jfuh
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Just as much as it could be warming more than they thought.You're right, the ocean's could be cooling more than they originally thought.
Now you're just blatantly lying. You've done nothing of the sort. You've not produced a single peer review that has rejected AGW.Gill said:That's good to know. Many alarmists like jfuh demand peer reviewed data, then ignore it when provided.
The profits of denialHere's another vid detailing how AGW skepticism is nothing more than a PR campaign deliberately modeled after another known denialist campaign - tobacco-lung cancer skepticism (and unsurprisingly by many of the same people and organizations).
YouTube - Smoke and CO2: How to Spin Global Warming
The profits of denial
Asbestos, DDT, Cigarettes, all the same thing, industry denying science for the sake of profits.
If everyone knew the facts about AGW, the renewable energy and non-fossil fuel based energies would already be a reality.
You want to wager on that Vic? $500 donation to the site how about it?Except they don't work as well as oil and gas, so no they wouldn't. And most peopel realize AGW is the biggest hoax of the last 100 years. It'll go down as the scam of the millenia
Except they don't work as well as oil and gas, so no they wouldn't. And most peopel realize AGW is the biggest hoax of the last 100 years. It'll go down as the scam of the millenia
Here's another vid detailing how AGW skepticism is nothing more than a PR campaign deliberately modeled after another known denialist campaign - tobacco-lung cancer skepticism (and unsurprisingly by many of the same people and organizations).
You needn't say anything, it's already been quite thoroughly documented.Yeah, it's a vast right wing conspiracy. Everybody knows that, but we're just not telling you.
You want to wager on that Vic? $500 donation to the site how about it?
I think most people think it's real. Here in Canada, it surpassed healthcare as the most important thing to Canadians a few years back.
In 5-10 years, most will be on board, including yourself.
Palin never won the debate vic, just because you say so doesn't make it so - want to know what the polling showed after the debate? Palin lostYou bail on bets you lose, no thanks.
Palin never won the debate vic, just because you say so doesn't make it so - want to know what the polling showed after the debate? Palin lost
I let you slide on that one because I did not see Biden KO Palin, which was my condition for a win.
Tell that to vicchio, he's been bitching to me about it for ages of how SHE WON SHE WON SHE WON PAY UP PAY UP PAY UPHow could anybody claim with a straight face she won? Hell man, she actually came out and said she wasn't going to answer the questions asked of her! All she did was spew her memorized talking points as fast as she could remember them. they came out with no emotion, no articulation and in no discernible order.
And now McCain is reluctant to even support her anymore!
She... is... an... idiot. Dat's a fact, Jack! :mrgreen:
Tell that to vicchio, he's been bitching to me about it for ages of how SHE WON SHE WON SHE WON PAY UP PAY UP PAY UP
She's not an idiot though, she's an utter bimbo
And most peopel realize AGW is the biggest hoax of the last 100 years. It'll go down as the scam of the millenia
Yeah, it's a vast right wing conspiracy. Everybody knows that, but we're just not telling you.
That depends according to Kirkpatrick Sale's Human Scale on a small scale, say a few square miles solar works very well. It is actually more efficient, or was back in the 80s, than fossil fuel power generation.Except they don't work as well as oil and gas, so no they wouldn't. And most peopel realize AGW is the biggest hoax of the last 100 years. It'll go down as the scam of the millenia
Wessexman, when the tech becomes both profitable AND economically viable, it will take off, not a moment before then.
Who says? The subsidies over the decades have been enormous and certainly fulfilling large economic needs. You can't get out of it that easily.Except you, and Jfuh from the thanks, miss two important points:
1. The subsidies were more political then market needed.
Well if cities were planned better instead of being planned around the motor car then that may have been different. But that doesn't change the rest of the power debate.2. No one wants to drive an inferior electric car.
Look who voted for such, then look who got paid.Who says? The subsidies over the decades have been enormous and certainly fulfilling large economic needs. You can't get out of it that easily.
Well if cities were planned better instead of being planned around the motor car then that may have been different. But that doesn't change the rest of the power debate.
These companies got vast economic benefits, that is simply the truth. That is a massive interference in the market.Look who voted for such, then look who got paid.
Gas powered cars don't run in a vacuum, they live in transport system largely made for them.Gas powered cars are the superior product in terms of cost, effectiveness and utility.
When electric can match that, it will take over, not before then. No amount of subsidizing will change that.
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