And have the radical states of California and New York run the interests of the entire country? No thanks.
One person, one vote. I'm sure that a lot of empty real estate will be sad that it doesn't get to help right wingers win even after a loss anymore, but our hearts will go on.
This is absolutely correct....if the electoral collage is done away with, a few very large population centers will determine the vote and the rest of the country is screwed...
The senate violates "one person one vote".
They aren't elected by popular vote?
Are electors elected by popular vote?
Presidents aren't. That needs to change. Mostly, it just helps right wingers who lost. No thanks.
How so ?
Give me an hypothetical example of what might happen
There are several (democratic) federal states in the world, give an example of the lack of an EC causing the country to be "screwed".
Why does the president need to be chosen by a popular vote and not by electors chosen by the people?
What does that look like?
That's easy....all of the rest of the country outside of a few large population centers will have no say in elections or the direction the country is going.
Politicians running for office would not even bother campaigning in small states with smaller populations...
The electoral collage was the way our founding fathers came up with to insure fairness for all areas of our nation and it works pretty well.
Because get more votes if you want to win. Easy enough.
That's easy....all of the rest of the country outside of a few large population centers will have no say in elections or the direction the country is going.
Politicians running for office would not even bother campaigning in small states with smaller populations because it would not matter to them getting elected......Rhode Island? Vermont??? Citizens in all the other small and/ or less populous states would have no say at all.
The electoral collage was the way our founding fathers came up with to insure fairness for all areas of our nation and it works pretty well.
I would argue that nobody campaigns in RI, Vermont, or any of the flyovers. The point was to REDUCE the influence of states with the highest populated areas, and create a more balanced election.
I think a common proposal is that you break the votes down by district, since a State's EC votes = #Districts + 2 (the 2 coming from the Senators).
So you look district by district, which ever candidate wins that district gets that district's EC vote. The overall popular vote winner of the state then also gets the +2. It's essentially a way to split the EC vote of a state up by the popular vote of said State.
The president doesn't get votes, other than those cast by the electors.
Not after NPV goes into effect
If it won't prevent an incompetent madman from becoming president, then it has outlived its usefulness.
If it won't prevent an incompetent madman from becoming president, then it has outlived its usefulness.
What does net present value have to do with this discussion?
Exactly. Many people do not understand this point. It's important. It's how we got everybody to play ball. There's a minimum of electors for every state at 3. 2 Senators + at least one congressional district/congressman.
Now we're talking about REMOVING the safeguards put in place. I am still curious if people feel that electors are still necessary. I am getting the sense they still are.
One person, one vote. I'm sure that a lot of empty real estate will be sad that it doesn't get to help right wingers win even after a loss anymore, but our hearts will go on.
Because get more votes if you want to win. Easy enough.
And that is why it will into effect, because many bright people like you do not know what it is.
Well it prevented an incompetent madwoman from becoming president. The problem is that the Party just puts up incompetent boobs all the time and folk won't vote 3rd party. And moving to the popular vote doesn't solve that. The problem doesn't like within the EC, the problem lies within the stagnation of the Party. A popular vote does not solve that.
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