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An unholy alliance threatening catastrophe

jujuman13 said:
Do you, who post here, think that this article is a true possibility of what is in the mind of Bush?.
Naturally Poodle Teflon Tony will go along with whatever Dubya suggests.
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An unholy alliance threatening catastrophe - Comment - Times Online
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Saudi Arabia has an impressive army, they have a lot of modern weapons, especially a strong air force there. With Saudi-Arabians denying US troops to use their bases in Saudi-Arabia during the war against Iraq in 2003 I have some hope, they don't plan to join this alliance.
 
cherokee said:
I stopped read after "execution-assassination of Saddam Hussein"
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You stopped there? In this case you really did not read much of the article :mrgreen:
 
The term "unholy aliance" is a shia term. Those who are pro-shia and pro-Iranian attempting to creat a propaganda storm in the media to prevent action against Iran and Iraq's puppet government.

It is, necessary and beneficial, in the interests of world peace to make certain that Iran is never allowed to posess nuclear weapons. Furthermore, it is absolutely necessary to prevent Iran's radical shia government from spreading its foul stench throughout the middle east.

Iran has been little more than a constant threat to world peace for the last three decades. If they [Iran] are not kept in check, they will spread thier radicalized islam-o-nazi nonsense all over the middle east.

I believe the first step in this process to be the removal of Iraq's Iranian-influenced shiite governemnt. The next step is to deal with the useless, hate spreading scumbags, like Muqtada Al Sadar and Hassan Nesrallah. After that, we can then begin the process of keeping Iranian ideology (toltaliterianism/terrorism) inside the borders of Iran.

The final step in acheiving peace in the middle east is to pressure the Iranian people into revolting against the Mullahs and the Ayetoiletbowl. Once these Shia scum are removed from power and new and peaceful Iranian government can be constructed. Then end game in this situation is the execution of the mullahs, the ayetoiletbowl, and his presidental stooge... aminjerkball.

:mrgreen:
 
Vader said:
The term "unholy aliance" is a shia term. Those who are pro-shia and pro-Iranian attempting to creat a propaganda storm in the media to prevent action against Iran and Iraq's puppet government.
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I doubt this. The "Holy Alliance" actually existed, the term is widekly known in Europe among people who are interested in history.

I would rather think the author knew the term and changed it "Unholy Alliance" for his headline.

Holy Alliance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Again you invent things to transport your hatered propaganda.
 

Nice try ... oh brainwashed one!

Your religon brainwashes people into blowing themselves up ... mine does not. So tell me again ... WHO IS SPREADING HATE PROPAGANDA?

 
Vader said:
Nice try ... oh brainwashed one!

Your religon brainwashes people into blowing themselves up ... mine does not. So tell me again ... WHO IS SPREADING HATE PROPAGANDA?

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You are spreading hate propaganda.
 
Volker said:
You are spreading hate propaganda.
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No, that would be you and a huge number of your fellow muslims.

Remember ... your religion turns its children into suicide bombers, advocates violence against non-islamics everywhere, and seeks to undermine peace wherever it exist.

:doh
 
Vader said:
No, that would be you and a huge number of your fellow muslims.

Remember ... your religion turns its children into suicide bombers, advocates violence against non-islamics everywhere, and seeks to undermine peace wherever it exist.

:doh
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You are doing it again.
 
Vader said:
Shut up already.

You lost.... learn to accept it.
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I gave a source about the "Holy Alliance" and why I think it this is the background the author was using for the headline.

Your argument was, "Unholy Alliance" is a Shia term and it is used by the author and that's why this article is propaganda. You did not give any evidence for your position.

Give an evidence and we have something to talk about.
 

My thoughts on it are that most people who are muslims believe that it's an unholy alliance. They use the term "holy" to influence the brainwashed masses into being angry at Israel, America, Brittan, and other such countries because it allows them [Islamic clerics/brainwashers/terrorists] to control the minds of their people.

Whereas, most christians would say that there is nothing wrong with the US working with the Saudis to keep Iran's terrorist government in check.

Iran has long needed a new government that was not run by the ayeashitbag and his mullah stooges. The Saudis are offering to help the Iraqis keep Iraq from turning into Iran Phase II. The Shitte (no offense to you personally) scumbags don't like this and have called it the "unholy alliance" so that they can use the people against themselves.

