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America's NINE new political tribes: US voters are made up of groups including the 'Outsider Left', 'Establishment Liberals', 'Committed Conservatives

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America's NINE political tribes, according to Pew Research

A report released by the Pew Research Center has segmented U.S. voters into nine political tribes - four that lean left, four that lean right, and the 'stressed sideliners.'
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America's NINE new political tribes: US voters are made up of groups including the 'Outsider Left', 'Establishment Liberals', 'Committed Conservatives' and the 'Ambivalent Right', research reveals"​


(the title is exact as the field would allow. )

I seem to be missing where it says "far right"

it is an interesting set of distinctions. it has been obvious that the two main parties have been fracturing for years. I wonder what politics will be like when that happens?
 
Nomad4Ever said:
The parties have always been broad coalitions of different sub groups. This isn't new.
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Yes but wouldn't it be grand to have those distinctions and see which coalitions of which groups are dominant? Voters could then actually matter. Instead of holding your nose and voting for the least worst option, you'd be voting based upon actual issues that matter, to YOU. If a coalition of sub groups were identified, and the voters knew which groups they were voting for, I think that is actually a wonderful ideal.
 
Cope said:
Yes but wouldn't it be grand to have those distinctions and see which coalitions of which groups are dominant? Voters could then actually matter. Instead of holding your nose and voting for the least worst option, you'd be voting based upon actual issues that matter, to YOU. If a coalition of sub groups were identified, and the voters knew which groups they were voting for, I think that is actually a wonderful ideal.
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I agree, I was only pointing out the existence of these groups isn't new.
 
tanj said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

America's NINE political tribes, according to Pew Research

A report released by the Pew Research Center has segmented U.S. voters into nine political tribes - four that lean left, four that lean right, and the 'stressed sideliners.'
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

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America's NINE new political tribes: US voters are made up of groups including the 'Outsider Left', 'Establishment Liberals', 'Committed Conservatives' and the 'Ambivalent Right', research reveals"​


(the title is exact as the field would allow. )

I seem to be missing where it says "far right"

it is an interesting set of distinctions. it has been obvious that the two main parties have been fracturing for years. I wonder what politics will be like when that happens?
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I don't fit into any of those groups
 
gdgyva said:
likewise

i think they screwed this royally
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Well they tried to distill politics down to left/right, so a lot is going to be lost with a reduction like that.
 
I think it's very poor and laced with preconceptions.

It labelled me as "Ambivalent Right". There's nothing "ambivalent" about my political views. They don't fit neatly into "left" or "right" pigeonholes, but they are based on defined principles that I hold to consistently.
 
CaughtInThe said:
well, people in this thread will say they aren't in any of those groups so...
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Are the Democratic mainstays supposed to be the ones with moderate views about government from the liberal perspective? If so, that doesn't bode well for 'moderate'.
Would those be the establishment Democrats?

Again, I wouldn't define many 'established Democrats' as moderate. Moderate to the progressives? Sure. Moderate as in middle of the road, centrists? Not a chance.
 
not everyone fits neatly into these nice little boxes

we are round pegs and dont fit nicely into square boxes everyone wants you to fit into

most of us have leanings from both sides.....even though we may favor one side or another

kinda hate crap like like that....almost like trying to make kids fit into what society wants not who they are
 
Cope said:
Yes but wouldn't it be grand to have those distinctions and see which coalitions of which groups are dominant? Voters could then actually matter. Instead of holding your nose and voting for the least worst option, you'd be voting based upon actual issues that matter, to YOU. If a coalition of sub groups were identified, and the voters knew which groups they were voting for, I think that is actually a wonderful ideal.
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If American voters actually voted on what matters to them, we wouldn't need the distinctions.
 
So Republicans and Democrats only agree that they agree on nothing, and within each party are additional factions.

Partisan division and rancor all around.
 
Term limits for every politician could make for a much more representative Legislative body. And probably a much more functional government. Enough of these career politicians. If you ask me, they're the problem you see all these "factions", etc.

