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are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this?

Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

SailaWay said:
you gov has it with more sanders voters not voting for hillary... but in the one above 78minus 10 shows only 68% of sanders voters going for clinton and that in itself would make these polls WRONG unless the republicans are going against trump more than the sanders voters for hillary
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You do realize that millions of people who didn't vote in either primary will vote in the general, yes?
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

Polls can be missing the voters who already saw the election was rigged and these then don't vote.. and trump would get all of these voters since he is the one that the system is RIGGED AGAINST

here is how the polls work

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PRINCETON, NJ -- Only a subset of the total population of citizens in a typical election will actually vote. This subset often has different characteristics than the total population. Thus, the results of a typical election are different than they would be if every citizen actually turned out and voted -- because the people who actually vote are different from the people who don't. If pre-election polls don't take this into account, they run the risk of estimating an election result that will differ from the actual vote on Election Day.

These facts of life have led to more than 60 years of work by Gallup pollsters to perfect the process of scientifically determining ahead of time who is most likely to turn out and vote on Election Day.
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

SailaWay said:
you gov has it with more sanders voters not voting for hillary... but in the one above 78minus 10 shows only 68% of sanders voters going for clinton and that in itself would make these polls WRONG unless the republicans are going against trump more than the sanders voters for hillary
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78 is the percentage Clinton has, not whatever you think it is. Also, how does it make the polls wrong? Sanders supporters aren't the entire world.
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

SailaWay said:
Polls can be missing the voters who already saw the election was rigged and these then don't vote.. and trump would get all of these voters since he is the one that the system is RIGGED AGAINST

here is how the polls work

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PRINCETON, NJ -- Only a subset of the total population of citizens in a typical election will actually vote. This subset often has different characteristics than the total population. Thus, the results of a typical election are different than they would be if every citizen actually turned out and voted -- because the people who actually vote are different from the people who don't. If pre-election polls don't take this into account, they run the risk of estimating an election result that will differ from the actual vote on Election Day.

These facts of life have led to more than 60 years of work by Gallup pollsters to perfect the process of scientifically determining ahead of time who is most likely to turn out and vote on Election Day.
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also the much bigger crowds trump gets over hillary may be showing he will be much better off election day
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

This is like watching 2012 all over again. "Polls are biased ... big crowds ... Romney landslide."
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

SailaWay said:
just as we finally have proof of election rigging like with the leaks out showing the DNC itself was working to stop a certain candidate we may also see this with Polls also

Look at wisc..... the dems had 1.0 mil voting and the repubs had 1.1 mil... sanders won wisc easily over hillary

and new polls out today is showing sanders voters only going to hillary by 60% over trump.... if so and this would be very hard for dems to win wisc

look at mich....1.2 mil voted as democrats and 1.3 mil as republicans


these more voters voting republican than democrat and sanders voters going only 60% more for hillary would then make hillary losing.... This then shows the polls are WRONG
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SaliaWay, why don't you do DP a favor, and secede from this forum?
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

HuangHussier said:
78 is the percentage Clinton has, not whatever you think it is. Also, how does it make the polls wrong? Sanders supporters aren't the entire world.
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POLLS not picking up the people who sees the election as rigged and don't vote..... polls not picking them up and they vote now because they see one knowing it is rigged also and will vote all for him... that will show the polls wrong on election day.. also the much bigger crowds than hillary also may be proving the polls wrong
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

SailaWay said:
POLLS not picking up the people who sees the election as rigged and don't vote..... polls not picking them up and they vote now because they see one knowing it is rigged also and will vote all for him... that will show the polls wrong on election day.. also the much bigger crowds than hillary also may be proving the polls wrong
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Is this even English?
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

TheGoverness said:
SaliaWay, why don't you do DP a favor, and secede from this forum?
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You want him to make like a shepherd and get the flock out of here?
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

Kobie said:
Please stop trying math. You're not very good at it.
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There are three types of people in this world, those who can count and those who can't.
 
