• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Appeals court denies Michael Flynn and Justice Department's effort to end his case

Text of the opinion here.
 

In a vote of 8 - 2, all Democrats voted to continue the case, the 2 Republicans to end it.

This shows how politicized the Court system has become.

Their rationale for allowing the case to continue:

As to Petitioner’s first two requests—to compel the immediate grant of the Government’s motion, and to vacate the District Court’s appointment of amicus—Petitioner has not established that he has “no other adequate means to attain the relief he desires.” Cheney v. U.S. Dist. Court for D.C., 542 U.S. 367, 380 (2004) (quoting Kerr v. U.S. Dist. Court for N. Dist. of Cal., 426 U.S. 394, 403 (1976)). We also decline to mandate that the case be reassigned to a different district judge, because Petitioner has not established a clear and indisputable right to reassignment. See id. at 381. We therefore deny the Petition.

Under governing law, the writ of mandamus should issue only if: (1) “the party seeking issuance of the writ [has] no other adequate means to attain the relief he desires”; (2) “the petitioner [satisfies] the burden of showing that his right to issuance of the writ is clear and indisputable”; and (3) “the issuing court, in the exercise of its discretion, [is] satisfied that the writ is appropriate under the circumstances.” Cheney, 542 U.S. at 380–81 (citations, alterations, and internal quotation marks omitted). All three requirements must be satisfied, and the absence of any one compels denial of the writ. “As this case implicates the separation of powers, the Court of Appeals must also ask, as part of this inquiry, whether the District Court’s actions constituted an unwarranted impairment of another branch in the performance of its constitutional duties.” Cheney, 542 U.S. at 390.

Here, Petitioner and the Government have an adequate alternate means of relief with respect to both the Rule 48(a) motion and the appointment of amicus: the District Court could grant the motion, reject amicus’s arguments, and dismiss the case. At oral argument, the District Judge’s Attorney effectively represented that all these things may happen. See Oral Arg. Transcript at 122:24–25, 123:1–9. Even if the District Court were to deny the motion, there would still be an adequate alternate means of review perhaps via the collateral- order doctrine or a fresh petition for mandamus challenging the denial, see United States v. Fokker Servs. B.V., 818 F.3d 733, 748–49 (D.C. Cir. 2016); United States v. Dupris, 664 F.2d 169, 173–74 (8th Cir. 1981), and certainly on direct appeal by Petitioner following sentencing (at which point he could raise amicus’s appointment as error), see 28 U.Sgrant of the Government’s motion, and to vacate the District Court’s appointment of amicus—Petitioner has not established that he has “no other adequate means to attain the relief he desires.” .C. § 1291. Petitioner has not cited any case in which our Court, or any court, issued the writ to compel a district court to decide an undecided motion in a particular way—i.e., when the district court might yet decide the motion in that way on its own.
En Banc D.C. Circuit Rejects Michael Flynn's Petition | Law & Crime

That whole chain of "rationale" is pure partisan bias. IMO the DC Circuit, packed to the gills with Democrat "activist" Judges, demonstrates the problems which are festering in our whole system.

Judge Sullivan by his entire series of actions, has demonstrated that he has lost judicial neutrality. His every action has shown he has a partisan stake in denying the motion. The DC Circuit refuses to recognize this in their assertion that "there remains adequate means to attain the relief he (The Defendant) desires."

Sullivan's actions show he has no desire to grant such relief. Otherwise he would have simply held a hearing without inserting himself via the appointment of an Amici to argue AGAINST both of the Parties who are already in agreement that the case be dismissed. He is seeking justification to NOT grant such relief. Meanwhile this ruling forces both Parties to expend more time, effort, and unnecessary expense when there is NO LONGER ANY CASE OR CONTROVERSY!
 
Last edited:
I hadn't seen this posted anywhere:Appeals court denies Michael Flynn and Justice Department's effort to end his case (CNN). Vote of 8-2, shocking absolutely no one.
Interesting. In the abbreviated court of 3 judges, where there's 2 recent Trump appointees, the vote is 2-1 Trump wins.

