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Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

Are African-Americans a mongrel people?


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crebigsol

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What the hell are you talking about?

You have successfully confused me.

Didn’t you judge me “It appears that you don't like the NAACP...”?

Don’t you expect me to accept or reject your judging?

If I accept, won’t you see me as a racist? Won’t it be a scary political responsibility for me to assume?

After your following statement, don’t you want people to accept your view about NAACP being correct?

Well, how do they define "black people", or "colored people", or whoever they claim to represent?

Depending on the method of definition, they may or may not represent some "white people".

I'm 99% sure there's a white person out there whose great-great-something-mother was a slave raped by her owner.

Should the NAACP not rep them cause' they have white skin? What's the purpose of the NAACP, anyway?


Then, when you encounter some opinion disagreeing with yours, instead of refuting with reason, you judge his opinion as “wall of rant”, and judge him as a person being politically incorrect. As to reason and logic, they are totally absent in your judgement.

Don't you think that you have been doing something that you don't want me to do?

I believe I am more entitled than you to say the following:

What the hell are you talking about?

You have successfully confused me.
 
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It is apparent that you have made multiple assumptions about me, most incorrect.
Didn’t you judge me “It appears that you don't like the NAACP...”?
I was in no way attempting to judge you.
I was simply commenting on what appeared to me as your obvious dislike of the NAACP.
I had no real response to your statements, as most were outside my realm of knowledge, and which appeared to contain a certain amount of anger - so I simply acknowledged the obvious.

Don’t you expect me to accept or reject your judging?
Nope, as I was not aware any “judging” was taking place.

If I accept, won’t you see me as a racist? Won’t it be a scary political responsibility for me to assume?
Nope, see above. And why in the hell would your statements cause me to think you are racist?

After your following statement, don’t you want people to accept your view about NAACP being correct?

Well, how do they define "black people", or "colored people", or whoever they claim to represent?

Depending on the method of definition, they may or may not represent some "white people".

I'm 99% sure there's a white person out there whose great-great-something-mother was a slave raped by her owner.

Should the NAACP not rep them cause' they have white skin? What's the purpose of the NAACP, anyway?
I never said they were correct…Where the hell did you get that idea?

In fact, that statement was intended to be negative towards them.

I think you may be projecting your apparent bias against the NAACP onto my statement, assuming I support them, and responding to that instead of what I was really attempting to say.

Then, when you encounter some opinion disagreeing with yours, instead of refuting with reason, you judge his opinion as “wall of rant”, and judge him as a person being politically incorrect. As to reason and logic, they are totally absent in your judgment.

Don't you think that you have been doing something that you don't want me to do?

I believe I am more entitled than you to say the following:

What the hell are you talking about?

You have successfully confused me.
Your opinion WAS a “wall of rant”. Your dislike and anger towards the NAACP were obvious.
That it was and is a “wall of rant” was in no way intended as a negative statement.
Rants can be fun.

I chose to replace the text with the “wall of rant” statement mainly to prevent repeating what had already been said (and thus using up page space), but also as a tongue-in-cheek statement, intended to be vaguely humorous.
 

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It is apparent that you have made multiple assumptions about me, most incorrect.
I was in no way attempting to judge you.
I was simply commenting on what appeared to me as your obvious dislike of the NAACP.
I had no real response to your statements, as most were outside my realm of knowledge, and which appeared to contain a certain amount of anger - so I simply acknowledged the obvious.

Nope, as I was not aware any “judging” was taking place.

Nope, see above. And why in the hell would your statements cause me to think you are racist?

I never said they were correct…Where the hell did you get that idea?

In fact, that statement was intended to be negative towards them.

I think you may be projecting your apparent bias against the NAACP onto my statement, assuming I support them, and responding to that instead of what I was really attempting to say.

Your opinion WAS a “wall of rant”. Your dislike and anger towards the NAACP were obvious.
That it was and is a “wall of rant” was in no way intended as a negative statement.
Rants can be fun.

I chose to replace the text with the “wall of rant” statement mainly to prevent repeating what had already been said (and thus using up page space), but also as a tongue-in-cheek statement, intended to be vaguely humorous.
Thank you for returning me a neutral comment. However, I am still unable to remove the following feeling from some of your previous comments about NAACP:
1. You tried to present to people that NAACP has no racial bias; helping the white to get fairness in the society is one of its agendas,
2. Nobody can successfully define people with color, therefore NAACP will not judge people with color content.

Honestly, I have no reason to dislike NAACP until it shows to the society that it is escorting racial discrimination in the name of anti-racial discrimination. Did you ever hear of any criticism from it against those racial slurs that I quoted in the long long message? On the other hand, I did see high pressure from it when it feels some white in the Tea Party saying something it feels uncomfortable (but far less severe than "killing")?
 

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Thank you for returning me a neutral comment. However, I am still unable to remove the following feeling from some of your previous comments about NAACP:
Ok.
1. You tried to present to people that NAACP has no racial bias; helping the white to get fairness in the society is one of its agendas.
Incorrect.

I was trying to say that if they truly represented "colored people", that would include everyone.

My understanding is that they do not represent everyone.

This may indicate racial bias, not the lack thereof.

2. Nobody can successfully define people with color, therefore NAACP will not judge people with color content.
Not sure I understand what you're getting at here.

Honestly, I have no reason to dislike NAACP until it shows to the society that it is escorting racial discrimination in the name of anti-racial discrimination. Did you ever hear of any criticism from it against those racial slurs that I quoted in the long long message? On the other hand, I did see high pressure from it when it feels some white in the Tea Party saying something it feels uncomfortable (but far less severe than "killing")?
I don't really pay attention to anything the NAACP says, so no, I never did hear.

