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Another Non-Muslim Terrorist Attempt!!! (1 Viewer)

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Just when I was told nobody cares about the Christian Family of five making bombs--here comes another news item proving it was no anomaly. Before you get upset because it wasn't a Muslim Terrorist plot--all I have to say is HOORAY for the Law making this arrest and HOORAY for Beyondtherim not going the way of the National Media and avoiding this award winning report, may the views and responses be high. And for all those against the war on Terror--I'm sure you will express the outrage and damnation that you didn't in my first award winning post on the Christian Bomb plotters. Thank you.
 
beyondtherim55008@yahoo.c said:
http://www.startribune.com/467/story/347852.html

Just when I was told nobody cares about the Christian Family of five making bombs--here comes another news item proving it was no anomaly. Before you get upset because it wasn't a Muslim Terrorist plot--all I have to say is HOORAY for the Law making this arrest and HOORAY for Beyondtherim not going the way of the National Media and avoiding this award winning report, may the views and responses be high. And for all those against the war on Terror--I'm sure you will express the outrage and damnation that you didn't in my first award winning post on the Christian Bomb plotters. Thank you.

Are you really comparing a loony Christian family making bombs to islamofacists all over the globe? That is ignorance gone to seed.
 
beyondtherim55008@yahoo.c said:
http://www.startribune.com/467/story/347852.html

Just when I was told nobody cares about the Christian Family of five making bombs--here comes another news item proving it was no anomaly. Before you get upset because it wasn't a Muslim Terrorist plot--all I have to say is HOORAY for the Law making this arrest and HOORAY for Beyondtherim not going the way of the National Media and avoiding this award winning report, may the views and responses be high. And for all those against the war on Terror--I'm sure you will express the outrage and damnation that you didn't in my first award winning post on the Christian Bomb plotters. Thank you.

Your hypocracy on issues is amazing...

You get mad at the media not calling a christian family making bombs "Terrorists"....Yet you dont get mad at these Minute Men calling every family trying to cross the border for a better life "Money sucking Leeches"...seriously...
 
Alias said:
Are you really comparing a loony Christian family making bombs to islamofacists all over the globe? That is ignorance gone to seed.


It's what he does. Pay no attention. He has this fantasy that Islamic fanaticism, in which countries from Africa all the way to the Far East are experiencing, is equal to Christianity in America. He's angry at the world and he has no focus for it.

"Pay no atention to Bin Laden...a Christian just robbed a store and shot the clerk.":roll:
 
GySgt said:
It's what he does. Pay no attention. He has this fantasy that Islamic fanaticism, in which countries from Africa all the way to the Far East are experiencing, is equal to Christianity in America. He's angry at the world and he has no focus for it.

"Pay no atention to Bin Laden...a Christian just robbed a store and shot the clerk.":roll:

Well....the U.S. cant find Bin Laden....so technically the guy who just got shot is in needs a little more attention right now...
 
Davo said:
Well....the U.S. cant find Bin Laden....so technically the guy who just got shot is in needs a little more attention right now...


Can't "get" to Bin Laden.
 
That's a nice looking gun collection.
 
No one ever got Hitler either. So what? Winning the war is what counts.
 
Alias said:
No one ever got Hitler either. So what? Winning the war is what counts.


Exactly. Bin Laden will be caught or killed sooner or later. He is only one man. We face something bigger and it existed before Bin Ladden and it will exist after Bin Ladden. He is just the charismatic leader of the day that organized them.
 
GySgt said:
Can't "get" to Bin Laden.

More like....cant find him....doesnt....not being able to get to him imply that you know where he is?
 
Davo said:
Your hypocracy on issues is amazing...

You get mad at the media not calling a christian family making bombs "Terrorists"....Yet you dont get mad at these Minute Men calling every family trying to cross the border for a better life "Money sucking Leeches"...seriously...

Money sucking Leeches... dunno how bout we just call them criminals and get it over with
 
Is it possible that we know where he is. But the informatio coming from him is more valuable then he is. SO we just let him go on his merry way gathering information about other cells, sects, plots and terrorist?
 
Calm2Chaos said:
Money sucking Leeches... dunno how bout we just call them criminals and get it over with

One of them said it on NBC(trying to find link)

Calm2Chaos said:
Is it possible that we know where he is. But the informatio coming from him is more valuable then he is. SO we just let him go on his merry way gathering information about other cells, sects, plots and terrorist?

If Bush has deliberately done that....then...he's purposely delayed justice for the families of 3000 victims?...People will be pissed if he's done this.
 
