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And this from a Pastor... a man of God

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A pastor in Sanford, Florida, has had t-shirts made up. He embellished a bit, of course - by adding "Murdered Me" after the "Creepy Ass Cracker" comment. The ironic part of this? He "said" he was doing it as a way to deal with the racial divide head on. Now how, exactly, is this going to "help heal the racial divide" by making up a t-shirt calling someone a cracker? While "cracker" doesn't hold the negative connotations that the "n" word does, it's still a racial slur. What would happen in Sanford if someone came up wearing a t-shirt that called someone a "creepy ass n-word"? This makes me so angry. I am so tired of people jumping on their soap box, calling for racial unity, when in all actuality, he is either (1) doing this to further the divide (my idea) or (2) doing this to sell t-shirts (Hub's idea). Sorry, /rant off. I swear, there will never, ever be an end to racism. Ever. We can say all we want that this country will eventually get past it, but honestly? We won't. It will be this way from now on. :(
 

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A pastor in Sanford, Florida, has had t-shirts made up. He embellished a bit, of course - by adding "Murdered Me" after the "Creepy Ass Cracker" comment. The ironic part of this? He "said" he was doing it as a way to deal with the racial divide head on. Now how, exactly, is this going to "help heal the racial divide" by making up a t-shirt calling someone a cracker? While "cracker" doesn't hold the negative connotations that the "n" word does, it's still a racial slur. What would happen in Sanford if someone came up wearing a t-shirt that called someone a "creepy ass n-word"? This makes me so angry. I am so tired of people jumping on their soap box, calling for racial unity, when in all actuality, he is either (1) doing this to further the divide (my idea) or (2) doing this to sell t-shirts (Hub's idea). Sorry, /rant off. I swear, there will never, ever be an end to racism. Ever. We can say all we want that this country will eventually get past it, but honestly? We won't. It will be this way from now on. :(
Does he have an online store?
 

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First, you can’t compare cracker to the n-word. There is ZERO history of oppression behind the word cracker. Comparing the two words is just silly.

That said, it is a stupid shirt and it looks like they are trying use the kid’s death as a marketing ploy, which is far worse than the actual language used on the shirt.
 

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First, you can’t compare cracker to the n-word. There is ZERO history of oppression behind the word cracker. Comparing the two words is just silly.

That said, it is a stupid shirt and it looks like they are trying use the kid’s death as a marketing ploy, which is far worse than the actual language used on the shirt.
A a matter of personal cognitive policy, I consider the phrase "you can't compare" to be the end of any sentence involved in rational debate.
 

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The title is in accurate, which is clarified in the article.
She didn't trademark his name.
She registered (®) a trademark of two phrases which contain his name.

'I AM TRAYVON' and 'Justice For Trayvon'
So she and her family won't be making money off his death?

Seems they already have.
 

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So she and her family won't be making money off his death?

Seems they already have.
Just saying the title was wrong.

And I never said they weren't.



But yes, they are making money off of his death.
And those two phrases are nothing.
 

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First, you can’t compare cracker to the n-word. There is ZERO history of oppression behind the word cracker. Comparing the two words is just silly.
You CAN compare them, in the same fashion that one CAN compare something like the plight of African American's in this country to that of gays (both have suffered significant injustices and hardships, but slavery clearly makes the plight of african americans in this country historically greater in severity).

By that I mean you CAN compare them in terms of their base intent and meaning. Cracker is a slur based on race. Nigger is a slur based on race. They CAN be compraed in that fashion. You can also compare them in terms of severity, but in doing so one looks like a joke if they suggest that the severity is EQUAL or even anywhere close to that.

While putting "cracker" on a shirt is not going to illicite the same degree of severity in terms of racial strife, the fact it is a racial slur is still likely to cause SOME. Suggesting it'd be as bad as putting "nigger" on a shirt or cause as much of an uproar would be retarded. Suggesting that putting racial slurs on shirts, regardless of the severity of said slur, isn't. The fact they are both racial slurs is comparable, even if the severity of the two isn't.
 
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