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I went to the Apple store today on my way out of the mall. Never been in a Apple store.

What did I see????
Suckers.
Apple is made by the same manufacturers that produce PC-based systems. In FACT many times they are using the SAME hardware! The SAME processor.
Now, the customer service is MUCH better than other manufacturers. It should be considering you are paying about $2000 for a $500 laptop. :roll:

iPad = Worthless crap
iPhone = Best product Apple has, yet AT&T is poor and I feel the Blackberry is superior
iPod = Better MP3/4 players available for almost half price.
OS X = Operating System made for very non-technical folks. Its carry-out for people that have a nice kitchen they could simply cook in. ;)

Apple Monitors = Awesome! Best ones out there. Alas, again..... very expensive.

My conclusion is Apple products are very very very overpriced designed for people that are ignorant to hardware and software and demand customer service.

Before I get attacked I have over 10 years providing technology solutions to companies medium sized to enterprise-class. IT managers know Apple is overpriced and now there are no speed advantages for graphic artists.... they are worthless. (years ago there was a performace difference when Apple made their OWN processors)

So there ya have it! :2wave:
 

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Posting from a Macbook.
 

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You got all that information just from one visit from an Apple store?

I was at the Apple store yesterday I couldn't even find someone to help me pick out an iPod. I feel jipped.
 

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PC made me have to switch over to a Mac.

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problem-free user for over 2 years
 

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Personally, I just don't like OSX. Whenever I have to use it, I tend to drop to a command shell and just use the unix tools, but that's about it. Otherwise I prefer windows or linux.

Finalcut pro is pretty good though.

Also, I had an XP install go for 5 years without an issue (OS hard drive finally died though). Its not hard to have a stable system if you take some basic precautions.
 
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I've used Windows, Linux, and Mac.

The easiest operating system is by far Windows. Although it is the most frustrating.
The most secure operating system is Linux, but it requires much more work than Windows or Mac.
Mac is the most efficient operating system, although it is compatible with little.
 

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I've used Windows, Linux, and Mac.

The easiest operating system is by far Windows. Although it is the most frustrating.
The most secure operating system is Linux, but it requires much more work than Windows or Mac.
Mac is the most efficient operating system, although it is compatible with little.
Urban Dictionary: Linux


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103. 	Linux 	140 up, 187 down
	
buy linux mugs, tshirts and magnets
Ah, Linux,
The April fool's joke of the computing world and an embarrassment to the open-source philosophy. The brat that hasn't learned to shut the **** up and do something more productive to its cause. The hacking tool used by script kiddies who think they are "l337 haxors" after typing 10 lines of code in Pearl. A prime example of how group-think leads to less productive activity. Communism in electronic form. Now Im sure we all have by now heard the same old cliches about old Tux being the best thing since sliced bread, but eventually, they just beg to be examined a little more, as follows.

1) Linux is free.

And I'm the king of Peru. If it really is free, then the Linux sites would have no pop-up windows and ads asking for donations. Getting Luddix may be "free", but having to end up buying up to $200 worth of new hardware just to run a computer at 1/20 the speed of Windows 95 throws the whole concept of free out the door.

Also the "Free as in Beer" line is pure bull****, because the can of Budweiser I got at the store cost me $1.39, and it costs money to get whole-grain wheat flour to create home-brewed alcohol.
And no, dumb-ass, speech is not free either. If you don't believe me, try going up to a cop and string some four-letter words in his face, nd see if he will respect your freedom of speech.


2) Linux is fast and does not contain bloat-ware like Micro$hit Windoze.

If you think Microsoft Windows is bloat-ware, you haven't tried Red Hat, ELX, or SusE, because THOSE define bloat-ware. Up to 7 CDs full of useless junk right there. And Luddix is fast alright, compared to the time it takes for Neptune to circle around the Sun. And you won't believe how much RAM a typical Lunix distribution gobbles up. Better make sure you have an extra 512MB stick of RAM handy. (Note: If you want to see a fast operating system that's not Linux, check out BeOS at www.bebits.com. Now THAT, my friend, is fast!)


3) Linux gives you choices.

That would have been fine if there were 4 distributions. Hell, that would have been okay if there were 9 distros. But 300 distros is ****ing insane, especially if 293 of them suck **** through a straw.

4) with Linux, you have a wide variety of GUIs and applications.

Yeah, too bad they are all poorly-designed, and look like ripoffs of anything that Microsoft or Apple makes. Not to mention, having to type 30 ****ing lines of code just to get the program to open is pure joy.


5) 2005/2004/2000/1999/1998: The Year of the Linux Desktop.

