.5%
Raise the richest 0.1% of Americans after-tax income by 14.2%

And in total the Trump tax cuts give 47% of their benefits to the richest 1% of Americans.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetn...to-richest-1-new-analysis-finds/#1ccb08765b9d


Trumps tax cuts also abolished the Estate Tax (a tax that only effects the richest 0.2% of Americans.) And for example, Trumps Estate Tax changes will give Donald Trumps own family an extra $2.8 billion dollars.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...mps-proposed-tax-cuts-are-his-kids-2017-09-28


And Trumps tax cuts change in the year 2027. At that time 53% of lower income Americans Americans will be forced to pay higher taxes, and then richest 1% of Americans will receive 83% of the Trump tax cuts.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ax-bill-congress-conference-tax-policy-center

Sounds like propaganda.

Have you submitted YOUR taxes yet?

What was the impact of the tax cuts on your tax liability?

 

[code1211]

Obama's policies added about $2.2 trillion dollars to our national debt during his time in office.

Obama added $2.7 trillion dollars to our national debt from 2013-2022 by extending 82% of the Bush tax cuts.
Budget Deal Makes Permanent 82 Percent of President Bush

And Obama added $831 billion dollars to our national debt with his 2009 stimulus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009


The other $7 trillion dollars added to our debt during Obama's time in office was caused by the Bush administrations Iraq/Afghanistan wars, GW Bush's tax cuts that took place when Obama first entered office, increased spending by GW Bush (Bush increased spending by 48.6%), and federal subsidies started by GW Bush, ex.ex.

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Report: Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cost almost $5 trillion so far
https://www.mercatus.org/publication/spending-under-president-george-w-bush
Do Crony Handouts Have a Stranglehold on the GOP?

This is really amusing.

Did Obama actually do anything while in office?

 

[code1211]

Again YOU want to start Obama's debt total on the day he took office
and He like every other President does NOT take over the Debt and the Budget till Oct first of the year he takes office
Obama did NOT run the debt up 9.3 Trillion for the time he was responsible for the debt
on Oct 1 of 2009 the debt was
11,920,519,164,319.42
and I will give you a couple of days
on Oct 2 of 2017 it was 20,347,802,336,477.80
a difference of 8,427,283,172,158.38
and Trump ran it up ( and I am taking it from Oct 2 , 2017 to Sept 28th 2018 NOT Oct 1 2017 to Sept. 30th 2018) and it was 1,168,255,846,702.43 ( 4 days short of a full Fiscal year)
and as of Jan 29 Trump has run it up 1,625,528,664,944.90
That is in one year 4 Months and that is in a " good " economy
IF he keeps this up he will by pass Obama IF he stays in office for 8 years as it is he is well on the way to by passing Obama's first 4 years.
In Trumps first year and 4 months he has already almost equaled Obama's first fiscal year
and that was 1,651,794,027,380.22
Obama's second fiscal year it went UP 1,228,717,297,665.18 A lot less then Trump's first Fiscal year ( and if you take the 457,272,818,242.47 and X it by 3 you get 1,364,748,454,727.41) so add what Trumps first two fiscal years could be iF he keeps going the way he is and you get 2,533,004,301,429.84 and Obama's first two years were a total of 2,870,411,325,045.94 just a little over 347 Billion short of Obama's debt for two years.
We will have to see what he does but it looks like he will by pass Obama in no time

all info on here came from the US Treasury website
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/d...tYear=2009&endMonth=10&endDay=02&endYear=2017
Have a nice day

That's interesting.

That time line indicates that Obama policies had nothing to do with the end of the Great Recession.

Did Obama do ANYTHING that benefitted ANYONE?

