Another Bush Accomplishment

[Binary_Digit]

It happened on his watch didn't it, the Dems take the position that the person who is on watch is responsible.

And the Reps take the position that nobody is responsible for anything. How's it feel to be stereotyped?

If you believe that Bush was unfairly blamed for something he had no control over (yes, I think so too), then why not take it up with the specific people making those claims? Instead you just stoop to their level and weaken your own argument.

 

[Iriemon]

First thing that came to mind with the title "Another Bush Accomplishment":

"...and he can pull 'em off and on..."

LMFAO! Screen wipe!

 

[Stinger]

And the Reps take the position that nobody is responsible for anything.

I don't see that at all but the Dems do claim responsbility just for being around.

How's it feel to be stereotyped?

I don't know you didn't sterotype me.

If you believe that Bush was unfairly blamed for something he had no control over (yes, I think so too), then why not take it up with the specific people making those claims? Instead you just stoop to their level and weaken your own argument.

How have I stooped to their level by asking if they give him credit because it happened on his watch, they blame him for things that happened on his watch and certainly give Clinton credit for things simply because he was on watch. So are they consistant? I'm asking.

 

[Kelzie]

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[Stinger]

Moderator's Warning:

Moved to appropriate forum after 48 hours

Huh???????

 

[Kelzie]

Huh???????

New rules. We're moving all threads from Breaking News after 48 hours. Just cleaning up a little.

 

[jfuh]

It happened on his watch didn't it, the Dems take the position that the person who is on watch is responsible.

Dems only? So who's to blame for the 93 WTC garage bomb? USS cole? Bugging out of Samolia?

 

[Stinger]

Dems only? So who's to blame for the 93 WTC garage bomb? USS cole? Bugging out of Samolia?

If we use the Dems criteria, who watch did it happen on?

 

[Stinger]

And the Reps take the position that nobody is responsible for anything. How's it feel to be stereotyped?

I've never heard them say that.

If you believe that Bush was unfairly blamed for something he had no control over (yes, I think so too), then why not take it up with the specific people making those claims? Instead you just stoop to their level and weaken your own argument.

I am taking it up with Democrats who use that arguement I have no agruement here.

 

[debate_junkie]

First thing that came to mind with the title "Another Bush Accomplishment":

"...and he can pull 'em off and on..."

:rofl

Thanks for the laugh, shuamort. That was a classic post

 

[Willoughby]

I don't get this whole watch thing that gets banded about in the states. Every imporvement/disaster should be considered with the reasons these things actually happened. Is it Bush who has lead to the drop in the mortality rate..probably not. Was 9/11 Bush's fault...probably not (although the actions or lack of, of the security agents 2000-2001 need to be looked at), was the reaction to 9/11 was down to bush. Both sides need to look at long term factors ...

 

[BigDog]

I don't get this whole watch thing that gets banded about in the states. Every imporvement/disaster should be considered with the reasons these things actually happened. Is it Bush who has lead to the drop in the mortality rate..probably not. Was 9/11 Bush's fault...probably not (although the actions or lack of, of the security agents 2000-2001 need to be looked at), was the reaction to 9/11 was down to bush. Both sides need to look at long term factors ...

No, there is no way Bush or any president can take credit for the morality rate. Such is almost as much hyperbole as claiming Reagan single handedly defeated communism. Both were and are the result of many, many factors.

And 9/11 and such acts should be examined and discussed honestly and without partisan spin. The truth is no one was on the ball and that was one reason it happened. And we can go a long ways back, well beyond Clinton and Bush, beyond Reagan and Carter, to find reasons and fault to go around.

 

[manthe]

No, there is no way Bush or any president can take credit for the morality rate. Such is almost as much hyperbole as claiming Reagan single handedly defeated communism. Both were and are the result of many, many factors.

And 9/11 and such acts should be examined and discussed honestly and without partisan spin. The truth is no one was on the ball and that was one reason it happened. And we can go a long ways back, well beyond Clinton and Bush, beyond Reagan and Carter, to find reasons and fault to go around.

With regards to 9/11, I am always curious as to why, when speaking of assigning blame and cause, no ever mentions the actual terrorists and those that support them. I think these animals need to be factored in.

 

[BigDog]

With regards to 9/11, I am always curious as to why, when speaking of assigning blame and cause, no ever mentions the actual terrorists and those that support them. I think these animals need to be factored in.

I would agree. They certainly top the list. However, we were not only open to it, but are connected to the factors that gave rise to our problems. We have backed animals like the Shah of Iran because he was "our" man, and even saw Saddam that way at one point as well. We can't rightly excuse and ignore such any more than we can those who flew those planes and killed those people. Everyone is accountable for they have done.

 

[jfuh]

If we use the Dems criteria, who watch did it happen on?

Well in that case since you are so open to criteria of the Dems, obviously no one other then Clinton is to blame. Just then is the same way in which the Failure of Katrina, Failure of 9/11 failure of Iraq, are all Bush's fault.
Can't have it both ways.