The government should have a program that allows student loan customers to refinance their loans. It is simply not practical to expect that the typical borrower will have the means to refinance a typical debt of $27,000. Even refinancing a tangible asset like a home is not simple these days. Ask Bernanke
Ben Bernanke turned down for mortgage refinancing
Free education, anyone? Let's keep money out of education.So you believe you have the right to do stupid things like borrow more than you can afford to repay, which you do, and the government and the taxpayer has the obligation to make you whole, which they don't.
Your argument is not that the government prevents you from refinancing your loan, but rather that the government should pick up part or all the costs incurred in the refinancing.
Any democrat who wants these chamber of commerce democrats in office.Republicans who would call you a left wing extremist for not supporting so called moderates.
Free education, anyone? Let's keep money out of education.
Well.. With communism.. Hehe.And how do you propose to do that? Buildings must be built, professors and bathroom cleaners must be hired, textbooks must be bought.
Ain't no free lunch. Somebody must foot the bill.
Well.. With communism.. Hehe.
Agreed. The reality is that it is the Democrats who are harming the middle class. They do so with their class warfare schemes. When they make a big play of socking it to the rich, they simply hope that most cannot workout that every time they sock it to the rich....the extra cost runs downhill and squarely hits the middle class in a higher cost of goods and services.
Any democrat who wants these chamber of commerce democrats in office.Republicans who would call you a left wing extremist for not supporting so called moderates.
See?? This is what I'm talking about. It's almost like there's a law that you're not even allowed to discuss income disparity or the middle class or jobs going overseas without the conversation being drowned out by accusations of "communism" or "class warfare" by the forum's conservatives. It's every ****ing thread.
What, are you new here? "Everything bad is because Democrats" is pretty much SOP on this forum.
What, are you new here? "Everything bad is because Democrats" is pretty much SOP on this forum.
Hack thread is very hackish.
"Simplistic" is as far as I would go. Of course if you ask any conservative if they support the middle class they're going to say yes. But if you told them that supporting the middle class would result in corporations or the rich losing something in the bargain you're going to get a very different reaction.
It's like if you asked me if I support legal abortion. I'm going to say yes. But if you then add, "Ah, but what if for every abortion that takes place, a bag of live puppies is thrown into an incinerator?" then I'm probably going to change my vote. So yes, conservatives support the middle class, but only after the interests of the rich/corporations have been met and defended first. Find me a thread showing otherwise if you disagree. But like I already said in the post above yours, that challenge must be solely about rich/business vs. poor/middle class. It can't be framed around liberal vs. conservative, or Obama. It has to be about rich vs. non-rich only.
I guess we define "support" in different ways. Conservatives support the middle class by lowering taxes, and by fostering an economy in which everyone has an opportunity to rise and succeed.
Sure. "From each acording to his own abilities, to each according to his needs"
The trouble is, under that system, there always tend to be more claimed needs than claimed abilities.
Ford invented the Ford because he wanted to drive a big fancy automobile. Not because he wanted to tool around in a little plain aitomobile.
"Simplistic" is as far as I would go. Of course if you ask any conservative if they support the middle class they're going to say yes. But if you told them that supporting the middle class would result in corporations or the rich losing something in the bargain you're going to get a very different reaction.
There is a large difference between being against using one group of people for the benefit of another group of people and being against a whole group of people.
What, are you new here? "Everything bad is because Democrats" is pretty much SOP on this forum.
Right, you're prioritizing the needs of one group over another. I'm not disputing that.
There is a large difference between being against using one group of people for the benefit of another group of people and being against a whole group of people.
Sort of like the libruls screaming racism if Obama is criticised?
So you believe you have the right to do stupid things like borrow more than you can afford to repay, which you do, and the government and the taxpayer has the obligation to make you whole, which they don't.
Your argument is not that the government prevents you from refinancing your loan, but rather that the government should pick up part or all the costs incurred in the refinancing.
It would seem that a significant amount think that Republicans are not against helping the middle class. But I only see Republicans actively trying to destroy the middle class to pump up the rich just a little bit more.
Republican rich worship has reached an all new level and has become something more resembling a religion than an ideology.
Most Republicans live in mobile homes in my experience, yet they tend to want to give everything they can to the most wealthy and ONLY the most wealthy.
What I'd like to know is, "What have Republicans ever done for the middle class?" If they are not against the middle class then what have they actually done, ever?
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