The year came and went, Windows and MacOS logos are still flashing on the screens of those who are not blessed with the faggotry of geekism. Where oh where did Tux go? The kernel that every computer "expert" hyped would be the killer of Micro$oft? Surely Walmart can't hold up the weight of the Linux community with its $300 Linspire boxes (which end up being a dirt cheap way of installing Windows on a new computer) Looks like the Lin-zealots lied to us again, which is typical of those bastards. And it's also hard to believe that it's been over 10 years, and the ****ing penguins STILL haven't created anything that even Apple would give a **** about.


6) Linux is more secure and easier to improve than Windoze.

Until the terrorists, cultists, and malicious coders get their hands on Lunix. If they haven't already. After all, it is open-source, and by definition, open-source means that everybody gets to contribute their input into the kernel.


7) The Linux community is willing to lend a helping hand to those not familiar to the kernel.

If a helping hand means,
(a) telling grandma to RTFM and
(b) posting 9 spelling-error-filled pages of insults, death-threats, and jokes about gay sex/male body parts/fairy-tale creatures on a Linux message board because she politely asked how to get her sound card to work,
then surely the Luddix community is the most generous group in the world.


8) Linux is more stable than Windoze

I like that, plus the fact that you can't run anything without 200 dependencies (see dependency) or 30 lines of code.


Now that we're done breaking down the crap, here are some things the Lunatix community has no choice but to fix, if they ever want old Tux to be on more than 0.0003% of all desktops.

1) GET RID OF X! It is a waste of resources and useless as a desktop GUI. At least the guy who created Damn Small Linux had the right idea, and as a result, created a distro that actually isn't bloat-ware.

2) Get rid of all those useless ****ing window managers and themes. They add more bloat to the system.

3) Get rid of the snobs, l337 haxors, and religious extremists in your midst. If you ever wonder why nobody is using Linux, it's because these bastards are the loudest and rudest of the bunch.

4) NO MORE TARBALLS OR COMPILES! The software should already be compiled BEFORE it is released, because that's just pure ****ing laziness and the programmer deserves to be hanged.

5) Rewrite the entire Lin-architecture so that programs don't need 200 ****ing dependencies just to work.

6) Rewrite the entire Lin-architecture so that it doesn't require a 5-hour compile whenever an updated of a text-editor/MP3 player/Tux-Racer game is installed.

7) GET THE ****ING HARDWARE TO WORK! If the "Winmodem" works on a FreeBSD box and a BeOS box with generic drivers, then there is no excuse for the modem to not work under Linux.

8) Standardization is good, especially when it comes to file packaging and installation.

9) Get rid of all the useless ****ing distros that are clogging up the Internet. Nobody is going to use 290 of them anyway, so you might as well just band together and focus your talents and resources (and MY donation money) on the 10 most used distros.

10) Make the emulation PERFECT! If WINE promises to emulate Windows programs, then it damn well better emulate every piece of Windows-compatible software sold at Office Depot or Electronics Boutique. Failure to do so is unacceptable and will result in the purchase of a real OS (Windows XP).
If Average User Joe has to spend 5 hours downloading a 3-CD Linux distro from your crappy servers or end up shelling out $50 to $180 at Best Buy for the same distro because (a) the servers are not available or (b) don't exist, then Joe expects that distro to (1) install flawlessly, (2) work right out of the box, and (3) support all his hardware. If said Linux distro violates any of the three expectations, then don't expect Linux to succeed.
 

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Personally, I just don't like OSX. Whenever I have to use it, I tend to drop to a command shell and just use the unix tools, but that's about it.
That is exactly why OS-X is the best operating system. It has an easy to use GUI based configuration system running on top of a unix system. You can go to either to get you job done. All the security and configurability of Linux with all the ease of use of Windows and more.
 

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I've used Windows, Linux, and Mac.
The easiest operating system is by far Windows. Although it is the most frustrating.
What do you mean by easiest? I don't get it. When it comes to troubleshooting, little makes sense. One practically needs an IT background to keep Windows running properly. And what about having to have 2-3 virus protection programs running in the background all of the time? I just got fed up with the performance and swirtched over to Mac. I have had not one single issue, let alone have the perfomace (speed) affected by anything.
 

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What do you mean by easiest? I don't get it. When it comes to troubleshooting, little makes sense. One practically needs an IT background to keep Windows running properly. And what about having to have 2-3 virus protection programs running in the background all of the time? I just got fed up with the performance and swirtched over to Mac. I have had not one single issue, let alone have the perfomace (speed) affected by anything.
I think Linux is the easier to troubleshoot personally. The internals of windows tend to make little sense and show little overal cohesion in its design. This means that every subsystem has its own little rules. Also, window's logging SUCKS (but that has gotten a lot better with 2008 and 7)

Linux on the other hand seems to be my consistent. But maybe its just personal preference.
 
