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Are Liberals Patriotic? (1 Viewer)

Are Liberals Patriotic?

  • No

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Yes

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • Yes, I have my stolen 'support our troops' sticker to prove it!

    Votes: 1 11.1%

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ptsdkid

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Enjoy the following passage from Michelle Malkin's book "UNHINGED", so as to get a clearer understanding as to whether liberals are patriotic or not. The entire book points to words and actions that suggest they are not. However, for DP purposes, I will leave you with this single gem by Michelle:


"Screw them"

"Screw them." That's how top liberal blogger, Democratic political strategist, and Howard Dean campaign consultant Markos Moulitsas Zu**** reacted to news of the brutal murders of four Americans--all of them retired war veterans--who had been providing security services in Fallujah in April 2004.

Terrorists ambushed the four civilian contractors. Dragged them from their vehicles. Beat them with bricks and killed them. Burned and mutilated their bodies. Then hung two of the charred corpses from a bridge, whacking them with pipes and chanting anti-American slogans in celebration as video cameras rolled. On his widely-read blog, Daily Kos, Moulitsas--himself a Gulf War veteran, for shame--ranted:

Let the people see what war is like. This isn't an Xbox game. There are real repercussions to Bush's folly.
That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries [sic]. They aren't in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.

The "mercenaries" Moulitsas was referring to were Jerry Zovko, a 32-year-old Army vetweran and bodyguard; Mike Teague, 38, who served in the Army for 12 years and received the Bronze Star for actions in Afghanistan; Scott Helvenston, 38 who joined the Navy at 17 and served his country with the Navy SEALS for 12 years; and Wesley Batalona, a retired U.S. Army Ranger Sgt. 1st Class who served in elite airborne units and saw action in Panama and Kuwait. Teague, Helvenston, and Batalona all had children. The men worked for Blackwater security, a North Carolina company that hires former military personnel to provide security training and guard services and which had a contract with the Pentagon to provide security for convoys that delivered food in the Fallujah area.

These are the honorable Americans whom Moulitsas derided as war profiteers. Whose murders he dismissed with the profane "Screw them."

Don't even get me started on John Murtha's, John Kerry's, and Dick Durbin's outrageous slanderous statements concerning our troops. Methinks the aforementioned passage speaks volumes as to how clear-headed Americans would vote on this patriotism issue.
 
ptsdkid said:
Enjoy the following passage from Michelle Malkin's book "UNHINGED", so as to get a clearer understanding as to whether liberals are patriotic or not. The entire book points to words and actions that suggest they are not. However, for DP purposes, I will leave you with this single gem by Michelle:


"Screw them"

"Screw them." That's how top liberal blogger, Democratic political strategist, and Howard Dean campaign consultant Markos Moulitsas Zu**** reacted to news of the brutal murders of four Americans--all of them retired war veterans--who had been providing security services in Fallujah in April 2004.

Terrorists ambushed the four civilian contractors. Dragged them from their vehicles. Beat them with bricks and killed them. Burned and mutilated their bodies. Then hung two of the charred corpses from a bridge, whacking them with pipes and chanting anti-American slogans in celebration as video cameras rolled. On his widely-read blog, Daily Kos, Moulitsas--himself a Gulf War veteran, for shame--ranted:

Let the people see what war is like. This isn't an Xbox game. There are real repercussions to Bush's folly.
That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries [sic]. They aren't in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.

The "mercenaries" Moulitsas was referring to were Jerry Zovko, a 32-year-old Army vetweran and bodyguard; Mike Teague, 38, who served in the Army for 12 years and received the Bronze Star for actions in Afghanistan; Scott Helvenston, 38 who joined the Navy at 17 and served his country with the Navy SEALS for 12 years; and Wesley Batalona, a retired U.S. Army Ranger Sgt. 1st Class who served in elite airborne units and saw action in Panama and Kuwait. Teague, Helvenston, and Batalona all had children. The men worked for Blackwater security, a North Carolina company that hires former military personnel to provide security training and guard services and which had a contract with the Pentagon to provide security for convoys that delivered food in the Fallujah area.

These are the honorable Americans whom Moulitsas derided as war profiteers. Whose murders he dismissed with the profane "Screw them."

Don't even get me started on John Murtha's, John Kerry's, and Dick Durbin's outrageous slanderous statements concerning our troops. Methinks the aforementioned passage speaks volumes as to how clear-headed Americans would vote on this patriotism issue.

How about a source from where Malkin got this quote?
So you're saying that Markos and Gov. Dean got together and said two words on the whole subject? Then Malkin writes 3 paragraphs of her usual tripe based on two words?

Who said the two words: Dean? Markos? Both? Where? When?

BTW Markos is a US Army vet and a former Republican.

Let the Swift Boating begin!
 
Originally posted by pstdkid:
These are the honorable Americans whom Moulitsas derided as war profiteers. Whose murders he dismissed with the profane "Screw them."
Honorable Americans do not destroy 75% of a city of 300,000 residents. Honorable Americans do not bomb hospitals.

"Screw her!"
 
hipsterdufus said:
How about a source from where Malkin got this quote?
So you're saying that Markos and Gov. Dean got together and said two words on the whole subject? Then Malkin writes 3 paragraphs of her usual tripe based on two words?

Who said the two words: Dean? Markos? Both? Where? When?

BTW Markos is a US Army vet and a former Republican.

