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An Alternative to "War"

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Ok, hear me out.

I've come up with a alternative for war, to lesson the amount of destruction and damage to the warring parties infrustructure and to save allot of money.

We can spend the money saved on " health care for illegals or whatever the libz are currently whining about.

Since we cannot seem to stifle our destructive instincts why don't we turn it over to powerful computers.

With each side possesing a computer that has the capabillity of launching hypothetical attacks and then calculating the lives lost post attack.

A treaty would have to be agreed upon, that mandates that the computers count, after an attack of dead personel, either millitary or civillian be accounted for by real victims.

So, if say Moscow launched an " attack " on Detroit or San Fransisco, ( I know wishful thinking ) our Computer would calculate probable dead.

Both ours and the Ruskiess computers would agree, and those individuals named as Casulties would have to report to " disintigration" chambers.

Same would apply for battlefields.

IF one country did not fulfill the count, ( observers would make sure people weren't skipping out on their civic duties) then normal conventional war would resume with REAL weapons as a violation of the treaty would state.

What would this save ? It would save us the cost of mobilizing massive amounts of ordinance and personel. It would save us the destruction of our infrastructure and the destruction of private property.
 

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I've always advocated management by AI since humans are so dishonest and self-serving.

It will take time....
 

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Seth MacFarlane does Captain Kirk in the
"Star Trek" episode that you're referring to.

Seth MacFarlane does Captain Kirk - YouTube

Lol !!

Wow, there at least one Trekkie here, well plus me.

But the fact I stold the idea aside.....I knew someone would out me, didn't think it would happen in two post...its still a interesting concept.
 

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Such loyalty to the government!

Civilian 1: (beep, beep) Jee, I guess my time is up. I better go to disintegrate myself for the computer calculated it so.

Civilian 2: Honey! Are you alright back there!! Just keep breathing okay, just like the doc (beep, beep)... Gosh darn it! I guess my time is up hun. I must disintegrate for the computer calculated it so. I better let someone else drive you to the hospital. Cheers!

Civilian 3: Alright stick em up!! This is a robbery!! (beep, beep). As I said stick em up, quick!!!
 

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Ok, hear me out.

I've come up with a alternative for war, to lesson the amount of destruction and damage to the warring parties infrustructure and to save allot of money.

We can spend the money saved on " health care for illegals or whatever the libz are currently whining about.

Since we cannot seem to stifle our destructive instincts why don't we turn it over to powerful computers.

With each side possesing a computer that has the capabillity of launching hypothetical attacks and then calculating the lives lost post attack.

A treaty would have to be agreed upon, that mandates that the computers count, after an attack of dead personel, either millitary or civillian be accounted for by real victims.

So, if say Moscow launched an " attack " on Detroit or San Fransisco, ( I know wishful thinking ) our Computer would calculate probable dead.

Both ours and the Ruskiess computers would agree, and those individuals named as Casulties would have to report to " disintigration" chambers.

Same would apply for battlefields.

IF one country did not fulfill the count, ( observers would make sure people weren't skipping out on their civic duties) then normal conventional war would resume with REAL weapons as a violation of the treaty would state.

What would this save ? It would save us the cost of mobilizing massive amounts of ordinance and personel. It would save us the destruction of our infrastructure and the destruction of private property.

Would you like to play a game?
 

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Would you like to play a game?


Ooohh, great Movie. Either "War Games" or Terminator's SkyNet becoming self aware, either one of those secnario's could have been easily stopped with a hardline disconnect option.
 

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Such loyalty to the government!


Civilian 1: (beep, beep) Jee, I guess my time is up. I better go to disintegrate myself for the computer calculated it so.

Civilian 2: Honey! Are you alright back there!! Just keep breathing okay, just like the doc (beep, beep)... Gosh darn it! I guess my time is up hun. I must disintegrate for the computer calculated it so. I better let someone else drive you to the hospital. Cheers!

Civilian 3: Alright stick em up!! This is a robbery!! (beep, beep). As I said stick em up, quick!!!


NOT to aa Government, to AI, and remember we WOULD be at war.

So everyone of your scenario's could happen with a Conventional strike too.
 

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Ooohh, great Movie. Either "War Games" or Terminator's SkyNet becoming self aware, either one of those secnario's could have been easily stopped with a hardline disconnect option.

And if I remember correctly, hard line disconnect didn't work on this one. ;)

 

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NOT to aa Government, to AI, and remember we WOULD be at war.

So everyone of your scenario's could happen with a Conventional strike too.

Suppose it could work for robots.
 

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No, No, NO.

You cannot have the AI I am building to run the world. It has to zap all socialist (read liberals, progressives, lefties, commies, etc) first and then I am programming it to run the world the way I want. It's my AI, so I get to use it the way I want!
 
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