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Are edicts that nationalized all residential rental property without compensation constitutional?

Are edicts that nationalized all residential rental property without compensation constitutional?

  • Yes. The government can take control of everything a person has for free

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Government entitles in the USA have summarily seized total control of all residential rental property in the USA, for which those governmental entities have awarded occupancy to people for free.

Not only are the property owners not being compensated for the seizure of their property, the government has gone on to continue to require the property owners provide free maintenance at the owners expensive, while receiving no rent whatsoever.

[h=2]Amendment V[/h]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


NO owner of residential rental property has received any compensation for the government seizure of their property for an indefinitely period of time. Nor does the government in any way provide any guarantee that the property owners will ever receive back rent and there is nothing they can do if not. Few tenants are going to pay half a year or more in rent when they can just move somewhere else.

This seems a clear violation of the Bill Of Rights and the government taking control of people's property without compensation is even one reason given for declaring independence to the degree of going to war against the government over this.

 
Government entitles in the USA have summarily seized total control of all residential rental property in the USA, for which those governmental entities have awarded occupancy to people for free.

Not only are the property owners not being compensated for the seizure of their property, the government has gone on to continue to require the property owners provide free maintenance at the owners expensive, while receiving no rent whatsoever.

[h=2]Amendment V[/h]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


NO owner of residential rental property has received any compensation for the government seizure of their property for an indefinitely period of time. Nor does the government in any way provide any guarantee that the property owners will ever receive back rent and there is nothing they can do if not. Few tenants are going to pay half a year or more in rent when they can just move somewhere else.

This seems a clear violation of the Bill Of Rights and the government taking control of people's property without compensation is even one reason given for declaring independence to the degree of going to war against the government over this.


It takes court action and nobody is willing to do that.
 
It takes court action and nobody is willing to do that.

I have been puzzled as to why. NOTHING like this level of nationalizing private property has even happened before in USA history.

Under the cover of the 24/7 covid 19 bio-terrorism campaign of the richest and most powerful people on earth essentially the entire Bill Of Rights has been erased and replaced with plutocracy - which is what the Democratic Party now demands and pursues.
 
I have been puzzled as to why. NOTHING like this level of nationalizing private property has even happened before in USA history.

That answers your question then.

It is most certainly not constitutional and I can't imagine the extreme circumstances that would require mass nationalization of private property. Maybe if some authoritarian took control and wanted to undergo a large border project perhaps?
 
We own a rental house. Tenant has not paid a penny of rent since April.

Trump just dictated a Moratorium on Evictions until January 1st, 2021.

That means we cannot begin the eviction process until then. The eviction process can take months.

That means we will probably lose close to $20,000 in lost rent by the time we eventually get them out.

We will not be reimbursed for that loss. There will be mayhem when 37 million Americans are forced out of their rental homes.

I sure hope Trump is thinking how he's going to find housing for all of them. (or Biden depending on who gets elected)

Trump’s Eviction Moratorium Could set a Dangerous Precedent [Updated] – Reason.com
 
It takes court action and nobody is willing to do that.

I have been puzzled as to why. NOTHING like this level of nationalizing private property has even happened before in USA history.

If there were any prospect of court action being successful, simple economics tells us it would happen. It doesn't happen because the established consensus is in favor of the confiscatory policies. If the established consensus were not in favor (say Trump had ordered rents charged to his business suspended), it would've been overturned in days.
 
I have been puzzled as to why. NOTHING like this level of nationalizing private property has even happened before in USA history.

Under the cover of the 24/7 covid 19 bio-terrorism campaign of the richest and most powerful people on earth essentially the entire Bill Of Rights has been erased and replaced with plutocracy - which is what the Democratic Party now demands and pursues.

Hmm... that (bolded above) seems to entirely ignore EMTALA which is a federal requirement (unfunded mandate?) to provide medical care goods/services without any compensation forever. The one major difference in the eviction hold mandate is that it is (allegedly) temporary and does not discharge the tenant's obligation to eventually repay the entire cost (or face evection). As with EMTALA, this is likely to cause (force?) landlords to raise the rents of their tenants who are able (and thus legally required) to pay rent.
 
Government entitles in the USA have summarily seized total control of all residential rental property in the USA, for which those governmental entities have awarded occupancy to people for free.

Not only are the property owners not being compensated for the seizure of their property, the government has gone on to continue to require the property owners provide free maintenance at the owners expensive, while receiving no rent whatsoever.

[h=2]Amendment V[/h]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


NO owner of residential rental property has received any compensation for the government seizure of their property for an indefinitely period of time. Nor does the government in any way provide any guarantee that the property owners will ever receive back rent and there is nothing they can do if not. Few tenants are going to pay half a year or more in rent when they can just move somewhere else.

