This debate is just about over
I would win more than I would lose.
Thats what I said, but you wouldn't have a worthwhile bet in either case. Better off playing craps.
Where did I say "every", don't put words in my mouth thinking it makes your case. The fact is MOST black men will commit a crime in their lifetime.
Did you forget that I said "there is a very good chance that every" that means the same as MOST. Stop acting dense.
How do you think we get to the point where blacks who only make up 12% of the population commit crimes at a higher rate than any other group.
The war on drugs I imagine had a big role in "getting to this point."
The war on drugs inflates the statistics dramatically. Correct for it and the picture is much less correlating. But you and I disagree on whether there should be a war on drugs, so I don't see how we're going to proceed on this point.
I have post my cites and the starts argue them.
English please?
It doesn't, it relies on observable fact. If you are going to just sit there and deny the epidemic of crime in the black community then we will just end it here.
First of all, it is hardly an "epidemic," there is no need for exadurations. But I do not deny the crime statistics, I deny that correlation = causation. I am arguing that being black alone does not make you more likely to commit crime. Skin pigment is neither a direct nor indirect cause to criminality.
Are you intentionally being obtuse? What makes a person become a criminal, logically? What are the factors that contribute to this?
I mean if you really believe that correlation = causation (logical fallacy by the way) then by that standard, being white makes you more likely to commit serial murders. Or white collar crime for that matter.
Oh how gracious of you. Denial is one of the reasons the black community continues to be embroiled in crime which results in poverty.
What does my conceding that you're not a full blown bigot have to do with the bold at all? Honestly Stinger, whats wrong with you? I give you an inch...
Oh geez, just read the papers about drive by shootings and even the ones who make it still out to kill each other. Go to the Mobile Register web-page and read the front page article today about a black grandmother (the mothers have apparently run off) who got shot protecting her grandchildren when a gang shooting broke out in her front yard between young teenage blacks. That's how out of hand it has gotten.
And this has to do with being a gangsta rap how?
I don't presume to speak for others. But what does one city tell us, not much when we have all the rest to look at.
Did you not say "ask
ANY cop" who patrols black neighborhoods? Now I have to do an entire survey? I thought you were opposed to sociology.
I have not utter one racist sentence here, but what has happened is the typical bang the other over the head with the racist card with the truth is spoken. Look what happen to Cosby when he tried.
Bullshit, calling "Criminal" an "acceptable
PROFESSION" in the black-communty is racist as HELL. And if you don't see that, then you're probably racist.:lol:
Its like hearing a white supremacist explain how they aren't bigots.... (Note, I am not calling you a white supremacist, in case you care to act more obtuse.)
Stinger, you're racist, period. And its okay, its part of what makes you Stinger. I don't get much chance to deal with racist people in my daily life, so its refreshing to have a conversation with some who has the balls to say "criminal is an acceptable profession in the black community."
Except when they go around shooting each other and anyone in between.
Where they perpetrating drive-by shootings, were they raping women, were they assualting others.
Drug users? Are you kidding me? Most users of illegal drugs are marijuana smokers who are the most harmless group of people using any substance. Alcoholics are significantly worse for society, and contribute to more deaths.
The only reason there is even drug violence is because of the prohibition, and the nature of disputes in black markets.
All the rationalizations you through out don't hide the plain fact. If blacks in our country committed crimes at the same rate as whites, we could close half the prisons.
If we ended the drug war, we could close more than half the prisons.
How about rebutting the facts I laid out, you asked for them I provided them
The facts you posted are true, and I don't need to refute them to refute the conclusions you draw from them.
Same as when dealing with people who bastardize quantum mechanics, and attempt to use it to support theology, and insist that I debunk quantum mechanics rather than their leaps of logic and non-sequitors.
Crime creating poverty, and never the other way around is a complete non-sequitor.
and now you just engage in name calling.
Just? No I've said alot more than just calling you a racist. I explained how you're statement was racist, I was calling a spade a spade. As if thats even "name calling." Why do you always freak out at the slightest ad-hom, especially in the case where I wasn't stating it with the purpose of insulting you.
Everyone has their prejudices to an extent, the double standard is just setup to the disadvantage of the white man. You can't say what I can in mixed company.