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What do you mean by easiest? I don't get it. When it comes to troubleshooting, little makes sense. One practically needs an IT background to keep Windows running properly. And what about having to have 2-3 virus protection programs running in the background all of the time? I just got fed up with the performance and swirtched over to Mac. I have had not one single issue, let alone have the perfomace (speed) affected by anything.
I am sure that if only ten people used Windows too then windows would not need virus protection. Just kidding I am pretty sure that more than ten people use Macs,after all there will always be those who like overpriced novelty products.
 

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I am sure that if only ten people used Windows too then windows would not need virus protection. Just kidding I am pretty sure that more than ten people use Macs,after all there will always be those who like overpriced novelty products.
You don't always have to pay too much money for a mac. Just assemble a hackintosh. :shrug:
 

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When you add up all of the crap and protection you have to buy with your PC, the price evens out. And you get a much better kick ass comptuter to boot.
 

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When you add up all of the crap and protection you have to buy with your PC, the price evens out. And you get a much better kick ass comptuter to boot.
My only protection for windows is firefox with adblock and avast!

I do the occasional third party scan but I never get more than tracking cookies.
 

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I think Linux is the easier to troubleshoot personally. The internals of windows tend to make little sense and show little overal cohesion in its design. This means that every subsystem has its own little rules. Also, window's logging SUCKS (but that has gotten a lot better with 2008 and 7)

Linux on the other hand seems to be my consistent. But maybe its just personal preference.
I know little about Linux. What I do know is that if the world had gone Mac 15-20 years ago, IT departments would be practically non-existant. I'm a software specialist, but not a handware geek by any stretch. But I can always troubleshoot my Mac, upgrade my own operating system without having to re install all of my software and files and udate my software always in a smooth fashion.
 
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I know little about Linux. What I do know is that if the world had gone Mac 15-20 years ago, IT departments would be practically non-existant. I'm a software specialist, but no a handware geek by any stretch. But I can always troubleshoot my Mac, upgrade my own operating system without having to re install all of my software and files and udate my software always in a smooth fashion.
Desktop support is only one part of IT though.
 

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I love apple, in fact I am posting this from a macbook right now. In my years of using Windows I was plagued with crashes, "illegal operations" that programs kept preforming, and the Windows OS doing almost nothing right. I have had no issues with Mac OS. My mac hardware is pretty good too at the time that I purchased it. You may say that apple over charges, but when they offer OS upgrades for $25 you can't really say that. Microsoft will charge anywhere from $100-$200 for an OS upgrade.
 

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Desktop support is only one part of IT though.
Yes, you're right. So let me rephrase my point to mean that desktop support would be practically non-existant if it were a Mac world.
 

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Yes, you're right. So let me rephrase my point to mean that desktop support would be practically non-existant if it were a Mac world.
It might be lessened but I don't think it would ever go away. When I was doing desktop support, I would regularly deal with people who could not use a computer beyond written instructions in a notebook. There will always be people like that.
 

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That Linux Urban dictionary must be at least 4-5 years old. I've been running both Suse 11 and Ubuntu 9.10 now and Ubuntu is by far the easiest Linux to run, update, etc. No more dependencies - yes, I downloaded it for free - as well as all the other applications that run on it ... FREE. I shut popup windows and ads off from Firefox so I don't know if that just to run the website or if those ads are to support the actual development of the versions.

Windows XP SP2-SP3 was and is the pinnacle of the Windows franchise and I have a build of XP running now for 5 years as well with no issues. Vista and Win7 --- not so much. Bloated? Insane... slow? Very. I think Apple's modified version of the Linux O/S has brought the other distributions into the forefront and I think Ubuntu has done more to ease the pain of running Linux as a user than any other distribution. It literally requires no new hardware, little to no Linux command line knowledge and it runs insanely fast and well. I'd suggest it to anyone looking to jump off the Microsoft bandwagon and not willing to spend the extra $$$ on Mac's.
 

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To keep your Windows running properly you just need to have a common sense on protecting your OS, i.e. adware detection/elimination software, virus protection, and a general knowledge of what NOT to click on.
 

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It might be lessened but I don't think it would ever go away. When I was doing desktop support, I would regularly deal with people who could not use a computer beyond written instructions in a notebook. There will always be people like that.
I worked for a company that was about 60% Mac (at one point it was 100%, but had to change when the world became predominantlyPC). To the best of my recollection, the total desktop support for PC: around 15 for Mac: One guy.
 
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