Oh I must have missed where he brought up irrelevant incidents from the 70's. Can you point me to that? I missed it.
And there you have the right wind ideology in a nutshell -- if they deem you as having failed to meet their standards, then you deserve no rights (to vote, in this instance).Its amazing-we are constantly told how smart democrat voters are and how stupid republican voters tend to be yet the deems are the ones who cannot figure out how to get an id. In all fairness, the dem party is a schizo bunch, small number of loud mouthed elites pretending to speak for the interests of millions of low wattage or dependent pawns but still its funny and let truth be told, people too stupid to have or need an ID are ones who really aren't people able to make an informed decision
So, you're saying that the world is flat. Interesting. . . . :2razz:
However, you have correctly illustrated the major fault in your right wing brethrens' argument: namely, that there is no need to prove voter fraud because common sense tells them that it is happening. Which is exact same fault that I was pointing out, but perhaps in an insufficient number of monosyllabic words.
Wow. The irony . . . . . .what idiocy coming from a supporter and perhaps paid activist for the party that brought us the civil war, Pearl Harbor, Korean war, Vietnam war, the Iranian hostage fiasco, the new deal rape of the constitution, Jimmy carter and Obama
Do you have anything else to say on the topic? Otherwise you might just run along. :roll:
Exactly. This perfectly encapsulates the "well duh"-it-just-makes-sense argument from the right. In truth, however, what may appear to make sense on the surface often does not make sense when you look below the surface.
I have come to the conclusion that the GOP is not interested in common sense. They, and their leaders, simply say too much stupid stuff (like Mitch McConnell pontificating about the price of gasoline doubling under Obama)... only a moron or a party fanatic could swallow such stuff, and the leaders are bound to know that, so they are quite simply propagandists who knowingly have no intention of 'making sense'.
David Byrne even wrote a song/album/movie about it
Does that mean you are not going to quote where he did what you said he did?
It means that you should run along if you don't have anything to say on the thread topic. Was I unclear about that?
:lamo :lamo :lamo :lamo :lamoDemocrats and liberals are, on average, of far lower ethical standards than Conservatives. They cheat. They obfuscate. They whine and moan. And they shun accountability.
Exactly. This perfectly encapsulates the "well duh"-it-just-makes-sense argument from the right. In truth, however, what may appear to make sense on the surface often does not make sense when you look below the surface.
Yep: "Well, duh...if you want to vote in the United States of America, you should actually be able to prove you're who you say you are." Well. Duh.
Exactly. Sounds obvious, but since there isn't actually a problem with voter impersonation, it's quite idiotic to waste millions of dollars on these unnecessary laws.
Your repeated and only complaint that one should have to prove a problem before requiring something as simple as identification is absurd.
Prove there's a problem that justifies having to identify one's self as a worker in the control room of a nuclear reactor.
Prove there's a problem that justifies having to show one's identification to use a pool pass.
You guys are incredible.
However, you have correctly illustrated the major fault in your right wing brethrens' argument: namely, that there is no need to prove voter fraud because common sense tells them that it is happening. Which is exact same fault that I was pointing out, but perhaps in an insufficient number of monosyllabic words.
Exactly. Sounds obvious, but since there isn't actually a problem with voter impersonation, it's quite idiotic to waste millions of dollars on these unnecessary laws.
So, you're saying that the world is flat. Interesting. . . . :2razz:
However, you have correctly illustrated the major fault in your right wing brethrens' argument: namely, that there is no need to prove voter fraud because common sense tells them that it is happening. Which is exact same fault that I was pointing out, but perhaps in an insufficient number of monosyllabic words.
However, you have correctly illustrated the major fault in your right wing brethrens' argument: namely, that there is no need to prove voter fraud because common sense tells them that it is happening. Which is exact same fault that I was pointing out, but perhaps in an insufficient number of monosyllabic words.
So in the cases where the poor can't afford the fees to obtain the required documents you would have no problem ponying up the money to pay those fees?Wrongo, Karl. It has nothing to do with voter fraud...whether it exists or does not exist. No one knows how much voter fraud exists. It has to do with common sense which, on this issue, the left is particularly and purposefully lacking.
So in the cases where the poor can't afford the fees to obtain the required documents you would have no problem ponying up the money to pay those fees?
Nor on mine but we seem to be in the minority, which is most of the problem.No problem on my end.
So in the cases where the poor can't afford the fees to obtain the required documents you would have no problem ponying up the money to pay those fees?
(Ed: Or better yet, just not charging them in the first place for the documents?)
Personally, I think we ought to throw the whole ID system out and go to biometrics but people would really start howling, then.
You show me someone who doesn't have a state I.D. or a driver's license, and I'll show you a probable illegal who more than likely has no business voting. Next we'll be saying we have to chauffeur voters to the polling booths because some of them can't afford the gas.
You show me someone who doesn't have a state I.D. or a driver's license, and I'll show you a probable illegal who more than likely has no business voting. Next we'll be saying we have to chauffeur voters to the polling booths because some of them can't afford the gas.
god forbid they walk
im waiting for liberals to decipher the living constitution in their imagination that the constitution guarantees free gas and cars to low income.
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