Davo said:
One of them said it on NBC(trying to find link)
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They are criminals, and they are costing this country an extrordinary amount of money

Davo said:
If Bush has deliberately done that....then...he's purposely delayed justice for the families of 3000 victims?...People will be pissed if he's done this.


People are always pissed about something. In the end you have to weight the good of the many over that of the few.. Geezz I sound like spock
:2razz:
 
Davo said:
More like....cant find him....doesnt....not being able to get to him imply that you know where he is?


CIA, military, and Pakistani intelligence has him contained within the Afghani and Pakistani mountain ranges. We can't get to him. There was a time when we were monitoring his calls, because of the transmissions from these mountains. However, our media wrecked that weapon for us.
Davo said:
If Bush has deliberately done that....then...he's purposely delayed justice for the families of 3000 victims?...People will be pissed if he's done this.

This would be more of a personal theory. Although, there is truth that there are extremist camps in Bosnia and Pakistan that are allowed to remain open for good reason.
 
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GySgt said:
CIA, military, and Pakistani intelligence has him contained within the Afghani and Pakistani mountain ranges.

My bet is he is sipping a Pina Colada somewhere in South America with two hoochie mama's.
 
Thank you all. You have Gunny saying to avoid me and he posts 4 times; you have Davo saying my attention should be about those "heinous" Minutemen--who cares about bombs and a murder plot of public officials--yes people I get it; I always have, if it's not Muslim, it's not a terrorist plot. You could care less--yes, I understand, the mainstream media has programmed the sheep. BAAAA

That's a nice looking gun collection.
A huge one at that, did you see the 50cal. sniper rifle on it's bipod? Awesome. I wonder if one Muslim in the state of Mn has even a gun collection close to that size?

Are you really comparing a loony Christian family making bombs to islamofacists all over the globe? That is ignorance gone to seed.
News Alert. The bombs killing civilians in Iraq/Afghan. aren't made by Christians? Aren't owned by American Christians? That is ignorance gone to seed. Please think before you post next time.
 
beyondtherim55008@yahoo.c said:
Thank you all. You have Gunny saying to avoid me and he posts 4 times; you have Davo saying my attention should be about those "heinous" Minutemen--who cares about bombs and a murder plot of public officials--yes people I get it; I always have, if it's not Muslim, it's not a terrorist plot. You could care less--yes, I understand, the mainstream media has programmed the sheep. BAAAA

A huge one at that, did you see the 50cal. sniper rifle on it's bipod? Awesome. I wonder if one Muslim in the state of Mn has even a gun collection close to that size?

News Alert. The bombs killing civilians in Iraq/Afghan. aren't made by Christians? Aren't owned by American Christians? That is ignorance gone to seed. Please think before you post next time.

Simple distortions of the truth. Very un-amusing and droll.

Your entire Christian bomb factory fantasy is desperation. I guess only "Christians" are employed by our government and only Christians work in weaponms manufacturiing plants. However, let's roll with your distortions....

Here's one for you. If "Christians" who make bombs are payed with paychecks that come from the government which are made up of your tax dollars, then you are also a terrorist. Or does this silly little game only work to defend Islamic extremism at the expense of Christians?:roll:

Oh yeah, since you brought up MN, I wonder how many Christian terrorist groups are planning an attack on a Muslim city.
 
GySgt said:
Simple distortions of the truth. Very un-amusing and droll.

Your entire Christian bomb factory fantasy is desperation. I guess only "Christians" are employed by our government and only Christians work in weaponms manufacturiing plants. However, let's roll with your distortions....

Here's one for you. If "Christians" who make bombs are payed with paychecks that come from the government which are made up of your tax dollars, then you are also a terrorist. Or does this silly little game only work to defend Islamic extremism at the expense of Christians?:roll:

Oh yeah, since you brought up MN, I wonder how many Christian terrorist groups are planning an attack on a Muslim city.


Are there many christian terrorist group beheading people, beating there bloody bodies and burning them while hanging from a bridge. I keep missing the news coverage about those incidents
 
Are there many christian terrorist group beheading people, beating there bloody bodies and burning them while hanging from a bridge.
Beating bloody bodies--yes, Abu Graib comes to mind as one of many; burning them, yes. Beheading them? No I haven't seen that one--what's your point? That murder can only be certain methods? And we have the right and holy methods? Bawawa
I keep missing the news coverage about those incidents
Just turn on any mainstream news--where have you been living your whole life? In a closet?

