Another Question for Liberals (This one is about Bush)

[ALiberalModerate]

Just want to know your opinion about President Bush. The poll probably seems overly simplistic, but I think most responses would go one way or the other. Also, for you conservatives out there, lets not turn this into a huge debate. This is a basic poll and liberals ought to be able to give their opinion without conservatives jumping all over it. (as in its corresponding poll for conservatives)

 

[talloulou]

I'd vote that this poll is as goofy and retarded as the last three but sadly that's not an option.

 

[Kandahar]

Somewhere in between. He's certainly not someone I would call a "decent person," but I don't think he ran for president with the intention of messing things up. That's just the obvious result from his incompetence, demagoguery, simple-mindedness, and intolerance of dissent.

He's certainly done some horrible things, such as lying to start a needless war that has made our country weaker.

If he had just stuck with managing the Texas Rangers, instead of ****ing up the entire world, I'd probably think he was a "decent person." But he didn't. He ran for president.

 

[LeftyHenry]

He is the co-source of all evil in the modern world. He shares the source of all evil with Castro, Osama, Hamas, Putin, Al-Zarqawi, and others.

 

[jfuh]

Bush is a moron, he's incompetent and he's an idiot. He took a united country and tore it down the middle straight down party lines - most unfortunate.
However, Bush is not evil. He genuinely believes that he's doing the right thing and making the world a better place. You can't blame someone stupid for doing stupid things, he doesn't know any better. I blame the ppl that voted for him. It's a mistake to pick a failure the first time, it's unforgivable to pick him again.

There has not been anything that Bush has done right since taking office in 2001 with the single exception of the killing of Al Zaqawi. But then, that was a tactical decision and not a strategic decision, thus credit goes to the pentagon and the generals - not the white house.

 

[Loxd4]

He is the co-source of all evil in the modern world. He shares the source of all evil with Castro, Osama, Hamas, Putin, Al-Zarqawi, and others.

Hey, Castro isn't that bad as the others....leave him alone.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by jfuh:
There has not been anything that Bush has done right since taking office in 2001

Wait a minute, he united the muslim world for the first time in a thousand years!

 

[Loxd4]

However, Bush is not evil. He genuinely believes that he's doing the right thing and making the world a better place. You can't blame someone stupid for doing stupid things, he doesn't know any better.

Lol, then if this is true you can't blame the Castro, Osama, Hamas, Putin, Al-Zarqawi, and others, because they did know better. Becaue they thought they were doing the right thing....

 

[jfuh]

Lol, then if this is true you can't blame the Castro, Osama, Hamas, Putin, Al-Zarqawi, and others, because they did know better. Becaue they thought they were doing the right thing....

That's a good point, many ppl see them as non-evil. I didn't realize however that Putin was seen as evil.

 

[jfuh]

Wait a minute, he united the muslim world for the first time in a thousand years!

Good for them bad for us, again the wrong thing.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by jfuh:
Good for them bad for us, again the wrong thing.

Wasn't he also al Qaeda's Man of the Year for bringing them their higher than average recruiting season.

 

[jfuh]

Wasn't he also al Qaeda's Man of the Year for bringing them their higher than average recruiting season.

Seems so, they also take great pride in being a high value target. Bush refered to himself as a high value target, so he's just promoted the status of OBL and the likes to the same level he is, the leader of a nation. How dumb can you be?

 

[akyron]

Seems so, they also take great pride in being a high value target. Bush refered to himself as a high value target, so he's just promoted the status of OBL and the likes to the same level he is, the leader of a nation. How dumb can you be?

Well if they incapacitate or do worse to our president they will have Mr Cheney setting fire to their a$$es.
I would guess no rational terrorist(is there such a thing?) wants that to happen given Cheneys history as a take-no-crap kind of guy.
President Bush has been the soul of restraint by comparison.

"
They seek to impose a dictatorship of fear, under which every man, woman, and child lives in total obedience to a narrow and hateful ideology. This ideology rejects tolerance, denies freedom of conscience, and demands that women be pushed to the margins of society. Such beliefs can be imposed only through force and intimidation, so those who refuse to bow to the tyrants will be brutalized or killed -- and no person or group is exempt.
We must take them seriously. We must oppose them. And we must defeat them. Any person or government that supports, protects, or harbors terrorists is complicit in the murder of the innocent and will be held to account. "

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by aykron:
Well if they incapacitate or do worse to our president they will have Mr Cheney...

Hey....hey.....hey.............I'm eating!

 

[akyron]

Hey....hey.....hey.............I'm eating!

Now you are getting it. And theroretically how long could Mr Cheney hold office if he took it and held it? Does the counting for 2 terms start even if you were not elected or do you just have to be elected 2 terms?

 

[Kandahar]

Now you are getting it. And theroretically how long could Mr Cheney hold office if he took it and held it? Does the counting for 2 terms start even if you were not elected or do you just have to be elected 2 terms?

You can serve ten years as POTUS, at maximum.

 

[Hoot]

I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't think Bush is horrible, but he's far from being decent. His record as governor of Texas should've been enough to persuade anyone from voting for him. The arrogance of his foreign policy has had disastrous consequnces for America and the world.

