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Anonymous Goes on Megaupload Revenge Spree: DoJ, RIAA, MPAA, and Universal Music All

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And there will be very little they can do about it. The World Wide Web would be a much less open community, by law and regulation if things like SOPA pass.
 
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Tigger said:
I wouldn't call it terrorism, but I would suggest that attackes on any of those sites which are run by the US Government come downright close to meeting my personal definition of treason.
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Yeah, but your personal definition of treason is stupid.
 
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You are correct, I just didn't feel like writing a whole paragraph explaining this.
 
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Baralis said:
Agreed.

Sadly I believe its actions such as theirs that will ultimately push our government to strangle internet freedom. They are threatening the very thing they claim to protect.
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The same could be said of all terrorist organizations, IMO.
 
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the ****s from anonymous should be hunted, jailed and banned from ever using a computer again.
 
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Why would they announce their targets before striking?
 
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Ikari said:
I think that could better be said about the government actions taken prior.
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Nonsense. Threatening to shut down legal websites simply because you don't get to steal people's **** is terrorism.
 
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Deuce said:
Certainly illegal but this hardly qualifies as terrorism.

Typical right-wing, playing the terrorism card.
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I'm not right wing - I was the first to call it terrorism.
 
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Hatuey said:
Nonsense. Threatening to shut down legal websites simply because you don't get to steal people's **** is terrorism.
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Instead of going after the service that allows legal downloads maybe they should go after the people that post the illegal stuff on that service instead.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Instead of going after the service that allows legal downloads maybe they should go after the people that post the illegal stuff on that service instead.
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Very hard to do. Really what's going to happen is that all media will come only playable to internet connected devices and have severe DRM hurdles to play. Thank thieves for this.
 
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MrVicchio said:
Very hard to do. Really what's going to happen is that all media will come only playable to internet connected devices and have severe DRM hurdles to play. Thank thieves for this.
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Umm...last I knew how difficult it was to catch a criminal was a non-factor in trying to catch the actual criminal. Also last I knew it was wrong to charge innocent people with a crime....at least normally.
 
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Hatuey said:
Nonsense. Threatening to shut down legal websites simply because you don't get to steal people's **** is terrorism.
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That's a scarily broad definition of terrorism there, quite dangerous in fact.
 
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Hatuey said:
Nonsense. Threatening to shut down legal websites simply because you don't get to steal people's **** is terrorism.
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And what would you call the confiscation of $50 million in hard assets from megaupload that will never be returned, without trial or due process, all because the RIAA and adjacent industries asked the DoJ to do so? That site was a transit hub for tens of millions of people that facilitated peer-to-peer connections. Now it's gone from the web, along with billions of megabytes in data.

Anonymous is exercising civil disobedience, and they have my moral support. Our government is turning fascist day by day, and they don't respond to the will of the people anymore. Tens of millions of people protested SOPA with blackouts and letter writing, and still congress passed the bill; and all we got from the senate was a delay. Just who the **** does our government represent at this point? It certainly isn't the American people. It's the corporate "people".

Corporate personhood needs to be absolished, or at least re-defined so that American citizens are put first and corporate persons are second class. They are not real people and should not have this kind of power over government.
 
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MrVicchio said:
. Thank thieves for this.
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Very hard to do since legally, theives are not a part of the equation [hint: pirates, copyright infringers] - but really, given how companies are able to face the hurdle of piracy, to blame only pirates for this is in of itself ignorant - these companies have means of dealing with the issue of piracy and climbing over the hurdles to come out on top,and doing what you suggest in spire of those possibilities shows an unwillingness to adapt - something only the companies themselves can be blamed for.
 
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Temporal said:
And what would you call the confiscation of $50 million in hard assets from megaupload that will never be returned, without trial or due process, all because the RIAA and adjacent industries asked the DoJ to do so?
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A good thing. The end.
 
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I'd say Civil Disobedience and if a DOS attack is illegal, which I honestly don't know if it is, then I'd say Civil Disobedience that is criminal in nature.

I don't view hacking and a DOS attack on the same level. Hacking is similar to breaking and entering / trespassing. DOS reminds me more of presenting a public obstruction that denies people the ability to easily access an establishment or business.
 
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DDOS is more like firebombing the police stations simply because your favorite crack house has been shut down and demolished.
 
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Hatuey said:
A good thing. The end.
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So you support closing down a service that was designed to help people share files that are legal to share? (IE thier own work or someone elses that says "yes they can distribute it") You support shutting down a service because of actual criminals using that service? How about we start shutting down grocery stores also? I'm sure criminals use them also. :roll:
 
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Hatuey said:
DDOS is more like firebombing the police stations simply because your favorite crack house has been shut down and demolished.
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Not even close. Firebombing a station leaves it unable to be used for weeks on end (and possibly killing people)...possibly permenately because there isn't enough money to rebuild the station. A Dos attack can be fixed in less than a day at most and hurts no one.
 
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Here is where they made their mistake:
The indictment is saying that Megaupload bought and solicited copywrited materials. If that turns out to be the case then they screwed up in a major way.

BTW here is the message if you try to go to Megaupload.com
 
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I visited megaupload a couple of times for downloading games when I was directed to it via the game designer him/herself. I never once saw anything where they offered money to anyone that put up copyrighted material...and yes, I looked to become a premium member because they offered faster downloads if I did so.
 
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Here is the indictment: Mega Indictment

I have to say with the experience that I have had with their sites they are making a very convincing case. Honestly I feel no remorse for the pirated software that I have used before. No one lost any money from me using pirated software since I would never pay the kind of money some of that software would cost. I simply do not have that money to give. But I am not trying make money off of it either. Im telling you this so it is clear that I am not against things like per-to-peer sharing. But I am opposed to sites that charge to share software and what not. Personally I only use torrent sites and on a limited bases. I used to use DC++ but I cant seem to configure my DSL to do that anymore. But their is software the people can use to directly share large files privately. Which I use with some band mates in a project we are working on and we live in different states.

From reading the indictment it appears that megaupload got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. And its obvious that they thought that they had a legal loophole defense if they ever got caught. This only means that other sites better learn the lessons that this is teaching them. You know like how Piratebay taught the torrent community some lessons?
 
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The main gist of this case would require that anyone who hosts any kind of website would be required to police the actions of those who post on it. This site could be held liable for someone posting a youtube video on it with copyrighted content. Youtube, in turn, would also be liable, despite already having won a case that said they weren't! This is a load of bull. I'll get back with more comments after I finish reading the indictment.
 
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You wouldn't think like that if it was your intelectual property being stolen.
 
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imagep said:
You wouldn't think like that if it was your intelectual property being stolen.
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So, if I were a shareholder in a record company, I would want to live in a police state? That's what you just said. I'm saying "protecting civil liberties is the right thing to do, no matter who is doing the protecting. And you're saying I wouldn't still hold that position if I were in a position to make less money because of it? Have you met me?

And just so you know, I'm an actor and a musician, among other things. I give away my intellectual property for free all the time.
 
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