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Angela Merkel attacks Twitter over Trump ban

Kushinator said:
Sanctimonious nonsense aside, you don't have a point. But you do make a good case as to why German tech startups are not as successful as their American counterparts.
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Because ours a bound by laws. Über for example is banned Here for good reason
 
Peter King said:
I seriously doubt Germany can force Twitter to unblock members who have broken the rules of the platform.
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www.lhr-law.de

OLG Dresden: Twitter darf Accounts nicht ohne ausreichenden Grund sperren | LHR Rechtsanwälte Köln

Einem aktuelle Urteil des Dresdner Oberlandesgericht nach ist es der Plattform Twitter untersagt, Accounts aufgrund bestimmter Beiträge ohne ausreichenden Grund zu sperren. Nach Ansicht des Mediums hatte der betreffende Tweet gegen die hauseigenen Richtlinien verstoßen. Die Richter sahen diese...
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Badabumm

German law Stands above Twitter
 
Peter King said:
Strange, according to the Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz social network companies are forced to delete criminally offending responses/tweets in an attempt to stop fake news and illegal speech in Germany, or else they will be punished with huge fines for not deleting these message. Which kinda sounds exactly the opposite to what you claim. I am sure you will be able to post links of trustworthy media sources stating what you claim about Twitter/facebook/etc..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act
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That works both ways

www.lhr-law.de

OLG Dresden: Twitter darf Accounts nicht ohne ausreichenden Grund sperren | LHR Rechtsanwälte Köln

Einem aktuelle Urteil des Dresdner Oberlandesgericht nach ist es der Plattform Twitter untersagt, Accounts aufgrund bestimmter Beiträge ohne ausreichenden Grund zu sperren. Nach Ansicht des Mediums hatte der betreffende Tweet gegen die hauseigenen Richtlinien verstoßen. Die Richter sahen diese...
www.lhr-law.de

They must delete as coirts Order and reupload when courts order
 
Rostocker said:
It is not illegal to have a nazi flag here.

Seriously? Where do you guys get such ridicolous statements regarding german law? You can have Nazi memorabilia. Its not allowed to wave such stuff in public for political reasons. Its allowed for art and reenactment for example
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I wonder...

www.dw.com

The selective penalty for swastikas in Germany – DW – 08/14/2018

Illegally displaying Nazi symbols in Germany can be punished by three years in jail. The ban broadly exempts art, but which works are allowed to show swastikas, SS sig runes and such is often more a matter of the medium.
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www.vox.com

Why you see swastikas in America but not Germany

It has a lot to do with our different views on free speech — and our different relationship to our histories.
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poweRob said:
I wonder...

www.dw.com

The selective penalty for swastikas in Germany – DW – 08/14/2018

Illegally displaying Nazi symbols in Germany can be punished by three years in jail. The ban broadly exempts art, but which works are allowed to show swastikas, SS sig runes and such is often more a matter of the medium.
www.dw.com www.dw.com

www.vox.com

Why you see swastikas in America but not Germany

It has a lot to do with our different views on free speech — and our different relationship to our histories.
www.vox.com www.vox.com
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I already posted that it is allowed Here for Art and reenactment
 
Rostocker said:
Oh really? They decide what you say, they decide what you eat.
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How so? Please be very specific, unless you just posted hyperbole.

They poison you, hold you down.
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Only if you let them and only the lame brains no different than anyone else doing it, whether corporations, individuals or government.

They bought your government.
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Right because in the rest of the world government is not influenced by anything. Don't be naive.
 
Trump Protected Twitter, facebook, Google etc from European countries threatened to hit them with a digital tax .... those companies among others went crying to Trump to protect them from EU taxes .... and that's how they treated him .... i don't like the man but it just shows how treacherous these companies are .... it's a certainty that the EU and other non EU nations including London will hit them with a digital tax
 
Rostocker said:
No, its plain and simple that. Private companies have no right to decide about what can be said and what not.

In Germany Twitter and Facebook are constantly forced by courts to put comments back online.
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It's a good job Trump isn't in Germany then.
 
Rostocker said:
No Union Repräsentation, No Minimum wage, No insurance. The scheme Operators as Fake self employed.
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Uber has similar problems in England where they are essentially self-employed:
www.reuters.com

Uber defends business model in UK court battle over workers' rights

Uber was defending its business model on Tuesday at Britain's Supreme Court in a battle over rights in the workplace that could have ramifications for millions of Britons earning a living in the gig economy.
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prometeus said:
I agree that the drivers are not self employed, the other aspects can easily remedied.
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Obviously not, since Uber was incapable to meet the standards here.

When it got serious they tried to ignore the law and made a big campaign that they start business here, with or without state agreements.

Nothing is deadlier than trying to open a business in a foreign nation and think you can break the law. They got yeeted.
 
Kushinator said:
Opinion noted.



Another opinion, noted but not shared.
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That uber is banned here is not an opinion, its a fact.

techcrunch.com

Uber’s ride-hailing business hit with ban in Germany – TechCrunch

Another legal blow for Uber in Europe: A regional court in Frankfurt has banned the company from sending ride-hailing requests to rental car companies via its app — with the court finding multiple competition violations. The ruling, over Uber’s dispatching process, follows a legal chall…
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Kushinator said:
Sanctimonious nonsense aside, you don't have a point. But you do make a good case as to why German tech startups are not as successful as their American counterparts.
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You aren't claiming Big Tech is American, are you?
 
joko104 said:
What? Most Democratic progressives now furiously oppose free speech and wildly support the richest white men on earth taking ownership of all news, info and social media outlets to then allow only political speech they approve of - and to remove any and all speech that is contrary to their personal and professional profit and power interests.

Outlawing the new international corporate fascist racist Democratic Party should have happened at the end of the Civil War, when the Democratic Party's richest white men in the United States - Southern slave owners - tried to create their own slave nation. Losing the civil war, the Democrats richest white men in the USA and on earth now must have their people-of-color slavery operations in foreign slavery factories they operate and own in other countries. Like before the Civil War, most Democrats again want the richest white men and slavers to run the country and control what anyone may say and hear.

History always repeats itself. The Democratic Party always reverts to worshipping rich white male slavers and love of corporate-fascist slavery operations against people-of-color on behalf of themselves and white people.
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And Leftists have been destroying small business, the downtown core where many poor and middle class people work and shop, making now their neighborhoods unsafe, forcing them on-line, and thereby making Amazon and similar companies richer, bigger and more powerful.

Amazon just put Parler out of business because they control the servers and these giants will soon own it all, Fox may even go as well. They, and the mayors and governors of leftist states have done what they can to destroy small business and I've come to believe it was deliberate.
 
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pamak said:
Again, the existing stance on freedom of speech is a result of conservatives and moderate progressives. Because none of them is a socialist democrat, this is also the reason why in the US corporations make decisions about what messages they should promote or not. And sorry, but it is fake news that liberals have taken ownership of all news. Murdoch was very conservative, and local news are also controlled to a large degree by a very conservative conglomerate called Sinclair
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You seem to be missing the point while using labels.

It does not matter whether Murdoch is liberal or conservative. He's be whatever the times call for in order to become richer and more powerful -and all these multi billionaires are the same. The labels we throw around on the lower levels, making it easier to think, are never used up there and it is foolish and naïve to think they do.

And how long do you think Sinclair, or any 'conservative' media will stay in business if Google, Amazon and the boys target them"?
 
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