Americans vote. The elected serve X years in government representing their constituents. Then they go home to their communities and go on with their lives.

You'd likely see much less nonsense, much less in-fighting and much more reasonable government from the bottom up if we could implement term limits on ALL politicians - from your local school board and dog catcher, to those sitting in DC.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
Well they tried to distill politics down to left/right, so a lot is going to be lost with a reduction like that.
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Yes, indeed.
BirdinHand said:
Term limits for every politician could make for a much more representative Legislative body. And probably a much more functional government. Enough of these career politicians. If you ask me, they're the problem you see all these "factions", etc.

Americans vote. The elected serve X years in government representing their constituents. Then they go home to their communities and go on with their lives.

You'd likely see much less nonsense, much less in-fighting and much more reasonable government from the bottom up if we could implement term limits on ALL politicians - from your local school board and dog catcher, to those sitting in DC.
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Not to mention that they would not need to kowtow to money sources for their re-election funds.
 
gdgyva said:
not everyone fits neatly into these nice little boxes

we are round pegs and dont fit nicely into square boxes everyone wants you to fit into

most of us have leanings from both sides.....even though we may favor one side or another

kinda hate crap like like that....almost like trying to make kids fit into what society wants not who they are
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Even viewing an issue as being attached to a 'side' is a mistake. For example, gun rights. Is it a left or right issue? Well, if you look at US politics it seems like it is, but if you go past the surface stuff not so much. There are groups like the Socialist Rifle Association.

Socialist Rifle Association

The Socialist Rifle Association's mission is to uphold the right of the working class to keep and bear arms and maintain the skills necessary for self and community defense.
socialistra.org socialistra.org

I don't think people are a mix of left and right issues, because I don't think you can fit issues into a left/right paradigm.

I think people general do have a 'side' or at least a semi-coherent underlying ideology they use to view the world, I just don't think you can flatten that down to left/right.
 
BirdinHand said:
Term limits for every politician could make for a much more representative Legislative body. And probably a much more functional government. Enough of these career politicians. If you ask me, they're the problem you see all these "factions", etc.

Americans vote. The elected serve X years in government representing their constituents. Then they go home to their communities and go on with their lives.

You'd likely see much less nonsense, much less in-fighting and much more reasonable government from the bottom up if we could implement term limits on ALL politicians - from your local school board and dog catcher, to those sitting in DC.
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I like it. It might have the ancillary benefit of mitigating the effects of both dark money and gerrymandering.
 
tanj said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

America's NINE political tribes, according to Pew Research

A report released by the Pew Research Center has segmented U.S. voters into nine political tribes - four that lean left, four that lean right, and the 'stressed sideliners.'
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

uncropped title: "

America's NINE new political tribes: US voters are made up of groups including the 'Outsider Left', 'Establishment Liberals', 'Committed Conservatives' and the 'Ambivalent Right', research reveals"​


(the title is exact as the field would allow. )

I seem to be missing where it says "far right"

it is an interesting set of distinctions. it has been obvious that the two main parties have been fracturing for years. I wonder what politics will be like when that happens?
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This is actually part of their typology report which is redone every 3-4 years.
 
Cope said:
How exactly would they do that on a national scale, given only the two options?
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There are not only two options. There are two major parties (which exist nowhere in the Constitution and which President Washington warned us about in his Farewell Address).
 
mrjurrs said:
There are not only two options. There are two major parties (which exist nowhere in the Constitution and which President Washington warned us about in his Farewell Address).
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Sure, and what relevance does that hold? Are you attempting to argue that a vote for a third party is viable?
 
Cope said:
Sure, and what relevance does that hold? Are you attempting to argue that a vote for a third party is viable?
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No, I'm arguing that people do not vote in their own self interest. That they vote party. I'm pragmatic, I vote D because they are the party that most closely aligns with my beliefs and has a chance to make political decisions. They are not close to what I would actually like to see our government be.
 
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