When those accusations come people with an axe to grind then they are not in any shape or form believable to anyone with intelligence.
Well, you should really not just assume a source is lying and should regard every source with skepticism.
Besides that do you honestly believe that the government is totally incapable of keeping a secret?
Why are you asking that?
What looks like Obama staring at jailbait ass.
To be fair, she isn't jailbait in Brazil nor France for that matter so Sarkozy was free to look at that ass as much as he wanted.
From what I understand the guy made allegations in a youtube video, someone paid him to take a lie detector test and promised more money if he passed. he did not pass.
Not saying that guy was telling the truth, just that it wouldn't surprise me if Obama did do drugs during his political career and had sex with other men. :shrug:
No, I'm really quick to condemn your group because plans are bandied about at all levels of government.
You really have to stop thinking of it as one big group. I mean with David Icke most in the conspiracist community prefer to believe he is speaking in metaphors because otherwise they feel he must be crazy. Some just plain think he is crazy. With Alex Jones some in the conspiracist community believe he is a complete loon. I think if you took all the people who believe in some sort of conspiracy involving JFK or 9-11 and put them in a room you would find large groups thinking others are crazy.
Such divergent views make thinking of each as equally one thing or another ridiculous and irrational.
I work with some government entities and my business is a vendor of the government. We have Mutual Aid agreements to provide our services in an emergency. Without indicating what those services are, I can tell you that the plan is to have us highly involved in supplying a vital resource to the government; AND it means that the community we serve will not be getting this vital resource; it will be supplied by the government under this plan. Why? Because fire, police, and emergency personnel will need the resource to provide essential services. These are just the plans I know about. If someone like you got hold of them, it would be tantamount to market manipulation, martial law, suspension of your "rights" to this resource of which you have none. Etc.. Now, this is where we are now. The plan we arrived at is probably somewhere in the middle of the spectrum of plans and operations presented; some much more radical than a restricting of this resource; and some much more lenient in terms of it's availability through the pipelines. The important part is that it is all plans; never carried out. There are continuation of government plans drawn up all the time? Why--because it's the job of the planners to write them. I don't know what world you inhabit but it's not one thats very realistic in my view.
What exactly are you trying to say with all that? Neither of the things I brought up concern anything of that nature.
Really, please provide an example on how anything points away from the 9/11 Commission Report and how it points in multiple directions.
The 9-11 Commission Report is a series of conclusions that does not include all evidence presented or all evidence that exists. It was intended to point in a certain direction.
And you think it points to only governmental feet wearing the shoes.
That is a possibility, though presuming there was a conspiracy including the U.S. government it more likely would include elements of the government together with elements of other governments and private bodies.
And there are almost no unanswered serious questions about how those prints got there.
You may feel that to be the case, but that does not mean it is the case.
No, they just don't let their imaginations run wild and believe anything said by certain people while discounting everything said by the government.
So are you saying it is not really that easy to expose a conspiracy?
Its a particularly cheavuanistic point of view you have; almost as silly as your "establishment controls everything" nonsense.
I never said anyone controls everything. That is just more of your hyperbole.
By the way, a write-in candidate won a Senate seat. I guess the establishment took the day off on that one--eh? LOL.
If said candidate were not an eight-year incumbent whose father was a Governor you might actually have a point there.
There are some in every crowd. But just because a Pepsi truck runs off the road doesn't mean Coke sliced the break lines. I'm sure you'd subpoena the CEO of Coca Cola if a Pepsi truck ran off the road and it turns out someone did slice the break lines, right? Exactly what happened on 9/11 in one sense.
Unless there is something particularly special about that Pepsi truck or it was not an isolated incident I would not presume the highest corporate official would have anything to do with it. Now, I might look and see if someone at the local Coca Cola distributor was involved.
I find it fascinating. You, I expect to find it not so, as you fall into the group being discussed.
I think you find it fascinating because it is consistent with your attitude towards certain people who criticize the establishment and you do not recognize the dangers of such ideas.