 

[code1211]

Donald Trump became president on January-20-2017, and on that day the national debt was $19.9 trillion dollars.
https://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/...=20&startYear=2017&endMonth=&endDay=&endYear=

And on January-20-2018 the national debt was $20.4 trillion dollars.
https://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/...=20&startYear=2018&endMonth=&endDay=&endYear=

What policies did Donald Trump enact in his first year in office to raise our national debt by $500 billion dollars?
Answer: None. During Trumps first year in office Obama's budget was in place, and Trump did not have the time/ability to add money to the debt. Trump inherited the national debt growth that happened during his first year in office (and Obama inherited national debt growth in a similar way.)



What policies did Obama enact to cause our national debt to rise by $9.3 trillion dollars?


I will start you off answering the above question,

Obama added $2.7 trillion dollars to our national debt from 2013-2022 by extending 82% of the Bush tax cuts. And from 2013-2017 Obama added about $1.6 trillion to our debt by extending the Bush tax cuts.
Budget Deal Makes Permanent 82 Percent of President Bush

Obama added $831 billion dollars to our national debt with his 2009 stimulus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009


What other policies did Obama enact to add the remaining $7 trillion dollars to our national debt?

The debt nearly doubled under Obama.

Them's the facts.

If Obama had nothing to do with it, then that indicates that he had nothing to do with it.

Once again, Obama is defined as being utterly disconnected and worthless as a president.

It seems the one thing that Obama did that benefitted all Americans was leaving office.

 

[code1211]

I can't wait to see what i get back this year.
It is going to be fun and honestly we could use the money for some things to fix the house up.

will spend some to pay off some credit card bills i am sure.

That's pretty much the way I look at it, too.

My refund, by the by, was down a tad, but the paycheck net was up every pay period.

More money for me! Terrific!

 

[code1211]

Please stop with the leftwing rhetoric and bull****, the Iraq Wars were paid for during each fiscal year regardless of what you claim. Further tax cuts aren't an expense and tax cuts grew the economy thus FIT revenue when fully implemented. Not sure why you buy the left wing spin but it is making you look foolish.





You really don't understand the private sector either do you? Start your own business and find out what motivates you, more regulations, higher taxes, penalties for success.

You can try to re-write or justify history but you cannot change it. I am saddened to see how easily it is to indoctrinate people on the left wing ideology where the govt. needs the money more than the tax payers who earned it in the first place. You really have bought into the need for a massive central govt. totally and completely ignoring history and what our Founders created, a small central govt. with part time legislature.

Keep ignoring state and local responsibilities believing that a bureaucrat in D.C. with no term limits is going to meed the social demands in your community where you have leader who you have access to. there is a reason that tax cuts benefit the country and the last year is an example, GDP growth +1.2 trillion dollars, Consumer spending setting records that resonate in coffers of the state and local governments through sales tax revenue and property tax revenues. Charitable giving has also set records so with all that money going to the states why can't they take on their own social responsibilities?

Since Trump entered office, the number of pages in the Federal Registry has decreased by about 35,000 to 40,000 pages. I've seen both published.

Every regulation that is cut back increases the freedoms enjoyed by the general population. Some of these were Obama era regulations that constricted the actions of citizens.

Trump has reduced the amount of regulations that constrict my actions and increased the amount of money I may spend to exercise my newly expanded freedoms.

Sounds like a pretty good time to be alive.

 

[code1211]

You listed the following three sources to show how Obama added $9.3 trillion to our debt, but none of your sources mention deficits or debt.


https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/368904-economists-agree-trump-not-obama-gets-credit-for-economy

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/economic-boom-trump-obama/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpow...-anti-economic-growth-president/#16f1835a48a3



Your above sources talk about Trump growing the economy, raising wages, and raising GDP. And you would argue those events will raise tax revenues and lower our deficits and debt.

But tax revenues have fallen by 0.4% since Trump became president.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-09-14/tax-cuts-are-costing-the-u-s-treasury-money



What policies did Obama enact to raise our national debt by $9.3 trillion dollars?

He was there when it happened.

Bush at least did stuff to increase the debt.

What was it that Obama did? Hiding under the bed wetting his pants whenever an international crisis kicked up does not seem to be that expensive a thing to do.