He deliberately distorted intelligence and lied to the American people to justify a war that will have America paying off his debt for 200 years. He has mortgaged the future of our nation. He has yet to keep a single campaign promise.

It may not be horrible, but it's pretty damn close. In fact If I had to choose one of the two poll answers...it would be horrible.

What good has he done in all his years in office? Establishing the north-western Hawaiian Islands as a marine reserve...that's it...that's one good thing. Can I possibly hope the man will try to make it two good things in his term?

 

[Iriemon]

I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't think Bush is horrible, but he's far from being decent. His record as governor of Texas should've been enough to persuade anyone from voting for him. The arrogance of his foreign policy has had disastrous consequnces for America and the world.

He deliberately distorted intelligence and lied to the American people to justify a war that will have America paying off his debt for 200 years. He has mortgaged the future of our nation. He has yet to keep a single campaign promise.

It may not be horrible, but it's pretty damn close. In fact If I had to choose one of the two poll answers...it would be horrible.

What good has he done in all his years in office? Establishing the north-western Hawaiian Islands as a marine reserve...that's it...that's one good thing. Can I possibly hope the man will try to make it two good things in his term?

I'm about with Hoot on this one. I don't believe Bush gives two hoots (sorry) about anyone but is constituency; and his administration has engaged in a pattern of misimplications and misperceptions if not downright lies when in seeks to implement its policies. His pass the buck pandering on the tax cuts and taking a surplus budget and instead borrowing trillions of dollars to fund his programs borders is immoral IMO and will hurt this nation for decades.

 

[Captain America]

I probably wouldn't have any problem tipping back a few brewski's and doing some bass fishing with Georgie. He probably knows a joke or two.

But he is terrible public servant and the country would be better off if he stayed on the ranch.

I picked #1.

 

[dragonslayer]

How I feel about Bush is in the middle of the two choices yu gave.

I don't think that Bush, is either a good person or bad person as an individual.
Politically I think he is an abomination who is anti American, and is not perceptive enough to know it.

My image of Bush is as a nice puppy dog, who is on short corporate leash. His corporate owners walk him daily around the white house lawn, and he looks for American people to Poop on.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

As a person im sure he's a great guy. Probaby fun to have at a party.

As a politician I think he tries too hard for the hispanic vote and the evangelicals. Instead of uniting, which I think was his goal, he has divided America.

As a president... well what hasnt been said? He cant balance the budget, he's more concerned with the trade deficit than he is the fiscal deficit. When it comes to international politics he's a "Cowboy." Whats worse is he isnt even a true conservative.

 

[Goobieman]

I wonder what conclusion SD will draw from this set of polls, especially given his conclusion from his original set.

I'm especially intersted in his commentary on all of the negative personal comments regarding GWB.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by aykron:
Now you are getting it. And theroretically how long could Mr Cheney hold office if he took it and held it? Does the counting for 2 terms start even if you were not elected or do you just have to be elected 2 terms?

Chaney has got to be the best reason for not impeaching Bush!

 

[dragonslayer]

Chaney has got to be the best reason for not impeaching Bush!

I agree 100%, stay away from Bush, to have cheney would be a nighmare for The USA

Bush is the first President that was elected by the Supreme Court and later in Ohio by Deibold Voting machines.

 

[Gardener]

I do not think Bush has the degree of self-awareness it takes for me to consider him a horrible person. Many consider him as a cold and calculated actor who adopts a personna in order to capitalize on the anti-intellectual sentiment in much of this country, but if this is so, I say give him the Oscar. When a person asks him a question and he scrunches up his face trying to remember what he is supposed to say and then delivers his line in such ponderous and akward fashion right before puffing out his chest in that bandy and vaguely thuggish little way of his that says "Look -- I did it!" he seems more like a child to me than the leader of this country. My reaction to him is almost visceral in that he reminds me entirely too much of some of the boys I would just as soon forget from the fifth grade.

Of course, that's just my reaction to his style.

I would say from the standpont of liberality, he is a disaster, but instead of focussing on foreign policy as so many are apt to do, I find his oligarchic economic policy to be the chief concern. I see the POTUS as responsible for ensuring that niggling little provision in the preamble in regards to "promoting the general welfare", and IMO, that means doing that which benefits the most people and in the fairest way possible. I do not really want a return to the days of the robber barons, myself, and if I ask myself the question "what do the terms "liberal" and "conservative" really mean?", my answer usually falls along the lines of what the heck it is that conservatives wish to conserve? What they wish to conserve is the social order and especially its institutions, and I see Bush policy as wrenching us back in time many decades in that regard. He grew up priveleged -- VERY priveleged, and in his role as POTUS, he has sought to undue many of the advances achieved over the last 70 years in terms of slicing up that economic piece of pie and providing for the general welfare that at one time led us to the sort of prosperity where we really could call ourselves a middle class society. Those days are no more, and even though I don't consider him an evil man for placing the needs of his immediate social class above the needs of his country, I do hold him responsible.