If "Christians" who make bombs are payed with paychecks that come from the government which are made up of your tax dollars, then you are also a terrorist.
Yes. You and I are a terrorist--thank you for finally telling the truth.
Oh yeah, since you brought up MN, I wonder how many Christian terrorist groups are planning an attack on a Muslim city.
I didn't know any Muslim forces occupied any state or city in this Nation--Gunny, tell me who's under occupation in the US here? Come on people, your examples are simple distortions of the truth. Very un-amusing and droll. Admit this: Any white man who is non muslim isn't going to help the biased war on terror--even if he's doing the same thing as your non-white Muslim Jihadist--why cannot you just admit this--actually you have.
 
beyondtherim55008@yahoo.c said:
Beating bloody bodies--yes, Abu Graib comes to mind as one of many; burning them, yes. Beheading them? No I haven't seen that one--what's your point? That murder can only be certain methods? And we have the right and holy methods? Bawawa
Just turn on any mainstream news--where have you been living your whole life? In a closet?

Yes. You and I are a terrorist--thank you for finally telling the truth. I didn't know any Muslim forces occupied any state or city in this Nation--Gunny, tell me who's under occupation in the US here? Come on people, your examples are simple distortions of the truth. Very un-amusing and droll. Admit this: Any white man who is non muslim isn't going to help the biased war on terror--even if he's doing the same thing as your non-white Muslim Jihadist--why cannot you just admit this--actually you have.

"Any white man"......"The Christian world is just as terrorist like as the Muslim world"....."The military insults the Constitution"...."If you believe in American paper money then you are a traitor".......

It's becoming very obvious where your state of mind is. Thus far you haven't provided an argument for anything. Just desperations to exonerate.
 
Thus far you haven't provided an argument for anything. Just desperations to exonerate.

Then you need not be worried. No one will respond to my desperations. Why then do you respond??? Are you afraid others might be lead down the wrong path? Or maybe you don't like what your hearing and have gaps of defense for it? Gunny, you being a marine, how do you get all this time to post at daytime? Are you posting on the job like me? What's up with that? Why don't you care about white non-muslim terrorism? No damnation on this terrorist at all from you. As for evidence on the consititution, you skipped that debate on the other thread didn't you? I'm going to do something for you I will show you later.
 
beyondtherim55008@yahoo.c said:
Then you need not be worried. No one will respond to my desperations. Why then do you respond??? Are you afraid others might be lead down the wrong path? Or maybe you don't like what your hearing and have gaps of defense for it? Gunny, you being a marine, how do you get all this time to post at daytime? Are you posting on the job like me? What's up with that? Why don't you care about white non-muslim terrorism? No damnation on this terrorist at all from you. As for evidence on the consititution, you skipped that debate on the other thread didn't you? I'm going to do something for you I will show you later.


You silly, silly little goose. You are preaching to the choir, except I have the study in my head to classify the terrorists in their perspective categories (and no...religion, and skin color are not the defining factors). You should read about what I have said about terrorism across the forum. You will find that I have labeled "white non-Muslim" terrorists along with Muslim terrorists. However, you are desperately trying to compare a tonka toy to a HMMWV. It just doesn't work. One can be placed in a drawer, the other you cannot.

I am currently in a unit that gives me a break from deploying. It is a higher HQ and I spend much of my time making sure intel reports from all levels get to their correct destinations (Not my real job, but like I said...I'm on a break). This gives me down time to waste your tax dollars as I sit at my desk in uniform and encourage you to bring something substantial to debate about. :cool:

The debate on the other thread went from "a Christian terrorist family who makes bombs" (of which your labeling them was based on a Bible found in the house), to Marine General Smedley D. Butler and his interpretations of what the reality opf war is (of which the majority of us in uniform agree with, because we see it), to American paper currency. This all occurred in one page of posts. This is why I left that debate. This is why many abandon your threads. The train of thought is irratic.

Why do appear to be very angry at "whitey?" As I have said before, if you are Muslim, then you should be directing this defenisve posture to the zealots who are destroying Islam on the world stage. If you are racist against "whitey," then display that - Freedom of Speech is grand. If you are a member of an anti-government militia (as one of your links suggested), fear not, I am not the government. If you are not any of this, then I am clueless as to where you are coming from.



Also, I might add that your link in the sig area is hillarious. I loved the "pity me and give me money" act.
 
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beyondtherim55008@yahoo.c said:
Then you need not be worried. No one will respond to my desperations. Why then do you respond??? Are you afraid others might be lead down the wrong path? Or maybe you don't like what your hearing and have gaps of defense for it? Gunny, you being a marine, how do you get all this time to post at daytime? Are you posting on the job like me? What's up with that? Why don't you care about white non-muslim terrorism? No damnation on this terrorist at all from you. As for evidence on the consititution, you skipped that debate on the other thread didn't you? I'm going to do something for you I will show you later.


