An open letter to Mr. khizr-khan

[Grand Mal]

So this dead soldier is Trump's fault?

Non Sequitur | Definition of Non Sequitur by Merriam-Webster

 

[Fearandloathing]

Mr. Khan disgraced his son by allowing himself to be used as a DNC pawn, and his son as a poster child selling the idea that a Muslim soldiers' service us somehow greater than others. The article speaks for itself.

The DNC found a symphatec immigrant and used him like a $2.00 whore.

An open letter to Mr. Khizr Khan | Fox News

Just when you see the whole blarney show called Trump slithering in the gutter, you think it can't get any uglier. And then you post trash like this. I always thought the Republican party was all about 'national security' and having a strong standing army. Republicans went bat **** crazy when some Vietnam vets had to be escorted out of a federal park. We simply had to have months and months of "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi" hearings, hearings, hearings.....all in the name of standing up for those who serve.

What a crock.

Now, we see the real Republican Party, the gang of rich hypocrites who have to heap scorn on a man who lost a son...simply because it suits the needs of the baby-man, "Dear Leader" Trump Jung Il, whose is too thin skinned to be bettered without going terrible two childish.

That's small, tiny in fact. Especially coming from a little rich kid who had millions dropped in his lap. That cheap gutter snipe has never sacrificed anything for anyone; when he's done using his women he dumps them

What a huge bunch of vacuous, hypocrites. That's the real Republican party. They're just hard to see through the piles of bull****.

 

[Mycroft]

This is... amazing. Trump and the GOP invited a grieving mother to sob on the stage about the son she lost... and to blame Hillary Clinton personally, saying she should be in prison for it.

But tissue-skinned Donald goes all PMS if another grieving family talks about their loss and criticizes Trump for ignoring the sacrifice when he demeans his, and their, religion. To Trump, that was a "vicious attack against" him. Having a grief-stricken family call Hillary basically a murderer and scream that she should be in prison for her son's death, hey, in Trumpsville that is A-okay!

Double standard, anyone?

Not a double standard at all...in fact, the two situations are quite different.

In one, the mother outright accuses Hillary of lying to her face...a lie, I might add, that Hillary told numerous times to the entire American public.

In the other, a man displays indignant outrage over a straw man that he directed toward Trump. In reality, the man assigns attitudes to Trump that Trump has never displayed. Furthermore, it is quite likely that this man's biggest problem with Trump is the threat to the man's source of income if Trump defeats Hillary.

Now...for me, personally, I know these two political parties will both play their "gotcha" games. I don't really care. I've already made up my mind who I'm going to vote for and why. I won't change my mind. But when I read stuff from people in this forum that flies in the face of reason and logic, I'm compelled to attempt to set things straight.

 

[dimensionallava]

Not a double standard at all...in fact, the two situations are quite different.

In one, the mother outright accuses Hillary of lying to her face...a lie, I might add, that Hillary told numerous times to the entire American public.

In the other, a man displays indignant outrage over a straw man that he directed toward Trump. In reality, the man assigns attitudes to Trump that Trump has never displayed. Furthermore, it is quite likely that this man's biggest problem with Trump is the threat to the man's source of income if Trump defeats Hillary.

Now...for me, personally, I know these two political parties will both play their "gotcha" games. I don't really care. I've already made up my mind who I'm going to vote for and why. I won't change my mind. But when I read stuff from people in this forum that flies in the face of reason and logic, I'm compelled to attempt to set things straight.

what strawman donald trump wants muslims banned/deported from this country so do most republicans. which is disrespectful to every muslim american and muslim soldier in the military

all hillary did was not confess to your weird conspiracy theory about her, a conspiracy theory that no republican would even be talking about if she wasn't running for president.

 

[Mycroft]

what strawman donald trump wants muslims banned/deported from this country so do most republicans. which is disrespectful to every muslim american and muslim soldier in the military

LOL!!

Now I understand your difficulty. You not only buy into the same strawman, but you add in a totally unsubstantiated...and outright unrealistic, I might add...claim about "most Republicans".

 

[molten_dragon]

It's hard for you Hillary loyalists to accept the fact that Hillary and her DNC travelers use people as props

Well, I'm not a Hillary Loyalist, but I can see that just fine. What's hard for me to accept is that you can't seem to see that the Republicans do the exact same thing.

 

[chuckiechan]

While a number of points he makes are legitimate, the majority of the letter is born of CT crap - and when I followed the link to his own website, at the bottom of the letter he wrote, I can understand better why the letter had the tone it has.

While I feel that Mr. Khan and the Democrats are dishonorably using Captain Khan and his personal sacrifice for this country as a political pawn in this election season, I do not blame the parents. I blame the Democrats for their shameful exploitation of a hero's ultimate sacrifice as if he had done so to allow them to use his death and service as a hammer to bash Republicans about the head.