 

[code1211]

According to the National Review, "The Trump tax cuts are estimated to have reduced federal revenues by roughly $230 billion already, and by $2.3 trillion over ten years."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018...growing-big-spending-fiscal-irresponsibility/

Revenue was the highest total ever posted following Trump's tax Cuts.

Real world references, please.

 

[code1211]

This may shock you but my tax rate is higher than Microsoft's.

Really? Link(s)?

 

[code1211]

Tax revenues by year,

FY 2019 - $3.42 trillion. (.08 increase)
FY 2018 - $3.34 trillion. (.02 increase)
FY 2017 - $3.32 trillion. (.05 increase)
FY 2016 - $3.27 trillion. (.02 increase)
FY 2015 - $3.25 trillion. (.24 increase)
FY 2014 - $3.02 trillion. (.25 increase)
FY 2013 - $2.77 trillion. (.32 increase)
FY 2012 - $2.45 trillion. (.15 increase)
FY 2011 - $2.30 trillion. (.14 increase)
FY 2010 - $2.16 trillion. (.06 increase)
FY 2009 - $2.10 trillion. (.42 decrease)
FY 2008 - $2.52 trillion. (.05 decrease)
FY 2007 - $2.57 trillion.

https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762



Job creation rankings by president,

#1 Bill Clinton
#3 Ronald Reagan
#4 Jimmy Carter
#6 Barack Obama
#13 Donald Trump

https://www.thebalance.com/job-creation-by-president-by-number-and-percent-3863218

 

[code1211]

I think you're referring to the Debt Bush generated as the deficits in Obama's first term were generated by the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, the Bush Tax cuts, and the recession itself. All of which began under Bush and ended under Obama. Once Obama fixed all of Bush's messes he reduced the deficit each of the last four years of his Presidency.

While the debt continued to increase.

 

[code1211]

First of all 2018 isn't being reported yet, second 2019 is a projection but even the projections show revenue growth if that even matters, why is it so important for the federal govt. to take more tax dollars from the taxpayers vs. letting the taxpayers keep the money in the states where the states and local governments can solve their own social problems? what makes you think a bureaucrat in D.C. that helped create the current 21 trillion dollar debt deserves more money?

Now on the jobs issue, is a part time job the same as a full time job? Is a job lost that returns a job created? Your numbers aren't in context and here is the context

When the recession began there were 146 million Americans Employed, Obama's stimulus was signed in February 2009 and employment went down to 138 million by the end of the year thus a loss of 8 million jobs from the high point. Those jobs came back in 2014 so were those jobs created or returning? by the end of the Obama term there were 152 million Americans working thus 6 million more people employed 10 years later and you call that job creation?

I cannot believe how easy it is to indoctrinate people and how poorly educated people are with regards to data. Do you know what a part time job for economic reasons is?? Those are people who wanted full time jobs but couldn't find one in the Obama economy. These are people who are employed thus skewing the data favorably for you but those jobs are lower paying and lower taxed jobs which impact revenue. Now let's see if this sinks in

At some point during the first year of the Obama administration which apparently was the last year of the Bush administration according to some here, the job creation terminology converted from jobs "created" to "created or saved".

Without so much as a surprised look on their collective face, the obedient lap dogs of the press repeated this tripe as if the terminology was always thus.

Amusing is hardly a big enough word.

 

[code1211]

I got about the same amount of refund as well. Plus the extra $50 in my paycheck when the cuts were made. I appreciate the little extra money I'm getting. I know it's not much to some.

Not much to some is the whole key, though.

We don't pay much in taxes with regard to everything we are provided.

The money is being spent by idiots on boondoggles, but that's a different topic. I would rather use the cash myself than finance the idiocy of the professionally incompetent in Washington.

 

[Conservative]

At some point during the first year of the Obama administration which apparently was the last year of the Bush administration according to some here, the job creation terminology converted from jobs "created" to "created or saved".