It's that damm white devil everytime.

I do like how you try to equate a few incidents, of a few people either here or abroad to a worldwide pandemic of terror plaguing the entire globe. These very people are targeting woman, children, civilians on a daily bases world wide. Yet your defense is look what a couple people here did?

ABU Grahb... How many people were killed? How many were dragged through the streets, how many were beaheaded, how many were hung from bridges and burned.... ?????????????????????

We are taking about terrorism... I am not trying to equate murder with terrorism I am comparing teorrist with terrorism.

Your a sympathiser for these very people by the sounds of it,You dislike the country, and don't like the "white man". Your agenda is pretty clear :roll:
 
Look what I found on the link below; some soldier claiming he represents-enforces the Constitution. And look at the sampling of the responses. I'm sure Gunny and all War supporters will prove them wrong by posting at that forum and telling others here why it's wrong--Good luck. LOL.

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100307;title=APFN

I've served in the Corp for 24 years; was a Gunny and now have been an officer. I have been to Storm, and three tours so far in Iraq. I am the protector of the Constitution and I swore an oath to it,"to protect from all enemies foreign and domestic." I'm concerned that this site and related sites are either wacko or taking the context of the Constitution out of meaning. Politics are by no means fair and proper but politicians, the judicial system is fair and is constitutional. Why do you say otherwise? This sounds like some militia paranoia website.

Call4Investigation
Marine or Mind Controlled Elitist Programmed Drone?
Sat Apr 8, 2006 16:57
67.160.63.149
Marine or Mind Controlled Elitist Programmed Manchurian Drone? Or are you a planted mole or just plain "Brain Deaded."

Read about what this Elitist Controlled government
does to Former Honorably Discharged Vietnam Veterans.
From a former Ranger.
While the sheep are sleeping, the predators move in
http://www.iahf.com/usa/20010506.html
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/sheep.htm

Ray Kirkus
Re: Marine Capt concerned about your site!
Sat Apr 8, 2006 12:06
70.225.204.191
I do not believe anyone here will blame you for being as naiive as you are, but you have not been defending the constitution, but merely being told that you were.
First of all, if you swore an oath to do so you have failed. Read it! The constitution means what it says. There are no hidden agenda's in the text. What meanings do you think are out of context? Perhaps you need to sit down and read the declaration of Independence first in order to understand what the King was doing to the colonists and compare it to today. Further, this nation is a corporation and you are considered an employee/ subject to the private laws of the corporation. Read what the 14th amendment created and what a Federal citizen is.

Read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and compare it to the system we live in. Do you even know what equity is and how the courts operate under equity/ statutory jurisdiction. You are a slave to the current system and the master is the government. The courts do not recognize constitutional argumnets and laugh at people who bring them in. It doesnt matter to them. The legislature writes laws circumventing the constitutions both federal and state.

blueridge
Constitution defines "domestic enemies"
Sat Apr 8, 2006 00:00
24.197.84.61
What has happened is nothing less than what was warned of when the constitution, which you swore to defend and uphold while you do not, has come true. (The fact that you went to Iraq does not mean you uphold the constitution, but only that you obeyed Executive branch orders). How the military, unless it uses discernment, fits into supporting tyranny, rather than defending constitutional liberty, is proven here.

APFN / Ken Vardon, USN RM1
MARINE: WHAT'S WRONG, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR REAL NAME....???
Fri Apr 7, 2006 17:24
64.140.158.77
HELLO MARINE..... WHAT'S WRONG, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR REAL NAME....???

Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski
U.S. Air Force, 1983-2003
http://www.q-and-a.org/Program/?ProgramID=1069

Kenneth Vardon USN 493-81-68. Get RealPlayer 8. APFN on Lou Epton Show, 1995 ...
Kenneth Vardon, Founder American Patriot Friends Network (APFN). Email: apfn@apfn.org ...
http://www.apfn.org/APFN/kenvardon.htm

Daniel E. Moore
USAF veteran concerned about Marine Captain...
Fri Apr 7, 2006 15:48
205.201.125.94
Dear Captain,
I am an honorably discharged USAF veteran who loves his country. Like yourself I will defend our nation against all enemies foreign and domestic. You may want to do some research on the infringement of U.S. Constitutional rights. For example, Supreme Court Justices who passed the National Eminent Domain Law, have rewritten the constitution and committed a blatant act of judicial tyranny.
 

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