AND YOU WANT MY GUNS???

[jaeger19]

Last time I'll explain this to you. I will allow you the last word should you respond.

Source control is preventing the infected from infecting the healthy. The CDC said that the best masks n95 when sealed properly only prevent 20 to 30 percent of infectious material from leaving the mask. The 70 to 80 percent allowed out of that source is well beyond what is necessary to infect. Hardly controlling that source. Which is why several actually comparison examples I have reviewed showed almost zero difference. Florida had schools with masks mandates and schools without them. Both had almost identical results. So if, as you keep suggesting, masks worked as a source control there should be a major difference in rates of infection. At least 20 to 30 percent given CDC numbers. There simply was almost no difference.

There are other examples that furthur prove the obvious.

Common sense says that if the source being controlled is able to release 70 to 80 percent of infectious material WITH EACH BREATH........IT ISNT BEING CONTROLLED. Especially since each breath releases virus well over that necessary to infect.

Even the news is beginning to chill on masks.

Sorry but nope.
A multitude of scientific studies shows you are completely wrong.
I get that you cannot understand why your hypothesis is dead wrong.
It's been explained to you..but you cannot understand the science.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

 

[jaeger19]

I'm watching the news as I type and real doctors are touting treatments. Similar to those DeSantis used to pull Florida out of trouble last year.

Twice now you have called me a moron. When it's you making the moronic statement that someone would willingly risk serious illness or death just to get natural immunity. They risk infection because they fear the shots not to get natural immunity. Those people who do recover are well protected according to the Israelis.

Yeah.. 1. DeSantis didn't do anything to pull Florida out of crisis. In fact he made it worse.
In fact ..if you were to talk to the majority of medical providers in Florida they would agree with me.
People risking death and hospitilization because they fear the vaccine Is ignoring science.
Those who recover might be protected. They might not be since the amount of exposure to virus is variable.
Unlike being vaccinated.
That's the science.
In fact studies have shown that those unvaccinated that had a prior infection were as much as 5 times more likely to be reinfected than someone fully vaccinated.

Vaccine offers more protection against COVID-19 than natural immunity, CDC study finds

Scientists analyzed data from patients hospitalized with COVID-19 symptoms through the Delta variant's surge.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Colin Norris]

There you go again, claiming you know what I know. That is the extent of your claims. It isn't difficult to refute.

How many fingers am I holding up?

That should be easy. Then you can tell me my motivation for buying my M1 carbine.

Why don't you admit it.
You have no regular use for nearly all the guns you own and you know it. You live under the pretence for protecting yourself rubbish, tyranny in government and that filthy 2nd.

You have no motivation for buying a killing machine other than your ego and you can.
That's a fact.

You all had you chance to justify them when Obama was elected.
You called him a communist, a Muslim and a tyrant. Never before had that opportunity ever rise for you t o have the courage to get rid of him. What did you do?
Nothing. Home of the brave????
I don't think so.

 

[Colin Norris]

What does a child's curiosity have to do with it? We are required to conceal the gun being carried. That means it's hidden. As in children don't know its there. Lol are you serious.

There are kids killed every week by guns left loaded in houses by their own parents. They kill themselves and others because they don't understand.

Do you really carry a gun to go shopping? How gutless are you?
Are you so afraid of people that the country has resorted to the wild west days again?

 

[RF667799]

Why don't you admit it.
You have no regular use for nearly all the guns you own and you know it. You live under the pretence for protecting yourself rubbish, tyranny in government and that filthy 2nd.

You have no motivation for buying a killing machine other than your ego and you can.
That's a fact.

You all had you chance to justify them when Obama was elected.
You called him a communist, a Muslim and a tyrant. Never before had that opportunity ever rise for you t o have the courage to get rid of him. What did you do?
Nothing. Home of the brave????
I don't think so.

Nearly all the guns I own? How many is that? Of the ones I do have a "regular use" for; how many are those and what are those uses?

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me. How can you honestly claim that your blind assumptions are facts?

 

[Colin Norris]

Nearly all the guns I own? How many is that? Of the ones I do have a "regular use" for; how many are those and what are those uses?

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me. How can you honestly claim that your blind assumptions are facts?

I don't care how many guns you own. You know I'm right but keep replying like a petulant child because you've been exposed.

I've finiished with you Rambo.
Blast away until your hearts content.

 

[Daddyo]

the bannerrhoid left wants to pretend that gun advocates -some of whom do not own guns-are gun worshippers when the bannerrhoid movement is a combination of the dishonest (those who claim crime control is their motive) and those who are cultists in the faith based fiction that gun control reduces crime

Some bannerhoids want them banned to facilitate their desired transition to socialism.

 

[Daddyo]

No he SHOT three people, two he killed and one he wounded. He was lucky that he didn;t wound or kill others with shooting them.
Rittenhouse had no idea who he was shooting.
If he based on his actions he had shot a retired school teacher and former police officer and a honor student... which he could just as easily have shot.. since he had no idea who he was shooting.
Would you be so happy.
I doubt it.

Rittenhouse is the worst example of a gun owner.

If the teacher, retired cop, and honor student had attacked him in the same manner as the child molester, wife beater, and illegal gun toter did then I would be happy he survived.

I must admit that I am happy it wasn't people of otherwise honorable backgrounds that tried to kill an innocent teen while violently destroy innocent peoples businesses.

 

[Daddyo]

Too bad the GOPukkke insurrectionists didn’t have CC—corrupt carry—a year ago, eh? **** your poor feelings dealing with the ‘anti gun’ movement.