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Kobie said:
Is this even English?
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I recognize a lot of the letters, but the way they are put together.....I'm not sure.....
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

SailaWay said:
POLLS not picking up the people who sees the election as rigged and don't vote..... polls not picking them up and they vote now because they see one knowing it is rigged also and will vote all for him... that will show the polls wrong on election day.. also the much bigger crowds than hillary also may be proving the polls wrong
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Donald Trump quotes polls often---the ones that show him winning. Now that polls have turned south for The Donald, some of his supporters call the polls "rigged."
 
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X Factor said:
You want him to make like a shepherd and get the flock out of here?
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I'd rather he make like a baby and head out.
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

SailaWay said:
just as we finally have proof of election rigging like with the leaks out showing the DNC itself was working to stop a certain candidate we may also see this with Polls also

Look at wisc..... the dems had 1.0 mil voting and the repubs had 1.1 mil... sanders won wisc easily over hillary

and new polls out today is showing sanders voters only going to hillary by 60% over trump.... if so and this would be very hard for dems to win wisc

look at mich....1.2 mil voted as democrats and 1.3 mil as republicans


these more voters voting republican than democrat and sanders voters going only 60% more for hillary would then make hillary losing.... This then shows the polls are WRONG
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You didn't include a link so we don't have any reference as to what you are talking about. The lack of punctuation doesn't help but I will try to decode this. First it doesn't matter how many people voted last time. It matters how many voters are registered and how motivated the registered voters are in each party.

Learn how to post please. Start including links. That is as much time as I am willing to spend on this thread.
 
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Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

Kobie said:
I'll just leave this here to be ignored by the OP:

Primary Turnout Means Nothing For The General Election | FiveThirtyEight
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that above ONLY works when there are cross over votes like in ohio in the primary..... the repubs got much more BECAUSE of the cross overs voting...

but lets check the states that did not have cross over voters and one can see still the repubs turned out more

and when it says cannot compare then that crossover type of stuff in primaries makes it not comparable

with wisc and mich NO cross overs and still more repugs voted which can indeed show how the general election will go


BUT still remember to always follow the money... to see bias or crookedness
 
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Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

SailaWay said:
that above ONLY works when there are cross over votes like in ohio in the primary..... the repubs got much more BECAUSE of the cross overs coming...

but lets check the states that did not have cross over voters and one can see still the repubs turned out more

and when it says cannot compare then that type of stuff in primaries makes it not comparable
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Again -- did you read the article? It's a yes or no question.
 
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Kobie said:
Again -- did you read the article? It's a yes or no question.
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I read it and it is wrong in not explaining how the cross over votes makes it not comparable... so then just compare with NO crossover votes and that then shows repugs are voting more than democrats


ohio had the crossover votes

but wisc and mich DID NOT
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

Don't know, don't really care.

Polls only affect the weak.

Only the stupid and/or staggeringly weak (politically) changes their vote because of polls.

Anyone who band wagon hops (votes only for winners) is a political loser and not worth worrying about.
 
Re: are polls Lying to help Hillary? LOOK at Wisc and Mich primary voters to see this

We heard the same whining and complaining from the wussy Republicans and Cons in 2012 when any poll showed Obama up. They cried then 'it's the liberal media', and/or 'it's the liberal pollsters', etc. According to them it always someone else's fault. Well the polls that showed Obama up in 2012 were right. It wasn't 'someone else's fault'. It wasn't a conspiracy. It is easy to see that this year the Trump people are more whiny than the Republicans in 2012. When he loses the conspiracy theories and crying 'fix' will be deafening. Even though Trump firmly puts his foot in his mouth every time he talks, he, nor his supporters will let their Messiah take the blame for his loss. It'll be someone else's fault.

That said polls 3 months a head of election day are pretty useless anyway. Too much can happen in 3 months.
 
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LOOK how suddenly liberal nations are falling... the question is will people wake up before its TOO late?
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Productivity, a sore spot for the U.S. economy over the past few years, has now declined in three straight quarters, according to data released Tuesday.

Productivity in the second quarter unexpectedly fell 0.5%, well below expectations, the Labor Department said. Economists
surveyed by MarketWatch had forecast a 0.3% gain in productivity in the quarter.Productivity is down 0.4% from a year earlier
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couple that with how suddenly liberal america and liberal frances very low GDP scores are dropping even further like a rock
This is showing that liberalism will be stopped world wide..... one way or the other... the more easier way with trump or the very hard way with clinton
 
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