Again, we call this tactic terrorist propaganda because that is exactly what it is.

I think Iran and Syria are an unholy alliance that should be forbidden under internation law... at least until both coutries have a non-terrorist government.
 
So because Shia's use the word "holy", a headline containing the term "unholy alliance" is a Shia term and the author of this article used the term and that's why this article is propaganda.

This is very logical :roll:
 
Volker said:
So because Shia's use the word "holy", a headline containing the term "unholy alliance" is a Shia term and the author of this article used the term and that's why this article is propaganda.

This is very logical :roll:
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The shia use the "term unholy" aliance to drive fear into the heart of the populace. The shia government is afraid it will lose power and is using every means at its disposal to fight it.

The shia want vengence against the sunni ... this is to be expected but it never accepted. The shia influence in Iran's polluted governemnt is spilling out into Iraq. This is not good. For this reason alone, I favor Saudi backing of the Sunni Arabs in Iraq. Not only will the shia militias be stopped, the Iranian scumlords will be forced to remove their sorry asses from Iraqi politics.

In any event, the purpose of the aforementioned article is to make the public fear change. As such, it is being used as propaganda and therefore it itself IS propaganda.
 
Vader said:
For this reason alone, I favor Saudi backing of the Sunni Arabs in Iraq.
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And here I thought the reason would be, you attract less attention in Saudi Arabia the way you are dressed according to your avatar :mrgreen:
 
Vader said:
Nice try ... oh brainwashed one!

Your religon brainwashes people into blowing themselves up ... mine does not. So tell me again ... WHO IS SPREADING HATE PROPAGANDA?

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His religion does that, very bad.. Our religion, Christianity lead us to believe going to war to force christian traditions on others is ok.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
His religion does that, very bad.. Our religion, Christianity lead us to believe going to war to force christian traditions on others is ok.
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This is not my religion, I don't have a religion and I never had one.
I only enjoy Vader making suppositions about my religion :mrgreen:

Christianity should not lead someone to believe this, even though there were many Christians who preached this and maybe some still do.
 

Germany is a christian country.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Germany is a christian country.
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This is East Germany, every religion is a minority here, about 70 % of the people here do not have a religion, people who have a religion here often are immigrants.
 
Volker said:
This is East Germany, every religion is a minority here, about 70 % of the people here do not have a religion, people who have a religion here often are immigrants.
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That doesnt mean that Germany is not a Christian country..

I myself would classify myself as atheist, but I belive in the goodness of Jesus Christ and saints. But again I also believe that every man should strive to be a mix of Jesus Christ and Leonardo Da Vinci.
So that would make me sacreligious and religious at the same time, even if I consider myself atheist.

The point here is that all or most of the western nations are christian nations.

Dont even try to tell me that Germany never went to war to force their ideas on others.. Like most christian nations have done.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
That doesnt mean that Germany is not a Christian country..
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I don't consider Germany to be a Christian country.

Maximus Zeebra said:
I myself would classify myself as atheist, but I belive in the goodness of Jesus Christ and saints. But again I also believe that every man should strive to be a mix of Jesus Christ and Leonardo Da Vinci.
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Really? I was always thinking every man should strive to be a mix of me and David Bowie, but you can be correct here, too :mrgreen:

Maximus Zeebra said:
So that would make me sacreligious and religious at the same time, even if I consider myself atheist.
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It seems to work for you.

Maximus Zeebra said:
The point here is that all or most of the western nations are christian nations.
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They have a Christian past and some of them are still strongly influenced by Christianity.

Maximus Zeebra said:
Dont even try to tell me that Germany never went to war to force their ideas on others.. Like most christian nations have done.
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Occassionally Germans went to war and forced Christianity to other people using the sword.
 
Volker said:
I don't consider Germany to be a Christian country.
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I think most people do.. Germany have a strong Christian influence and a christian culture.

Volker said:
Really? I was always thinking every man should strive to be a mix of me and David Bowie, but you can be correct here, too :mrgreen: .
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Isnt David Bowie gay?

Volker said:
It seems to work for you.
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Still trying.

Volker said:
They have a Christian past and some of them are still strongly influenced by Christianity.
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All of them have a culture that is strongly dominated by chrsitian values.

Volker said:
Occassionally Germans went to war and forced Christianity to other people using the sword.
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...and tanks and planes.(to force their values on others like the US is doing now)
 
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