This seems a clear violation of the Bill Of Rights and the government taking control of people's property without compensation is even one reason given for declaring independence to the degree of going to war against the government over this.


What is wrong with you? Either you have no mastery of the dynamic of what you protest, or you do, but pretend not to.

If the property owners were not feeding off the federal government teat, the government would have no authority to temporarily direct (pandemic aggravated national economic emergency) their business decisions with regard to timely tenant rent payments.

Federal Moratoriums | National Low Income Housing Coalition
Federal Eviction Moratoriums - National Low Income Housing ...
22 Jun 2020 - The CARES Act provides a temporary moratorium on evictions for most residents of federally subsidized apartments, including those supported by HUD, USDA or Treasury (Low Income Housing Tax Credit developments) as well a moratorium on filings for evictions for renters in homes covered by federally-backed (FHA, Fannie ...
 
Government entitles in the USA have summarily seized total control of all residential rental property in the USA, for which those governmental entities have awarded occupancy to people for free.

Not only are the property owners not being compensated for the seizure of their property, the government has gone on to continue to require the property owners provide free maintenance at the owners expensive, while receiving no rent whatsoever.

[h=2]Amendment V[/h]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


NO owner of residential rental property has received any compensation for the government seizure of their property for an indefinitely period of time. Nor does the government in any way provide any guarantee that the property owners will ever receive back rent and there is nothing they can do if not. Few tenants are going to pay half a year or more in rent when they can just move somewhere else.

This seems a clear violation of the Bill Of Rights and the government taking control of people's property without compensation is even one reason given for declaring independence to the degree of going to war against the government over this.


Well, here’s the funny about property ownership in this country. 70% of mortgages are backed by the Federal government. And even if/when you pay off that mortgage you’re still just leasing from the government in the form of property taxes. Nobody actually owns property outright in this country except the government.
 
We own a rental house. Tenant has not paid a penny of rent since April.

Trump just dictated a Moratorium on Evictions until January 1st, 2021.

That means we cannot begin the eviction process until then. The eviction process can take months.

That means we will probably lose close to $20,000 in lost rent by the time we eventually get them out.

We will not be reimbursed for that loss. There will be mayhem when 37 million Americans are forced out of their rental homes.

I sure hope Trump is thinking how he's going to find housing for all of them. (or Biden depending on who gets elected)

Trump’s Eviction Moratorium Could set a Dangerous Precedent [Updated] – Reason.com

I'm voting for Trump, but he is an economic illiterate on the same level as Bernie Sanders and that is the worst insult I can think of to hurl at him at the moment. These eviction moratoriums are the most egregious property rights violations I've ever seen, even worse than civil forfeiture.
 
Well, here’s the funny about property ownership in this country. 70% of mortgages are backed by the Federal government. And even if/when you pay off that mortgage you’re still just leasing from the government in the form of property taxes. Nobody actually owns property outright in this country except the government.

Without the liquidity offered to realty buyers through federally backed (subsidized) mortgages, how much lower would residential real estate sell for and how much
lower would rents be in less expensive to purchase, residential units?

We own a rental house. Tenant has not paid a penny of rent since April.

Trump just dictated a Moratorium on Evictions until January 1st, 2021.

That means we cannot begin the eviction process until then. The eviction process can take months.

That means we will probably lose close to $20,000 in lost rent by the time we eventually get them out.

We will not be reimbursed for that loss. There will be mayhem when 37 million Americans are forced out of their rental homes.

I sure hope Trump is thinking how he's going to find housing for all of them. (or Biden depending on who gets elected)

Trump’s Eviction Moratorium Could set a Dangerous Precedent [Updated] – Reason.com

If you did actually own the property, the federal government would have no present ability to bar or delay eviction. It is more likely you are partnered in your property "ownership" with a federally guaranteed mortgage loan.

Separately, Trump's attempted manipulation of a CDC regulation, not even a law passed by congress, is illegal....

From the link in your post :
Trump’s Eviction Moratorium Could set a Dangerous Precedent [Updated] – Reason.com

......As Josh notes, the possible measures listed in the regulation—"inspection, fumigation, disinfection, sanitation, pest extermination, and destruction of animals or articles believed to be sources of infection" are all relatively narrowly targeted policies focused on specific sources of infection, not wide-ranging nationwide regulations that apply regardless of how much danger there is in the particular location. Esjudem generis, a standard canon of legal interpretation, requires that anything in a list of items in a law should be interpreted as being "of the same kind" as other items on the same list. Here, everything on the list seems to be relatively limited in scope. Thus, the regulation only permits narrowly targeted, localized restrictions.
 
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