Also, not entirely sure what's you're getting at here.
 

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Yes - you are overly sensitive and don't like it when people do not respect those sensitivites. Get over yourself.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to use the term 'colored' because that's what the NAACP uses.

How about you take your own advice and get the hell over yourself?

You are free to keep using the term colored and I am free to think you just may be a racist ass for doing so. OK? OK!
 

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How about you take your own advice and get the hell over yourself?

You are free to keep using the term colored and I am free to think you just may be a racist ass for doing so. OK? OK!
I do have a feeling that the word "color" should have been applied to whites for their identification. From the point of view of physics, white color has the most chromatic components in the optical spectrum. Applying such word to non white does aggitate a feeling of inaccuracy, irritation is understandable. However, for really accurate purpose, white may have to be called "color-ful", but non white should be "color-less", "color-less-less", "color-less-less-less"...dependiing on how many chromatic components one is willing to be found showing or not showing.
 

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Ok.

I don't really pay attention to anything the NAACP says, so no, I never did hear.

Also, not entirely sure what's you're getting at here.
The profound influence asserted by NAACP in today's American politics has not caused your attention but you show such enthusiasm in taking part in political debate? I do feel lost here. Well, this is your personal choice and nobody can say a damn.
 

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The profound influence asserted by NAACP in today's American politics has not caused your attention but you show such enthusiasm in taking part in political debate? I do feel lost here. Well, this is your personal choice and nobody can say a damn.
I've heard a few things the NAACP has said, but not enough to have any idea when they stand for/are.

How does my not paying attention to an entity preclude my ability to participate in a debate?
 

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How about you take your own advice and get the hell over yourself?
For what? Asserting that the leading organization for the advancement of colored people refers to its members as colored people and that I shall too refer to them as colored people? What's to get over?

You are free to keep using the term colored
The 1st amendment thanks you.

and I am free to think you just may be a racist ass for doing so. OK? OK!
Becauise I use the same term that they do? How is that racist?
Doesn't that make everone associated with the NAACP a racist, too?
 
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@ Tucker Case LOL... that was a awsome movie...
 
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For what? Asserting that the leading organization for the advancement of colored people refers to its members as colored people and that I shall too refer to them as colored people? What's to get over?


The 1st amendment thanks you.


Becauise I use the same term that they do? How is that racist?
Doesn't that make everone associated with the NAACP a racist, too?

Well Goobie it is just too bad that the The 1st amendment did not thank ME in reguards to what I had to say to you in this thread. :)
 

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President Obama needs to look over the dictionary. Mongrel means "dog". If he wants to say that his race is "dog", then let him be and let him face the fury of African-American people of being embarrassed at being called "dog" by their own hero.
 

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I don't really pay attention to anything the NAACP says

I've heard a few things the NAACP has said
Both of the above message are from you. I am not going to do anything to conciliate what I read

How does my not paying attention to an entity preclude my ability to participate in a debate?
Neither have I concluded anything about your ability. I only express my surprise about your "don't pay attention" on the one hand but certainly showing enthusiasm on the same thing on the other hand. I didn't even try to force you for an answer because I know it is beyond my power and limit. I must respect your boundary. If you don't feel I am fair, you can tell me what is the proper move for me. I can consider.
 

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President Obama needs to look over the dictionary. Mongrel means "dog". If he wants to say that his race is "dog", then let him be and let him face the fury of African-American people of being embarrassed at being called "dog" by their own hero.
Exact word from one dictionary for mongrel: an offspring of parents of different breeds, one of uncertain ancestry. (As to the word breed, the same dictionary does not refer it or relate it to dog)

Exanct word from another dictionary for mongrel: offspring of mixed breed. (As to the word breed, the same dictionary says: kind of plant or animal usu. developed by man. Which man is not animal? which man is not developed by man?)

Mongrel is not a negative term until people attach a neagative meaning to it. Is the word "color" neutral enough? However, some people just feel furious when he is called a colored person. It may have been so much better if he is invisible. Or will the same person call the whites "white"__the color that contains the most color components?
 

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I've heard a few things the NAACP has said, but not enough to have any idea when they stand for/are.

How does my not paying attention to an entity preclude my ability to participate in a debate?

I quote this message just try to bring your attention to another message: I have posted a reply regarding your question about natural monopoly in another thread. Thanks.
 

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Both of the above message are from you. I am not going to do anything to conciliate what I read
The two statements are in no way contridictory, if that's what you are implying.

Statements from the NAACP have shown up in the news from time to time, I'm sure.

I must have seen/heard a few, at some point.

Neither have I concluded anything about your ability. I only express my surprise about your "don't pay attention" on the one hand but certainly showing enthusiasm on the same thing on the other hand. I didn't even try to force you for an answer because I know it is beyond my power and limit. I must respect your boundary. If you don't feel I am fair, you can tell me what is the proper move for me. I can consider.
I show enthusiasm for the NAACP?

Where did you get that idea?
 

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Well Goobie it is just too bad that the The 1st amendment did not thank ME in reguards to what I had to say to you in this thread. :)
Not even sure what that is supposed to mean.

The net effect, however, is that 'colored' is a mainstream term used to describe people of color, and as such, I am not in any way concerned with any offense that you may take from my use of same.
 
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Well, mongrel is a known derogatory term but, if we go by, ‘mixing of races’ then most of us equal mongrel. You’d think Obama would have used a different term but, oh well.
 
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