Andrew Sullivan on Chris Matthews yesterday (1 Viewer)

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Yesterday, Andrew Sullivan (author of "The Conservative Soul") described exactly how I feel about John McCain.

MATTHEWS: Welcome back. Hari-Kerry. When John Kerry stumbled on the stump this week, you might say Christmas came early for every other White House contender. Right out of the gate, Kerry's old ally, John McCain, slammed him.

Senator JOHN McCAIN (Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes"/Tuesday): To somehow suggest that only those with lacking academic credentials are the ones who are serving is an insult to everyone of those young people and brave, young and old, who are serving in what I believe is a noble cause. . . .

MATTHEWS: Does anybody here really believe that John Kerry was making fun of the troops?

Mr. SULLIVAN: No...When I first heard the joke, that was my feeling: `oh.' But then when I saw the prepared remarks and I realized what he was trying to say, and Karl Rove and George Bush must've known that, too, he really wasn't trying to say that...

Mr. SULLIVAN: . . .McCain's selling point has always been integrity. I have been persuaded, I'm afraid. I love the guy. But he doesn't have any anymore. That what he did on the torture issue, by giving in to Karl Rove, and what he's done now, knowing full well Kerry didn't mean that, means he's gone as a man of integrity. . . .

http://www.thechrismatthewsshow.com/transcripts/11052006.shtml

I totally agree. That torture thing caused me to change my opinion of McCain, Warner, and Graham.....permanently. I expected better than this from a man who was a Prisoner of War for 5 years.

 

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Yesterday, Andrew Sullivan (author of "The Conservative Soul") described exactly how I feel about John McCain.

I totally agree. That torture thing caused me to change my opinion of McCain, Warner, and Graham.....permanently. I expected better than this from a man who was a Prisoner of War for 5 years.

Why any gay person would be a Republican is beyond me. Sullivan is a good man, trying to save his party from itself. I wish him luck!

 

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Why any gay person would be a Republican is beyond me. Sullivan is a good man, trying to save his party from itself. I wish him luck!

You know why I like him, hipster? He is a man of integrity. He lost respect for this administration and has spoken out against it, even though he is a republican (and like you, I cannot imagine how a gay person would be a republican). If I found that someone within my own party had compromised his/her integrity, I would no longer respect them. It's how I feel about Hillary Clinton. And it's my dislike for Hillary Clinton that caused me to be so forgiving of Bill Clinton (because I feel sorry for him). Anyway, I just have nothing but admiration when someone can attack someone within their own party.

 

[hipsterdufus]

You know why I like him, hipster? He is a man of integrity. He lost respect for this administration and has spoken out against it, even though he is a republican (and like you, I cannot imagine how a gay person would be a republican). If I found that someone within my own party had compromised his/her integrity, I would no longer respect them. It's how I feel about Hillary Clinton. And it's my dislike for Hillary Clinton that caused me to be so forgiving of Bill Clinton (because I feel sorry for him). Anyway, I just have nothing but admiration when someone can attack someone within their own party.

Well said APS.
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