global warming the hotter it gets the more ICE we get duh:lamo
Another recent and interesting anomaly that will doubtless upset the usual suspects by its mere mention
Antarctic Sea Ice Blows Away Records In April | NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
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Anomaly? The IPCC was projecting long-term increases in Antarctic ice mass back in 1996. SAR had a best estimate of -1cm contribution to sea levels by Antarctica up to 2100 (from TAR WG1 ch11 Table 11.14), while TAR's central value was a -8cm contribution to sea levels. A negative contribution to sea levels means more ice.
Looks like they might have been on to something.
Anomaly? The IPCC was projecting long-term increases in Antarctic ice mass back in 1996. SAR had a best estimate of -1cm contribution to sea levels by Antarctica up to 2100 (from TAR WG1 ch11 Table 11.14), while TAR's central value was a -8cm contribution to sea levels. A negative contribution to sea levels means more ice.
Looks like they might have been on to something.
So all the various reports/papers which show that "East Antarctic Ice Sheet is more vulnerable to melting than previously thought" or what ever are alarmist hype then. OK, well said.
If those are alarmist lying hype why are you so confident of the other scary (although I'm personally not scared) things that get banded about?
Which papers did you have in mind there, Tim? How much less vulnerable was the East Antarctic Ice Sheet believed to be before them? Did you notice that the increased ice extent this year was not at the East Antarctic Ice Sheet? What exactly lead you to conclude that all such papers are alarmist hype?
Which papers did you have in mind there, Tim? How much less vulnerable was the East Antarctic Ice Sheet believed to be before them? Did you notice that the increased ice extent this year was not at the East Antarctic Ice Sheet? What exactly lead you to conclude that all such papers are alarmist hype?
Neil Degrasse Tyson- The Earth will survive AGW. But we may not.
From SkepticalScience.com:
Antarctica is losing land ice as a whole, and these losses are accelerating quickly.
From SkepticalScience.com:
Antarctica sea ice is increasing because:
i) Ozone levels over Antarctica have dropped causing stratospheric cooling and increasing winds which lead to more areas of open water that can be frozen (Gillet 2003, Thompson 2002, Turner 2009).
and
ii) The Southern Ocean is freshening because of increased rain and snowfall as well as an increase in meltwater coming from the edges of Antarctica's land ice (Zhang 2007, Bintanga et al. 2013). Together, these change the composition of the different layers in the ocean there causing less mixing between warm and cold layers and thus less melted sea and coastal land ice.
All the sea ice talk aside, it is quite clear that really when it comes to Antarctic ice and sea levels, sea ice is not the most important thing to measure. In Antarctica, the largest and most important ice mass is the land ice of the West Antarctic and East Antarctic ice sheets.
Antarctica is losing land ice as a whole, and these losses are accelerating quickly.
So all the various reports/papers which show that "East Antarctic Ice Sheet is more vulnerable to melting than previously thought" or what ever are alarmist hype then. OK, well said.
If those are alarmist lying hype why are you so confident of the other scary (although I'm personally not scared) things that get banded about?
Geologists and those who follow plate tectonics know the ice sheet will most likely melt over time. In fact it's partially your fault there in Australia. The Australian plate is moving northward steadily year after year. Antarctica froze because your plate cut it off from the warmer ocean currents. If you've ever made ice cream, it's like that. Antarctica being the milk and ingredients in the center and the rock salt and ice is the cold current flowing around it, freezing it. As the Australian plate moves northward the warmer currents are creeping in.
Not to mention there is a huge active volcano beneath the ice.
From SkepticalScience.com:
Antarctica sea ice is increasing because:
i) Ozone levels over Antarctica have dropped causing stratospheric cooling and increasing winds which lead to more areas of open water that can be frozen (Gillet 2003, Thompson 2002, Turner 2009).
and
ii) The Southern Ocean is freshening because of increased rain and snowfall as well as an increase in meltwater coming from the edges of Antarctica's land ice (Zhang 2007, Bintanga et al. 2013). Together, these change the composition of the different layers in the ocean there causing less mixing between warm and cold layers and thus less melted sea and coastal land ice.
All the sea ice talk aside, it is quite clear that really when it comes to Antarctic ice and sea levels, sea ice is not the most important thing to measure. In Antarctica, the largest and most important ice mass is the land ice of the West Antarctic and East Antarctic ice sheets.
Antarctica is losing land ice as a whole, and these losses are accelerating quickly.
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