Without so much as a surprised look on their collective face, the obedient lap dogs of the press repeated this tripe as if the terminology was always thus.

Amusing is hardly a big enough word.

Exactly as the left knows there is no reputable source that can determine if a job is saved or not but to prop their failed economic policies they created the word that makes them feel better about their own failures

 

[charliebrown]

Guys, please understand the government you have. please understand that THE PRESIDENT is a puppet and the machine moves the strings.

Obama was like a woman with an open check book spending money to keep the economy moving thru what should have absolutely been a depression if the government and the fed did not act.

Trump is like a drunk father spending money.

Both Obama and Trump are slaves to Congress. Congress is a slave to special interests.


Whenever one compares numbers from different times, it needs to be compared logically. My wife spends 30K a year on credit card, you wife spends 3K a year on credit card.

My wife spends zero on interest for credit card debt, your wife pays 2K a year on credit card debt.

I make 500K a year, You make 30K a year.

My wife is paying for elaborate gold plated dildos, your wife is paying for food for your 5 children.

I really wish we would stop knitpicking about a specific name and start discussing what our government is taking in and what they are spending that money on.

 

[code1211]

Chad you have covered about everything the Dems want and He is a right winger a Trumpett
and [COLOR="#B22222"]they would rather see large Corporations like GE make Billions in US Profits and NOT pay a cent in US Income taxes

and have the Hard working Middle class pay their way.

I don't know just what he made a year but I have been retired for over 10 years and I am getting sick and tired of paying MORE in US Income taxes then GE has

They make hundreds of Millions of dollars IF Not BILLIONS of dollars in US Profits and I have paid MORE in US Income taxes in a lot of years then They did.

They didn't pay any NOT ONE CENT in US Income taxes and got tax Benefits in a lot of years and I have had to pay Income taxes on my SS and retirement
I have to ask these morons is that FAIR?
I worked for over 55 Years paid into my retirement and the SS system and I pay MORE in US Income taxes then ( in 2017 ) 42% of ALL US Corporations that are making OVER a million dollars a year if NOT several BILLION dollars a year in US Profits.

Instead of Trump giving them a tax cut where according to the GAO over 65% of all US Corporations making OVER a million dollars a year will now NOT pay even ONE cent in US Income taxes.
Maybe IF Trump and the Republicans had actually Given the Hard working middle class people a real tax cut and eliminated some of the deductions the large Corporations get and then cut their Taxes it would have been a fair tax cut
But they didn't
Have a nice night

For your convenience, I've highlighted those parts of your post that are either misinformed statements or outright lies.

The purpose of the tax cuts for corporations is not to give them more money. Corporations are pretty much like any other living thing. They do what benefits them.

The purpose of corporate tax cuts is to provide incentives to locate to or stay in the US instead of elsewhere. This means more jobs, more taxes and more community development by those with the jobs.

The result of the Trump tax cuts is a pretty impressive string of jobs growth reports including more jobs, higher wages and improved household income levels.

Democrats see taxation as a good way to punish success. Trump sees taxation as a needed way to pay for necessities as needed.

 

[charliebrown]

You need to read this article about Jobs much more closely!!!

You cannot compare a president that created 6.6% increase in jobs in 8 years to a 43.3% increase in jobs for 2 years. WTF. Yes, your quote from Orwell is absolutely correct.

PS, if a president created 10M government jobs verses private sector jobs, the he is only benefiting big brother.

Half truths are as deceiving as lies.

 

[code1211]

You need to read this article about Jobs much more closely!!!

You cannot compare a president that created 6.6% increase in jobs in 8 years to a 43.3% increase in jobs for 2 years. WTF. Yes, your quote from Orwell is absolutely correct.

PS, if a president created 10M government jobs verses private sector jobs, the he is only benefiting big brother.

Half truths are as deceiving as lies.

It helps to understand your thoughts if you would please click on "Reply With Quote".