The ‘big lies’ have always started with the nazified gop since the 1920s. Try dealing with the 20 Sandy Hook children with their faces blown apart with your WoWs—Weapons of War.

You mean the trespassing at the white house Jan 6th. The one that was so bad WH police allowed folks to enter even opening doors in some cases.

I saw 10 times worst happening in liberal shithole across the country and instead of disavowing the violent unrest your peeps bailed those arrested out of jail.

Instead of your people asking for peace they told supporters to "get in their faces".

You talk about 20 innocent children with ghastly injuries yet thousands die every year because you refuse to punish their killers for previous crimes.

You talk about 20 innocent children being killed by guns then support the killing of millions via abortion by supporting your abortionist politicians.

The hypocrisy is breath-taking.

Lastly take a long hard look at the agenda of us conservatives vs you liberals. You will find one group actively pushing this country toward a nazi like end. Hint......it ain't conservatives. You can tout fringe groups that support the GOP because of the immigration issue and I can tout your parties agenda.........the whole parties agenda! Not just a fringe group who the vast majority of conservative reject.

 

[RF667799]

I don't care how many guns you own. You know I'm right but keep replying like a petulant child because you've been exposed.

I've finiished with you Rambo.
Blast away until your hearts content.

You sure look like you're caring about how many guns I own when you make claims as to their numbers. How have I been exposed? The only thing exposed is your inability to support any of the venom you were spraying around.

 

[soylentgreen]

Umm... you are the one that lives in fear. You took property away from law abiding citizens just because of your fear.
Good little sheeple..

You can dress it up that way if it makes you feel better. But I am not the one arguing that I cannot even get my kids to school without carrying a gun for protection against the boogy man.

 

[soylentgreen]

Is it fear that drives gun control advocates to advocate for more gun control?

You would have a point there. After all that is what fear does best. Generate more fear.

 

[soylentgreen]

Let us discuss what TRULY causes a foreigner to spend hours upon hours complaining about our gun ownership and wanting to get rid of the second amendment and ban guns (a claim he used to deny but finally came clean)

We should also discuss a failed lawyers trick of making the person the issue instead of the argument for guns that they fail to make.

 

[soylentgreen]

What does a child's curiosity have to do with it? We are required to conceal the gun being carried. That means it's hidden. As in children don't know its there. Lol are you serious.

I am going to assume you do not have children.

Still does not get you pass the issue of the shame you must feel that you feel the need to hide your actions from children.

And really does not get you pass the fact that it is still a more stupid thing to do than a sensible thing to do. Apart from pretending in a right to be stupid with a gun you seem to have no real reason to bring a gun to school. Just a reminder that you have not answered the question of why you think america is a crime ridden shithole.

 

[poppopfox]

What are we supposed to be open minded about?

Everything

 

[poppopfox]

5) constantly make childish and insulting comments about ...

the bannerrhoid left wants to pretend that gun advocates -some of whom do not own guns-are gun worshippers when the bannerrhoid movement is a combination of the dishonest (those who claim crime control is their motive) and those who are cultists in the faith based fiction that gun control reduces crime

 

[Rucker61]

Everything

And you too, right?

 

[poppopfox]

And you too, right?

Buddhist ideals may promote open-mindedness

Open Mind Zen

 

[TurtleDude]

to 4991

I don't hide my contempt for the anti gun movement, nor do I conceal my motives for bashing it

 

[Rucker61]

Buddhist ideals may promote open-mindedness

Open Mind Zen

Sorry, not likely to be open-minded about religion other that to embrace them all equally - that is, not at all.

 

[Rich2018]

There is a difference. You have shown you care much more about gun control than you do suicides.

So now you accept that there ***IS*** a link between the availability of guns, and the suicide rate ?

I note how you've given up trying to refute such a weight of evidence, and rather than admit you are wrong, you shift the goal posts to focus on an Ad-Hom attack.

 

[OpportunityCost]

So now you accept that there ***IS*** a link between the availability of guns, and the suicide rate ? I note how you've given up trying to refute such a weight of evidence, and rather than admit you are wrong, you shift the goal posts to focus on an Ad-Hom attack.

Nope, every single one of those studies is investing in their hypothetical model.

All I said was that suicide rates are a tool to you to be used to ban guns, you do not actually care about suicide as an issue.

 

[Rich2018]

Nope, every single one of those studies is investing in their hypothetical model.

No, they're all a result of studies that show there ***IS*** a link, I doubt if you looked at any of them

The weight of evidence is against your personal opinion

But you're not the kind of guy to ever admit you're wrong are you ?

Despite offering zero evidence to the contrary, you prefer to pretend you're right and everyone else is wrong.

Pathetic.

All I said was that suicide rates are a tool to you to be used to ban guns, you do not actually care about suicide as an issue.

No, they're not

The suicide rate, like the rate of mass shootings, is just another reason to ban guns
Just another way how banning guns both saves lives and increases public safety.

 

[poppopfox]

Sorry, not likely to be open-minded about religion other that to embrace them all equally - that is, not at all.

I follow a Buddhist philosophy, not a religion. Buddha is just one of many teachers we have been given through the course of history to learn from, but not if the mind is closed to their insight!

 

[Rucker61]

I follow a Buddhist philosophy, not a religion. Buddha is just one of many teachers we have been given through the course of history to learn from, but not if the mind is closed to their insight!

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