Trump is being shameful in much of his responses to the Khans. Yet what he is doing is no more shameful than what the Democrats, and their advocates in the media, are doing to the memory and service of Captain Khan.

Yet, the OP letter is hyperbolic, in bad taste, and extremely bad form for a former officer in the US military.

While I like that you understood the game being played, I disagree with your opinion of the officer who wrote the letter. He did not lose his right to disagree, and voice his opinions when he left the service. I suspect if his opinion was in line with Mr. Khan's, he'd be "A brave American".

Trump should have said nothing, but in the opinion of many Americans take Muslim efforts to gain sympathy as a political ploy. Exactly what did Mr. Khan's son's religion have to do with the price of real in China?

As I taught my kids "If you want sympathy, go to church".

I'm pleased to see everyone is more rational after a good night's sleep.

 

[jmotivator]

There are a few of these such letters posted online now and they all say relatively the same thing..."Mr. Khan, while I respect your son's sacrifice, you should've taken the opportunity to speak out against radical terrorist." Maybe he should have, but since the purpose of him speaking seemed to be to:

1) illustrate that not all Muslims in America have been radicalized by Islamist's;

2) there are Muslim-Americans who have served (and are serving) in our Armed Services; and,

3) to challenge Donald Trump on what he's sacrificed/given back to the country that bore him.

...it's understandable that he limited his talking points to Trump's character and convictions. But in essence, I agree that Mr. Khan could and should've used his platform on stage to challenge American Muslims to denounce radical Islam, as well as, fight back against anti-Muslim rhetoric in America.

So his entire purpose was to walk onstage and state logical fallacies.

 

[prometeus]

Mr. Khan disgraced his son by allowing himself to be used as a DNC pawn

The only disgrace here is that of the dimwits who defend a despicable act and embrace a bigoted rant by a moron who in turn IS disgracing himself and the Army.

 

[Paperview]

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In the other, a man displays indignant outrage over a straw man that he directed toward Trump. In reality, the man assigns attitudes to Trump that Trump has never displayed.
... But when I read stuff from people in this forum that flies in the face of reason and logic, I'm compelled to attempt to set things straight.

How's this latest snafu working out for Trump?

Have a gander at his poll numbers lately?

 

[prometeus]

Open letter to Mr. Khan.



Dear Mr. Khan,

How much money do you stand to lose if Mr. Trump becomes President?

Sincerely,

Mycroft

Bravo, you have managed to achieve a new low.

 

[chuckiechan]

As I recall the DNC wasn't so supportive of Pat Smith, the outspoken mother of one of the Navy Seals killed at Benghazi. The Democrats, mocked her and smeared her, and the MSM joined in with artillery support.

Why? It can only be because she was a hold star mother against Hillary Clinton, he son was not a Muslim.

As a Democrat, that sounds fair to me!

Spare me the crocodile tears!

 

[chuckiechan]

What a wicked Web we weave:

Clinton Cash: Khizr Khan’s Deep Legal, Financial Connections to Saudi Arabia, Hillary’s Clinton Foundation Tie Terror, Immigration, Email Scandals Together - Breitbart

Mr Khan's is connected to the Clinton Foundation, and is an immigration attorney who specializes in getting Muslims to the front of the line.

But until now, it looked like the Khans were just Gold Star parents who the big bad Donald Trump attacked. It turns out, however, in addition to being Gold Star parents, the Khans are financially and legally tied deeply to the industry of Muslim migration–and to the government of Saudi Arabia and to the Clintons themselves.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Not a double standard at all...in fact, the two situations are quite different.

In one, the mother outright accuses Hillary of lying to her face...a lie, I might add, that Hillary told numerous times to the entire American public.

In the other, a man displays indignant outrage over a straw man that he directed toward Trump. In reality, the man assigns attitudes to Trump that Trump has never displayed. Furthermore, it is quite likely that this man's biggest problem with Trump is the threat to the man's source of income if Trump defeats Hillary.

Now...for me, personally, I know these two political parties will both play their "gotcha" games. I don't really care. I've already made up my mind who I'm going to vote for and why. I won't change my mind. But when I read stuff from people in this forum that flies in the face of reason and logic, I'm compelled to attempt to set things straight.

Straw man?


You drank the coolaid didn't you

 

[Paperview]

What a wicked Web we weave:

Clinton Cash: Khizr Khan’s Deep Legal, Financial Connections to Saudi Arabia, Hillary’s Clinton Foundation Tie Terror, Immigration, Email Scandals Together - Breitbart

Mr Khan's is connected to the Clinton Foundation, and is an immigration attorney who specializes in getting Muslims to the front of the line.