When put before the broader court with no other Trump appointees, it becomes 8-2 Trump loses. Trump couldn't even pick-up 1 judge out of the remaining 8, much less prevail! Funny how that works.
 
In a vote of 8 - 2, all Democrats voted to continue the case, the 2 Republicans to end it.

This shows how politicized the Court system has become.

Their rationale for allowing the case to continue:

En Banc D.C. Circuit Rejects Michael Flynn's Petition | Law & Crime

That whole chain of "rationale" is pure partisan bias. IMO the DC Circuit, packed to the gills with Democrat "activist" Judges, demonstrates the problems which are festering in our whole system.

Judge Sullivan by his entire series of actions, has demonstrated that he has lost judicial neutrality. His every action has shown he has a partisan stake in denying the motion. The DC Circuit refuses to recognize this in their assertion that "there remains adequate means to attain the relief he (The Defendant) desires."

Sullivan's actions show he has no desire to grant such relief. Otherwise he would have simply held a hearing without inserting himself via the appointment of an Amici to argue AGAINST both of the Parties who are already in agreement that the case be dismissed. He is seeking justification to NOT grant such relief. Meanwhile this ruling forces both Parties to expend more time, effort, and unnecessary expense when there is NO LONGER ANY CASE OR CONTROVERSY!

Complete BS... There is nothing unusual about this ruling... As Griffith said in the ruling:

Today we reach the unexceptional yet important conclusion that a court
of appeals should stay its hand and allow the district court to
finish its work rather than hear a challenge to a decision not yet
made. That is a policy the federal courts have followed since
the beginning of the Republic, see Judiciary Act of 1789, ch.
20, § 22, 1 Stat. 73, 84; 28 U.S.C. § 1291, and we are aware of
no case in which a court of appeals has ordered a district judge
to decide a pending motion in a particular way.

DC Circuit Flynn 8.31.pdf - Google Drive
 
In a vote of 8 - 2, all Democrats voted to continue the case, the 2 Republicans to end it.

This shows how politicized the Court system has become.

Their rationale for allowing the case to continue:

En Banc D.C. Circuit Rejects Michael Flynn's Petition | Law & Crime

That whole chain of "rationale" is pure partisan bias. IMO the DC Circuit, packed to the gills with Democrat "activist" Judges, demonstrates the problems which are festering in our whole system.

Judge Sullivan by his entire series of actions, has demonstrated that he has lost judicial neutrality. His every action has shown he has a partisan stake in denying the motion. The DC Circuit refuses to recognize this in their assertion that "there remains adequate means to attain the relief he (The Defendant) desires."

Sullivan's actions show he has no desire to grant such relief. Otherwise he would have simply held a hearing without inserting himself via the appointment of an Amici to argue AGAINST both of the Parties who are already in agreement that the case be dismissed. He is seeking justification to NOT grant such relief. Meanwhile this ruling forces both Parties to expend more time, effort, and unnecessary expense when there is NO LONGER ANY CASE OR CONTROVERSY!
:lamo

That's the biggest load of BS I've seen in a while. Quite literally nothing you have said here is remotely related to actual facts of legal cases.

First of all, Judge Griffith voted to deny Flynn's petition and he was appointed by a Republican, not a Democrat. So it was bipartisan denial. Judge Sullivan has done absolutely NOTHING to suggest a partisan stake, unless you think accepting a guilty plea from a guilty person and the criticizing the crime the guilty person committed is partisan. And it is 100% in the interest of the legal system for Sullivan to appoint an amicus when it is incredibly clear the DOJ is acting corruptly by trying to withdraw prosecution from one of the President's allies AFTER he has twice admitted guilt. Finally, the court VERY clearly laid out there is no way Flynn's petitition should be granted since it does not come close to meeting the incredibly high bar of a writ of mandamus, especially since Sullivan has yet to rule at all. It's hard to claim Flynn has no other course of relief when Sullivan quite literally has not ruled on the DOJ's motion to dismiss.

The only partisan BS here is this post of yours.
 
Back
Top Bottom