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Amnesty International Wants Bush Prosecuted for Admitted Waterboarding

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Amnesty International Calls to Prosecute Bush for Admitted Waterboarding

(Nov. 10) -- Amnesty International is calling for the prosecution of George W. Bush following the former president's admission to authorizing waterboarding techniques, according to a report on the human rights group's website.

"Under international law, anyone involved in torture must be brought to justice, and that does not exclude former President George W. Bush," Amnesty International Senior Director Claudio Cordone said in a statement. "If his admission is substantiated, the USA has the obligation to prosecute him. In the absence of a U.S. investigation, other states must step in and carry out such an investigation themselves."
I support this and basically feel that these activities constitute a war crime.
 

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I am shocked that liberals would want to see GB prosecuted ! Shocked I tell you !!! :roll:

Has MENSA called for the prosecution of Obama yet for being the dumbest President ever ? Whassup wit dat !
 

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If this gets legs, then we'll have an opportunity to more closely define torture in light of the treaties and laws that exist on the subject. Is waterboarding torture? There's sure to be a debate.
It seems we have been doing all of those things for years now.
 

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If this gets legs, then we'll have an opportunity to more closely define torture in light of the treaties and laws that exist on the subject. Is waterboarding torture? There's sure to be a debate.
If it were done to American soldiers, the answer would be yes.

As far as prosecuting the former President: Gentlemen. Thanks for your imput.
 

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I want Amnesty International and the U.N banned from the U.S. and Obama impeached for violation of his oath of office.

A new LAW demanding all who run for President must prove it and in court if need be, and if found to have run illegally you get a mandatory 10 years in Federal prison no exceptions and Presidents can never declare a Presidential pardon for any crime committed by anyone in the administration of the President charged with any crime, or misdemeanor, including removed Presidents.

But none of that's not going to happen either, because it's too close to justice.
 

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"The debate over the prosecution of Bush and waterboarding is also playing out in Congress, specifically among two New York representatives. Siding with Amnesty International, Democrat Jerrold Nadler has urged a full investigation with the potential for prosecution."


Jerrold is a real piece of work.....



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"The debate over the prosecution of Bush and waterboarding is also playing out in Congress, specifically among two New York representatives. Siding with Amnesty International, Democrat Jerrold Nadler has urged a full investigation with the potential for prosecution."


Jerrold is a real piece of work.....
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Is he trying to win the trophy for the dumbest libtard in Congress ? Ought to be able to shoot some of these complete idiots and put us out of their misery.

Patience. :)
 

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Shouldn't Bush get Amnesty?


On a serious note, while water-boarding is horrible to experience, it does not rise to the lever of torture. Torture must rise to this definition:
... any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind,...

UN Convention Against Torture
The key word is severe. In order for pain or suffering to be considered severe the effects must be lasting and/or permanent. While there are moments in which you feel like you are drowning, when the water is stopped, so does the sensation. Water-boarding may seem like torture, but it doesn't fit the definition.
 

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Amnesty International hasn't even been able to close Gitmo yet. :doh
 

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I want Amnesty International and the U.N banned from the U.S. and Obama impeached for violation of his oath of office.

A new LAW demanding all who run for President must prove it and in court if need be, and if found to have run illegally you get a mandatory 10 years in Federal prison no exceptions and Presidents can never declare a Presidential pardon for any crime committed by anyone in the administration of the President charged with any crime, or misdemeanor, including removed Presidents.

But none of that's not going to happen either, because it's too close to justice.

I don't even know how to form a good response to such blatant and hateful bigotry.
 

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I am all for water boarding. See America always takes the high road even in torture. Water boarding is not torture. SERE school was torture and I enlisted to go through it.

And any of you hypocrites want to sit here in judgement want to tell me that if your child was being held hostage and the one person whom could save their life was sitting in front of you and refuse to talk, tell me that you wouldnt consider and then follow through with doing anything within your means to get them to talk.
 

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Do they water board you till you're banging your head on the wall in solitary trying to kill yourself? :roll:
 

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Amnesty International hasn't even been able to close Gitmo yet. :doh
I thought Obama was supposed to do that last January? :confused: Maybe he should just send the last detainees to Saudi Arabia where they can get rehabilitated with finger-painting lessons. Then they can rejoin al-Qaeda in Yemen where Obama can uphold American values and due process by splattering their body parts all over the Arabian Desert with Hellfire missiles.
 

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I am all for water boarding. See America always takes the high road even in torture. Water boarding is not torture. SERE school was torture and I enlisted to go through it.

And any of you hypocrites want to sit here in judgement want to tell me that if your child was being held hostage and the one person whom could save their life was sitting in front of you and refuse to talk, tell me that you wouldnt consider and then follow through with doing anything within your means to get them to talk.
The US government executed Japanese soldiers for torture. They waterboarder US soldiers. The US viewed waterboarding as torture
 

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Do they water board you till you're banging your head on the wall in solitary trying to kill yourself? :roll:
I'm sorry, but how is this question remotely relevant for suicide bombers?
 

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McCain: Japanese Hanged For Waterboarding - CBS News

"There should be little doubt from American history that we consider that as torture otherwise we wouldn't have tried and convicted Japanese for doing that same thing to Americans," McCain said during a news conference.
It was clearly considered torture during WW2, so why the double standard now.

But as for charging Bush, unless he personally commanded it, I don't see the point.
 

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Shouldn't Bush get Amnesty?


On a serious note, while water-boarding is horrible to experience, it does not rise to the lever of torture. [...]


The key word is severe. In order for pain or suffering to be considered severe the effects must be lasting and/or permanent. While there are moments in which you feel like you are drowning, when the water is stopped, so does the sensation. Water-boarding may seem like torture, but it doesn't fit the definition.
What about the obvious possibility of permanent psychological damage?
 

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The US government executed Japanese soldiers for torture. They waterboarder US soldiers. The US viewed waterboarding as torture
So you are saying you would allow your child to die without trying to the any info out of the person that knew to save them?
 

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Do they water board you till you're banging your head on the wall in solitary trying to kill yourself? :roll:
Who is doing that?
 

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I thought Obama was supposed to do that last January? :confused: Maybe he should just send the last detainees to Saudi Arabia where they can get rehabilitated with finger-painting lessons. Then they can rejoin al-Qaeda in Yemen where Obama can uphold American values and due process by splattering their body parts all over the Arabian Desert with Hellfire missiles.
You're rather violent aren't you? :lol:
 

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McCain: Japanese Hanged For Waterboarding - CBS News



It was clearly considered torture during WW2, so why the double standard now.

But as for charging Bush, unless he personally commanded it, I don't see the point.
They were hanged for torture, like bamboo shoots in finger nails, cutting people, beheading not water boarding. If water boarding is torture, then why do we train our troops to endure it?

How about this, why dont we ask McCain if he would have rather been water boarded or beaten like he was. How much you want to bet he would rather water boarded where it all mental instead of physically being beaten next to death.

Wonder why you two are so quick to condemn others for water boarding yet will not answer my question about if you child was being held weather or not if you would torture to save their life or allow them to perish just because you are scared of violating a terrorist rights.
 
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