“This is the time for us American Muslims to rat out any traitor who walks amongst us. This is high time for Muslims to stand firm [against terrorists]...Among us hides the enemies of the value system of this country. And we need to defend it. And if it means ratting out the traitors who hide behind an American passport, that’s what we need to do.”

Guess who said it?

 

[Deuce]

Not a double standard at all...in fact, the two situations are quite different.

In one, the mother outright accuses Hillary of lying to her face...a lie, I might add, that Hillary told numerous times to the entire American public.

In the other, a man displays indignant outrage over a straw man that he directed toward Trump. In reality, the man assigns attitudes to Trump that Trump has never displayed. Furthermore, it is quite likely that this man's biggest problem with Trump is the threat to the man's source of income if Trump defeats Hillary.

Now...for me, personally, I know these two political parties will both play their "gotcha" games. I don't really care. I've already made up my mind who I'm going to vote for and why. I won't change my mind. But when I read stuff from people in this forum that flies in the face of reason and logic, I'm compelled to attempt to set things straight.

No, the argument has been about using the parents of the fallen for political gain, which Donald Trump was absolutely doing.

 

[Objective Voice]

All these talking points are nothing more that a straw man attack directed at Trump at the behest of the Democratic Party. His [Mr. Khan] motivation is the money he'll lose if Trump becomes President and temporarily restricts Muslim immigration into the US. Mr. Khan makes his livelihood from helping such people get their green cards.

Mr. Khan has dragged his own son's memory through the political mud for the sake of a dollar or 500,000.

And yet, isn't it the Republican Party who generally declares that a person is an island unto himself and should do what's in his own best interest in order to be profitable? Seems to me you're being very hypercritical here simply because the attacker happens to be a Democrat. Still, even if what you say is true - that he's protecting his own business interests, hasn't Donald Trump done the same by virtue of filing for countless bankruptcies to pay less than he owns his former employees/contractors/sub-contractors?

 

[Objective Voice]

So his entire purpose was to walk onstage and state logical fallacies.

Where did Mr. Khan's logic fail him, sir?

 

[upsideguy]

Too bad the DNC couldn't find a blind Mr. Khan in wheelchair and his wife in gay colors en mufti to wheel out for extra points.

It's hard for you Hillary loyalists to accept the fact that Hillary and her DNC travelers use people as props, and like a magicians audience, play all on with the fag, straight faced!

Wake, grow up, and don't act horrified like you were born last night. You know exactly what is going on, kiddies.

THE DNC couldn't care less their son is dead carrying out Obama failed policies.

Sorry that the RNC could not come up with anything better than the Trump family, the Duck dynasty guy and Scott Baio. Sorry their candidate has so many warts, no one in their right mind will be seen on stage with him.

 

[upsideguy]

So his entire purpose was to walk onstage and state logical fallacies.

You mean like the letter that was incorporated in the OP?

I do say, the letter had a nice beginning. But, of course, it just had to sink into the never, never land of schoolyard name calling and racist fear-mongering.

 

[Mycroft]

How's this latest snafu working out for Trump?

Have a gander at his poll numbers lately?

Why do you assume that I care about Trump's poll numbers? Just because I am disgusted by a man dragging the good name of his dead son through the political mud hole?

 

[Mycroft]

Bravo, you have managed to achieve a new low.

shrug...

I think it's a valid question...but I certainly don't expect Mr. Khan to expose his motives by answering.

 

[Mycroft]

Straw man?


You drank the coolaid didn't you

Nope. No cool aide. Just unafraid acceptance of reality.

You should try it.

 

[Mycroft]

No, the argument has been about using the parents of the fallen for political gain, which Donald Trump was absolutely doing.

???

Who is using the Kham family for political gain???

Who had them talk at their convention?

Do you even know what's going on?

 

[Mycroft]

And yet, isn't it the Republican Party who generally declares that a person is an island unto himself and should do what's in his own best interest in order to be profitable? Seems to me you're being very hypercritical here simply because the attacker happens to be a Democrat. Still, even if what you say is true - that he's protecting his own business interests, hasn't Donald Trump done the same by virtue of filing for countless bankruptcies to pay less than he owns his former employees/contractors/sub-contractors?

Oh...I don't mind Mr. Khan protecting his own business interests...but he should be honest about it. Instead, he's playing this "you hate Muslims", "You haven't sacrificed", "You have a black soul" game.

If Mr. Khan just came out and told Trump that his proposal would cost Mr. Khan his livelihood, that would be fair. Of course, if he did that then everyone would find out just how Mr. Khan makes his money. That would pretty much invalidate anything the man has to say.