Let the Swift Boating begin!


***Reread the entire passage. All your questions are answered within. There are more than two words being spoken by Markos as you will find with the words beginning, "Let the people see what war is like". He said these words on his own widely-read blog...the 'Daily Kos'.

No one cares what Markos did in a former life, there are traitors in both parties; we are most concerned with what he said as being a political stategist for Howard Dean. If you neeed further proof of his unpatriotic behavior, try reading from the Daily Kos, or better yet, to get a comprehensive look into the unpatriotic rants of liberals in general...read Michelle's book.
 
The reality is, I think that Liberals are the ONLY truly patriotic people left in this country.
Why do I say this? Because Patriotism is more than just saying that you "support the troops". A lot of conservatives think that "Patriotism" is waving a flag on the fourth of july, wrapping yourself in the flag to win votes, worrying about flag burning amendments rather than protecting the liberties that the flag represents.
In my opinion, Conservatives confuse Patriotism with loyalty to the president. If anyone says anything against their president they smear them with all types of verbal rhetoric.
Patriotism is love and respect for your country and for all the principles for which it stands. This country has stood for principles of freedom for decade upon decade. We have not always gotten it right but America has always moved forward in expanding freedoms be it the 19th Amendment expanding the right to vote to women or the civil rights movement.
Today, GWB has driven us to the brink of a cultural civil war. We are on the brink, for the first time in this country of trying to pass a constitutional amendment (for purely political purposes) that curtails rights rather than expanding them. We have allowed Cheney/Rumsfield/ et al to forward their 30+ year old agenda to attack Iraq (under false premises) and all the while, the radical right closes their eyes to the immorality of it all, so long as they have a president who will forward their activist agenda against reproductive freedom and gay rights.

Yes, Liberals are patriotic because we love the America that used to be, an America that was as free as other countries of this world. Today, due to GWB and the conservative agenda we can no longer say that we are among the free-est countries of the world. Liberals know that America and its principles are not lost. Liberals are beginning to wake up and recognize that "America" will be lost if the current agenda continues.
 
Originally posted by pstdkid:
to get a comprehensive look into the unpatriotic rants
You are in desperate need of a quick education on the notion of Patriotism.

An American patriot is NOT somebody who supports his government. If that's what the American definition of a patriot were, we would not have been calling George Washington, Samuel Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, James Madison, Thomas Payne, John Hancock and all the rest of them "patriots" would we? Those true patriots were all men who openly advocated revolt against THEIR government. That's what made them American patriots in the first place.

http://www.liberator.net/articles/ClarkGary/AmericanPatriot.html
Now don't you feel better?
 
Originally posted by disneydude:
A lot of conservatives think that "Patriotism" is waving a flag on the fourth of july, wrapping yourself in the flag to win votes, worrying about flag burning amendments rather than protecting the liberties that the flag represents.
Not to mention being loyal to a flag that was made in China!
 
Billo_Really said:
You are in desperate need of a quick education on the notion of Patriotism.

An American patriot is NOT somebody who supports his government. If that's what the American definition of a patriot were, we would not have been calling George Washington, Samuel Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, James Madison, Thomas Payne, John Hancock and all the rest of them "patriots" would we? Those true patriots were all men who openly advocated revolt against THEIR government. That's what made them American patriots in the first place.

Now don't you feel better?


Patriot's? I think you are going to be hard pressed to find patriots in either party anymore. We have partisanship, not patriotism. There is a lot more to it than any answer so far posted. If your comment was correct, then the Civil War was the last great act of Patriotism, and there are those that will disagree with both sides in that particular issue.
No, we have few patriots left that swing either to the right or the left. We do have an excessive amount of partisan's, however.
 
Why even bother voting in these polls?

Are you "Pro or Anti-American? Are Liberals Patriotic?"

These polls aren't patriotic..these polls don't support America. These polls are the exact opposite of everything America stands for.

Forget the Miracle-Gro, manure, and fish emulsion. Shred these polls and use them to fertlize your tomato plants...that's all they're good for.

Me...I'm not voting.
 
I think there are liberals that are patriotic like Joe Leiberman, but sadly I think most put politics and Hate for Presient above their patriotism...I wish it wasn't so.......
 
wow another liberal bashing thread.
 
ptsdkid said:
Are Liberals Patriotic?

Considering many of them mock such notions as patriotism and nationalism,no they are not patriotic.If the liberal democrats in the white house are any indication if any them is patriotic then no they are not patriotic.Considering some of them are globalist then they are not patriotic.If the liberal media is any indication of their patriotism then no they are not patriotic.Patriotism requires loyalty to your country,not to the USA's enemies.
 
jamesrage said:
Considering many of them mock such notions as patriotism and nationalism,no they are not patriotic.If the liberal democrats in the white house are any indication if any them is patriotic then no they are not patriotic.Considering some of them are globalist then they are not patriotic.If the liberal media is any indication of their patriotism then no they are not patriotic.Patriotism requires loyalty to your country,not to the USA's enemies.

To me, being an American patriot means being loyal and defending the priciples this country has stood for -- rule of law, human rights, liberty. It doesn't not necessarily mean being loyals to a particular administration.
 
Originally posted by Hoot:
Forget the Miracle-Gro, manure, and fish emulsion. Shred these polls and use them to fertlize your tomato plants...that's all they're good for.
I can't stand tomatoes!
 

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